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I honestly can't take these fvcking a$$holes and it annoys me that they represent our fan base. I mean, give it the fvck up already. The 'man-children' name you mentioned is appropriate- these are grown adults acting like 10-year olds.

Once again, if EVERYONE is missing your points, maybe that says something. You've yet to show an example of someone saying zach or kovy were great until they left, and then hating them when they were gone. You just claim to remember it, and that somehow means everyone else is "blind or butthurt". Other than people saying negatives when caught up in the moment of them leaving, most people have been pretty realistic about them both. Now, I'm sure i missed your elusive point again, but maybe you can find an example other than "people liked zach and kovy and now they don't "

We're not going to be 82-0-0 now! This team is a failure! FIRE DEBOER!

I want to have Severson's babies.