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GDT: Rangers vs. Devils

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Re: Rangers fans invading our building. That sh!t's been going on since Day 1. Last night was nothing new. The only reason last night might've seemed a little worse to some is because the Rangers are looking like they could be a legitimate contender this year plus the national exposure they're getting from the 24/7 program. Their fans are all cocky right now, so it stings more when they beat us in our own building. It sucks, but if you're a real Devils fan you deal with it. All the more better it will be when we start beating their asses again. ... When that's going to be, who knows. But these are the times when the Devils players need to know they're fans still have their backs and are not staying home and letting those Rangers scum fill our seats.I'll ALWAYS go to these games, no matter how bad it is sometimes. It WILL get better. We saw it in the late 1990s/early 2000s. Rangers fans weren't saying Jack in our building back then.

Between Stubhub, EBay, and the team ticketexchanges it is very easy for opposing fans to get tickets. When the Habs and Leafs come to MSG, they probably have 5,000 fans in the building. Same for the Flyers, Devils, Islanders, Red Wings, and now Penguins.

I had tickets to last night's game but sold them to a guy with whom I ref because I have something to do tonight and going to the games Thursday and Friday. Bought the other 2 Rangers-Devils games from a Devils season ticket holder with whom I ref football. Difference is, when I do get tickets from a season ticket holder, I turn the obnoxiousness off. When I get a complaint from someone who sits with me at MSG about someone who was using my tickets, that person gets cut-off from me. Rangers fan or not. I try to be respectful of my friends sectionmates.

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It doesn't take very many people (like loud, drunk, and obnoxious New Yorkers) to make it seem like the away teams fans outnumber the home team in an arena.

New Yorkers like to rag on New Jersy folk. New Jersey folk like to complain about New Yorkers. Reality is, they are all the f'n same. My personal favorite is the NJ people making fun of SI and LI, the LI people making fun of SI and NJ, and the SI people making fun of LI and NJ. I always want to say, "STUPID, YOU ARE EXACTLY THE SAME!"

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Ok..

1) The Devils dominated the Rangers for about 7 years in the late 90's early 2000's. Hockey runs in cycles. The tables were bound to turn. For all we know, in 5 years the Devils will dominate the Rangers again for a while.

2) Brodeur is in the twilight of a great career. Every single athlete slows down at the end. If people feel the need to crap on him as he closes out his career, I guess that's their right. He came into this season with every intention of building on the second half of last year. He has notoriously been a slow starter his whole career but this year he is clearly having problems finding a rhythm. He isn't having a good year, he's definitely hurt (he said himself the shoulder will never be 100%), and Deboer is trying to let him play out of it. Marty said he won't need to be told when it's time to hang them up, so he knows the time is near. You can either enjoy the last few months of an absolute living legend, or you can call him terrible and wish him failure.

3) Moose would have needed a shutout to win that game last night. The offense couldn't capitalize on a lot of chances. I don't know why people are so sure that Moose could have done that. He's a good goalie, but he is 38 and has never been able to carry the starter's role on a team. It's more than likely after 10 straight games people will just be complaining about him, too. Moose has let in his share of softies(Boston, Winnipeg). The real issue is the defense in front of the goalies. Moose is just used to that chaos. He played for some bad Pittsburgh and Vancouver teams, and then backed the friggin' Thrashers.

4) To whoever it was who said that Marty should retire so Kinkaid can back up Moose, I'm glad you don't work for the Devils. Kinkaid has exactly zero NHL experience, is currently being outplayed by Frazee in Albany and has a 3.00 GAA and .900 save % at the moment. I like him too and I see potential, but let's not go crazy.

5) The Rangers are a good team. Throw whatever stats you want at us, but they win like the Devils used to. Good goaltending, opportunistic goal scoring, patience and counter-attack. The Devils still haven't settled into their new system just yet.

6) Final point.... this loss in NO WAY erases the fact the Devils are playing better. The had won 4 straight before last night, and have won 6 of the last 8.

1) Yeah, true...fun while that lasted, but no way that was going to go on forever.

2) He hasn't always been a slow starter, though I do remember some slow ones here and there. I said it in another thread...I can handle that he's not what he was, and what he is right now doesn't diminish anything he did before. I just don't ever want it to get ugly or to feel sad watching him. Right now it's admittedly tough to enjoy watching him, though he has had some old-style Marty saves here and there.

3) In the grand scheme of things, I don't know how much of a difference Moose could've had made...the Devils clearly have a lot of trouble getting pucks past Lundqvist, and that's not only anything new, but has nothing to do with the goaltender (our goaltender, anyway). I think what it comes down to is that we have one goalie putting up numbers that are decent in this era, and one putting up numbers that were decent in 1988. Moose isn't perfect and definitely isn't going down as some kind of great, but he's better right now...not by leaps and bounds, but better enough to get the higher percentage of playing time.

4) Agreed, what a joke that was. But sadly some "fans" are going to post nonsense like that.

5) Guess it depends who you listen to. The sabermetricians will tell you no, they're playing over their heads, while others who see their record and goal differential will tell you otherwise. I have to admit, I've been so focused on the what the Devils are doing I'm not paying much attention to the Rangers these days.

6) This is why I'm not overreacting to this one. I think the fact that it was the Rangers is making it harder for some, and I hate everything about the Rangers, but overall I thought the Devils played pretty well against them, regardless of what the score said. I guess I'm just not in sh!t-fit-throwing mode today.

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New Yorkers like to rag on New Jersy folk. New Jersey folk like to complain about New Yorkers. Reality is, they are all the f'n same. My personal favorite is the NJ people making fun of SI and LI, the LI people making fun of SI and NJ, and the SI people making fun of LI and NJ. I always want to say, "STUPID, YOU ARE EXACTLY THE SAME!"

I hate to tell you this, but we are NOT the same. I know how to pronounce the English language correctly, especially words that end in er. I know that it should be a crime to drive less than 80 mph in the left lane of a major NJ highway, especially in the spring/summer/fall. I know that 90% of the "characters" on Jersey Shore come from NY. I know what a Wawa is (for my South Jersey friends). I know that LI traffic on a Tuesday makes the GSP on a Sunday night in July look like an open highway in Montana. I know that Cornell and Columbia wish they were Princeton. I know that 80% of NYC looks like Newark, and has about the same crime rate, but New Yorkers will never admit it.

I could go on and on, but you get the point. The only reason people from NY are the same as those from NJ is because 1/2 of Staten Island is moving to places like Jackson, NJ to get out of NYC. Obviously what I said here is based strictly off of sterotypes, but we all know that most sterotypes contains a 1/2 truth.

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Seriously I just posted this on my Facebook wall so all the idiot Ranger fans would learn a thing or two. fvcking morons.

Marty...

Most regular season wins: 631

Most shutouts: 116

Most Career Saves: 28443

Most shutouts, regular season & playoffs combined: 139

Most overtime wins: 45

Most consecutive 30-win seasons: 12

Most consecutive 35-win seasons: 11

Most 40-win seasons: 8

Youngest goalie to reach 300, 400, and 500 career wins

Only goalie to reach 600 career wins

Most games played by an NHL goaltender: 1132

Most total minutes played by an NHL goaltender 66,636

Only NHL goalie to score a game-winning goal

Most career goals by a goaltender, including playoffs - 2 (tied with Ron Hextall)

Most regular season losses (reached during the 2011–12 season)

[edit]Regular season

Most wins in a single season (48, in 2006–07)

Most minutes played in a single season (4697, in 2006–07)

[edit]Playoffs

These statistics are accurate as of the end of the 2010 NHL Playoffs.

Most shutouts in a playoff (7, in 2002–03)

Most shutouts in a Stanley Cup final (3, in 2002–03; tied with Toronto Maple Leafs' Frank McCool)

2nd place: 99 Wins

3rd goaltender to win the Stanley Cup with a Game-7 shutout in 2002–03.

1st goaltender in history to have 3 shutouts in two different playoff series. (1995 against Boston in the Conference Quarterfinals, 2003 against Anaheim in the Stanley Cup final.)

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I found this exchange between Chico and Cangialosi particularly disturbing...

CHICO: "Next time the Rangers sell out MSG, we oughta drop a bomb on the building. A giant bomb. Just level the whole place. Kill everyone inside."

CANGIALOSI: "Chico...you're scaring me."

CHICO (MENACINGLY): "I'm starting to doubt your loyalty, Steve. Something you wanna share with me, ya little bitch?"

Wait this really happened? LOL Thats awesome!

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Walking out after Game 6 in '94 was truly painful, it doesn't compare to a regular season game.

This was a tough one, IMO, because of the HBO show. That show will only create even more Rag fans, young influential ones too.

I threw myself on the floor crying like a little girl when that happened. I was 10 and would probably do the same thing now that I'm 27. Although..I was at the Devils/Canes playoff loss. Game 7. Up 2-1 with 2:00 left. Yea. I was just numb. My friend cried though. That was weird. I think I just waited to get in my car alone in order to yell and stuff. I handled it well.

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NOTHING, and I mean nothing in the history of my life watching any sort of sports, has hurt more than that game (and I'm a Yankees fan who watched Boston come back from down 3 games to win that series on 2004). I was 16 at the time, and I can still remember feeling the pit in the bottom of my stomach after that loss. Being up 2-0 in the game and then having Messier single handedly destroy us made it even worse.

I was there last night. It turned brutal in the third. These Staten Island meatheads are all puffed up about about their start this year. We all know that the Rags usually fade as the season wears on, but their team is pretty good. I hate to say it, but they took the Devils model and have used it better than us over the past 10 years (it also helps that they have had much better draft picks over that time). That being said, they are not much better than the Devils. The Devils controlled most of the play, got a ton of chances but, as usually, they missed the net or the Queen stoned them. His save on Henrique was unreal and completed changed the game. Plus, not having Elias really hurt as you could see Zajac was tiring as the game went along and it made the third line much weaker.

I love Marty, but he absolutely cost us this game. Letting that puck get through his arm for the second goal was brutal, and everyone in the league knows to shoot high glove on a breakaway/2 on 1, as he always puts his right knee down and doesn't have the reaction time to get the glove up and make the save. I can live with the third goal as it was a 2 on 1, but there is no way they should have scored the second one.

As far as our fans go, its plain embarrassing. There just aren't enough true/diehard fans of this team to fill the building consistently (apparently, they only come out during jersey retirement nights and the 3rd and 4th round of the playoffs), leading to scenarios where it is easy for a Rags fan to pickup a ticket at face value. Not to mention all of the people who will sell their tickets on StubHub making a big profit over what they paid. I have no problem with anyone selling their tickets, but it just means a few more seats going to Rangers fans. The worst thing for me was seeing a couple (2 maybe 3) Rangers fans sitting in the "supporters section" last night. That is an absolute joke! If you own those tickets and sold them to anyone besides a person you knew to be a Devils fan, you should give up your tickets right now.

After the Rags scored their second goal, the teenage kid (probably 17 or 18) sitting in front of me got out his iphone and tried to record the bunch of us Devils fans sitting in the row behind. Apparently, my hand had an involuntary reaction and slapped the iphone 3 rows down the aisle completely shattering the glass front. The kid was pissed, but I told him, if he wasn't an azz, it wouldn't have happened and that I never gave him permission to film me. He cried all of the way out of the arena.

Everything you said was so right on. Very well put. Especially iPhone thing. Just perfect.

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Between Stubhub, EBay, and the team ticketexchanges it is very easy for opposing fans to get tickets. When the Habs and Leafs come to MSG, they probably have 5,000 fans in the building. Same for the Flyers, Devils, Islanders, Red Wings, and now Penguins.

I had tickets to last night's game but sold them to a guy with whom I ref because I have something to do tonight and going to the games Thursday and Friday. Bought the other 2 Rangers-Devils games from a Devils season ticket holder with whom I ref football. Difference is, when I do get tickets from a season ticket holder, I turn the obnoxiousness off. When I get a complaint from someone who sits with me at MSG about someone who was using my tickets, that person gets cut-off from me. Rangers fan or not. I try to be respectful of my friends sectionmates.

I'm not going to lie your screen name and Rangers avatar makes me a little uneasy... so excuse me if I ever say anything uncalled for towards you. You understand I'm sure.

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I threw myself on the floor crying like a little girl when that happened. I was 10 and would probably do the same thing now that I'm 27. Although..I was at the Devils/Canes playoff loss. Game 7. Up 2-1 with 2:00 left. Yea. I was just numb. My friend cried though. That was weird. I think I just waited to get in my car alone in order to yell and stuff. I handled it well.

Ugh. With all the mentions of miserable games attended, I was hoping no one would bring this one up. 80 seconds from hell.

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I hate to tell you this, but we are NOT the same. I know how to pronounce the English language correctly, especially words that end in er. I know that it should be a crime to drive less than 80 mph in the left lane of a major NJ highway, especially in the spring/summer/fall. I know that 90% of the "characters" on Jersey Shore come from NY. I know what a Wawa is (for my South Jersey friends). I know that LI traffic on a Tuesday makes the GSP on a Sunday night in July look like an open highway in Montana. I know that Cornell and Columbia wish they were Princeton. I know that 80% of NYC looks like Newark, and has about the same crime rate, but New Yorkers will never admit it.

I could go on and on, but you get the point. The only reason people from NY are the same as those from NJ is because 1/2 of Staten Island is moving to places like Jackson, NJ to get out of NYC. Obviously what I said here is based strictly off of sterotypes, but we all know that most sterotypes contains a 1/2 truth.

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Ugh. With all the mentions of miserable games attended, I was hoping no one would bring this one up. 80 seconds from hell.

I nearly tipped over a garbage can in the mens room after that fvcking disaster. As it was, I punched the garbage can multiple times while yelling expletives. I wasn't the only one either.

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Ugh. With all the mentions of miserable games attended, I was hoping no one would bring this one up. 80 seconds from hell.

was at that game too. while i was just as angry with that one as 01, i walked out of there laughing because of how unbelievable it was. white and marty - blech.

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Aside from '95 Game 4 SCF and '03 SCF Game 7, the most enjoyable win I think I ever experienced was Game 6 ECF. I was friggin' drained after that one......from just watching !! :rofl:

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I just recall that that was the same night that the Rangers lost their game 7 to the Caps. Sergei Federov scored in the third to put the Caps up and I think they showed the goal at the rock didn't they? Devils fans were all crazy and totally high then boom Carolina ties it.

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was at that game too. while i was just as angry with that one as 01, i walked out of there laughing because of how unbelievable it was. white and marty - blech.

I had the exact same reaction to that Carolina game. I literally walked out laughing. I really thought we were gonna make a run that year.

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..I was at the Devils/Canes playoff loss. Game 7. Up 2-1 with 2:00 left. Yea.

if moose was in ansi salmela would have played better for him edit i mean #28 for the tie ugh whatevils

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what happened last night? chico? the team?

also im a teenager and on facebook the most annoying thing is the inmature fags who grow up in nj and were devil fans until they hit like 14 or 15 and all of sudden every devil-ranger games they are like "wow marty you suck" and "yeah ragss letss do it."

to me the worst thing about the rangers are the teenage fans from north jersey who think they are the sh!t because they live here and are rangers fans. i dont know who they are trying to be.

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Ugh. With all the mentions of miserable games attended, I was hoping no one would bring this one up. 80 seconds from hell.

I'm sorry. Just sucks. I was afraid there would be some bad luck involved when the Devils moved to Newark. Like I said earlier besides #27 going up to the rafters & Marty breaking the record there isn't much else to be discussed. And I guess the few die hard fans this team has left just expects more.

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I just recall that that was the same night that the Rangers lost their game 7 to the Caps. Sergei Federov scored in the third to put the Caps up and I think they showed the goal at the rock didn't they? Devils fans were all crazy and totally high then boom Carolina ties it.

Hahaha yea I remember that. Sad. The Rangers losing was the only thing that kept me happy until I got to my car and starting choking the steering wheel. It was in park.

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One other thing: Can someone kick the crap out of Dubinsky, please? I was hoping Clarkson could take him, but that skirmish didn't go anywhere.

Rupp-Janssen was a bust too. Maybe next time let Boulton take a crack at it instead.

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I had the exact same reaction to that Carolina game. I literally walked out laughing. I really thought we were gonna make a run that year.

We should have. If we were ever going to make another one with Marty in goal..probably should have been that year or the last time the Devils lost to Ottawa when Ottawa lost to the Ducks in the Cup. Can't remember the year but the Ducks probably would have owned us anyway.

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holy moly! foster defense on one of those goals was pitiful. :/

Yea...the fact we didn't go up 2-0 and the Rangers tied it on that play was all too familiar.

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