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2011 NFL Thread

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Heap is a walking injury, and "clutch" is nifty, but the dude runs a 40 like I walk one....not like Mason's a walking Super Bowl ring factory anyway......hell Michael Lombardi just called them the slowest offense he's ever seen on the field in years (least the receiving corps)

You give me grief for calling them a pop-gun offense, but those WR are embarrassing, seriously.......

No way, dude. Didn't someone claim they were the best in NFL history? :P

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Heap is a walking injury, and "clutch" is nifty, but the dude runs a 40 like I walk one....not like Mason's a walking Super Bowl ring factory anyway......hell Michael Lombardi just called them the slowest offense he's ever seen on the field in years (least the receiving corps)

You give me grief for calling them a pop-gun offense, but those WR are embarrassing, seriously.......

Well I guess NFL defenders are slower than you as Heap had 15 yards per catch last year, 30 1st downs and 5 TD's.

He is a big game player as he lead all TE's in yardage, yards per game and first downs in last year's playoffs.

Last year was the first year since his injured 2007 that Mason didn't have 1,000 yards receiving only because we had another threat in Boldin taking his yardage.

We are a run first offense so we are never going to have "big" numbers.

No way, dude. Didn't someone claim they were the best in NFL history? :P

Not that I know of.

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Well sounds like McNabb's going to the Vikings for a 6th rounder this year and a conditional 6th rounder the following year depending on performance. Damn, that's hideous for what was once considered to be a borderline HOF'er :lol:

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Well sounds like McNabb's going to the Vikings for a 6th rounder this year and a conditional 6th rounder the following year depending on performance. Damn, that's hideous for what was once considered to be a borderline HOF'er :lol:

I think he will return to his status as one of the top QB's in Minny. I think his season in Washington was an aberration due to the lack of support he had there on and off the field.

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Well I guess NFL defenders are slower than you as Heap had 15 yards per catch last year, 30 1st downs and 5 TD's.

He is a big game player as he lead all TE's in yardage, yards per game and first downs in last year's playoffs.

Last year was the first year since his injured 2007 that Mason didn't have 1,000 yards receiving only because we had another threat in Boldin taking his yardage.

We are a run first offense so we are never going to have "big" numbers.

I don't know how any of those number have ANY bearing on the fact that the Ravens have the slowest and most prodding WR corps in the NFL (2.2 YAC for Mason in 2010), and Todd Heap's been on the injury report for like 3 years straight now.....seriously.......but hey keep pumping out the same team that never beats the Steelers when it counts B )

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I don't know how any of those number have ANY bearing on the fact that the Ravens have the slowest and most prodding WR corps in the NFL (2.2 YAC for Mason in 2010), and Todd Heap's been on the injury report for like 3 years straight now.....seriously.......but hey keep pumping out the same team that never beats the Steelers when it counts B )

Mason is a possession receiver and typically just gets us first downs. Their is a huge difference between speed and separation from defenders. Speed is meaningless if you can't get open, so on that note our numbers speak for themselves.

You are correct about one thing, we can't seem to beat the Steelers when it counts, especially in the last seconds of a game. This will change.

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Jets re-signed Holmes, 5 years $50 mil- $24 mil guaranteed. Good signing for them unfortunately.

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Schefter reports the Dolphins and Broncos are in very serious trade talks regarding Orton

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Jets re-signed Holmes, 5 years $50 mil- $24 mil guaranteed. Good signing for them unfortunately.

Wow. So does this empty the coffers for Edwards and Cromartie?

Schefter reports the Dolphins and Broncos are in very serious trade talks regarding Orton

Why? I think this trade actually damages both teams.

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Why? I think this trade actually damages both teams.

It makes sense. Henne didn't do much to win the starting job outright last year, Orton would definitely be an upgrade, and it's clear in Denver that the Tebow era is about to begin.

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It makes sense. Henne didn't do much to win the starting job outright last year, Orton would definitely be an upgrade, and it's clear in Denver that the Tebow era is about to begin.

Bingo. Plus Orton had a good relationship with Marshall in Denver. This would immediately make us a better team. I do it for a 3rd, but no more.

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It makes sense. Henne didn't do much to win the starting job outright last year, Orton would definitely be an upgrade, and it's clear in Denver that the Tebow era is about to begin.

But Henne is still learning and this undercuts his development and I think Tebow is interesting, I don't know if he the type of QB that can play a full season.

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Per Schefter, Washington trades Haynesworth to NEW ENGLAND for a fifth-rounder :o

And not even next year's fifth-rounder, a 2013 fifth :P

Also the Saints agree to trade Bush to the Dolphins, pending the Dolphins getting him to restructure his deal.

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..the Saints agree to trade Reggie Bush to the Dolphins, pending the Dolphins getting him to restructure his deal.

This reeks of the resurrection of the wildcat in Miami.

Bush can make things happen with his legs, that make defenders look like fools. (when he's on) And most of all, he's a winner.

Not happy about this one.

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Poor Clown, between having the Patriots and the Jets engaged in a Sox-Yankees type arms race, along with the Dolphins possibly adding Orton and Bush to Marshall and a good young defense, the Bills really got no chance the next couple years :lol:

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This reeks of the resurrection of the wildcat in Miami.

Bush can make things happen with his legs, that make defenders look like fools. (when he's on) And most of all, he's a winner.

Not happy about this one.

The other thing Beez is that Bush also can be a dynamic punt and kick returner, which we also sorely need. I like the move. Bush is a playmaker, and we don't have enough of those.

Poor Clown, between having the Patriots and the Jets engaged in a Sox-Yankees type arms race, along with the Dolphins possibly adding Orton and Bush to Marshall and a good young defense, the Bills really got no chance the next couple years :lol:

What are you talking about bro? They signed Tyler Thigpen! :P

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The other thing Beez is that Bush also can be a dynamic punt and kick returner, which we also sorely need. I like the move. Bush is a playmaker, and we don't have enough of those.

And you guys did do kinda good with the last New Orleans RB who's career they tried to breathe life back into....

If the guy they drafted in the 2nd round becomes good, then you're pretty set at RB I'd think (though 99% of these guys are interchangeable now)

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Bush to Miami is a move I like a lot. Now that I'm in Miami during football season, I was pretty much a season ticket holder last year and plan on it again this year, so I've become a pretty big fan, adding Busch and Orton without any serious subtractions (Ricky and Ronnie will be easily replaced) give that team some pretty solid stability. Orton to Marshall should be deadly, Dansby anchors one of the up and coming defenses in the NFL... there's a lot to like in the 305 right now.

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And you guys did do kinda good with the last New Orleans RB who's career they tried to breathe life back into....

If the guy they drafted in the 2nd round becomes good, then you're pretty set at RB I'd think (though 99% of these guys are interchangeable now)

Yeah, that Ricky guy worked out ok in the end. :P Now we just need to finish off this Orton trade and we should be ready to go to battle.

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Did anyone mention that the Pats picked up Albert Hainsworth today?

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Mason is a possession receiver and typically just gets us first downs. Their is a huge difference between speed and separation from defenders. Speed is meaningless if you can't get open, so on that note our numbers speak for themselves.

You are correct about one thing, we can't seem to beat the Steelers when it counts, especially in the last seconds of a game. This will change.

This will not change as long as Dick LeBeau is calling the defense in Pittsburgh. From my perspective, Baltimore is in deep trouble. Heap is all Flacco had last year in the playoffs. Mason is old and slow and they lost/will lose Housmandzedah and Stallworth to free agency. Torrey Smith isn't ready to rise to elite status as a rookie as this lockout will hurt his progression. Pittsburgh's defense is better than Baltimore's defense. Yes, I'm biased, but both defenses are old but Pittsburgh does it better and is preparing to get younger. I think Baltimore has at least 3 more years of playoff disappointment until they can reach the Super Bowl.

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Did anyone mention that the Pats picked up Albert Hainsworth today?

I seethed at that one a few posts back :P

Bush to Miami is a move I like a lot. Now that I'm in Miami during football season, I was pretty much a season ticket holder last year and plan on it again this year, so I've become a pretty big fan, adding Busch and Orton without any serious subtractions (Ricky and Ronnie will be easily replaced) give that team some pretty solid stability. Orton to Marshall should be deadly, Dansby anchors one of the up and coming defenses in the NFL... there's a lot to like in the 305 right now.

Did they officially trade for Orton yet? I'm hoping they back off that deal and sign Vince Young now that he's cut :evil:

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Reggie Bush is a special teams threat and a receiver out of the backfield, he won't be able to run between the tackles against teams like the Jets and Patriots

Brad Smith to Buffalo...where he will likely be misused

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I seethed at that one a few posts back :P

Did they officially trade for Orton yet? I'm hoping they back off that deal and sign Vince Young now that he's cut :evil:

not quite yet, he's still practicing with Denver

It would be a definite upgrade over Henne...but Orton is not setting the world on fire or getting Miami over the hump. He's definitely not as mistake prone as Henne. Their upside is 8-8 or so.

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This will not change as long as Dick LeBeau is calling the defense in Pittsburgh. From my perspective, Baltimore is in deep trouble. Heap is all Flacco had last year in the playoffs. Mason is old and slow and they lost/will lose Housmandzedah and Stallworth to free agency. Torrey Smith isn't ready to rise to elite status as a rookie as this lockout will hurt his progression. Pittsburgh's defense is better than Baltimore's defense. Yes, I'm biased, but both defenses are old but Pittsburgh does it better and is preparing to get younger. I think Baltimore has at least 3 more years of playoff disappointment until they can reach the Super Bowl.

No disrespect to LeBeau because he is an awesome coach, but we can beat LeBeau's defense when we need to.

It is the last minute nonsense that WE need to stop. The last three years we always seem to give the game away in the closing seconds to to Big Ben.

I agree we are in deep trouble unless we re-sign Heap and Mason. I agree with your assessment on Smith. But Flacco came to camp with a chip on his shoulder and I like the swagger he has this year. We need that.

As for Pittsburgh D vs our D. Maybe I have some bias, but I think we are better than Pittsburgh overall. Our corners and Ed Reed are all healthy for the first time in a few years, Kindle I hope is healthy enough to play this year.

I do agree with you that Pittsburgh is and always will be the standard bearer for preparing younger Defensive players.

In many ways, Baltimore is built after the Steeler Template. Tons, and Tons of respect for the Steelers organization....UNTIL GAME DAY.

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