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Andy Greene trade options

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The Andy Greene injury has proven that we don't need him (and I've liked Greenie since his rookie campaign). Foster brings a different skill set to the table, and doesn't take that much off. We do need a RW. Tedenby doesn't look ready for the big time. Maybe he's a bust, maybe it's a sophomore slump, maybe he needs some seasoning in Albany, but he's the weakest link in the top 9. Any 2nd-3rd line RWs that we could get for Greene, straight up when Greene gets healthy?

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Frankly, the team's finances being what they are, I would be more concerned about whatever we get back resulting in fewer dollars being shelled out.

Three million is 1.5 million more than any team should be paying for Andy Greene's services.

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The Andy Greene injury has proven that we don't need him (and I've liked Greenie since his rookie campaign). Foster brings a different skill set to the table, and doesn't take that much off. We do need a RW. Tedenby doesn't look ready for the big time. Maybe he's a bust, maybe it's a sophomore slump, maybe he needs some seasoning in Albany, but he's the weakest link in the top 9. Any 2nd-3rd line RWs that we could get for Greene, straight up when Greene gets healthy?

Don't need one - package them for an upgrade on D if possible.

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Nobody will be interested in Andy Greene right now. You said it yourself in your first post: he's been injured. It's not even an option until he comes back and plays at least one game anyway, since it's against league rules to trade injured players.

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foster scares the hell out of me when he touches the puck anywhere near the net and especially behind the net. he is not comfortable with the puck in our zone. he can't get rid of it fast enough. I'd like to see greene for a few games before we deal him, he was hampered by this toe and was skating like cr@p so its not the best time to deal him in terms of value. when healthy green get the puck out from behind our net faster than any of our D-men

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Don't need one - package them for an upgrade on D if possible.

With the demand for d where it's at, I don't see an upgrade being available for that little. Maybe if we package them with a pick and a prospect, but that's too steep for me.

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With the demand for d where it's at, I don't see an upgrade being available for that little. Maybe if we package them with a pick and a prospect, but that's too steep for me.

Agreed - I merely meant that our D will need more help than our O going into the playoffs or even next season.

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Greene's a month away from returning and it's not like the Devils have unlimited depth at D - they are playing Kurtis Foster, after all. I don't see a trade possibility.

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Not sure why all the Foster hate. I think he's been OK for us so far, and he can put up points, which is in rather rare supply for a Devils defenseman. He's not nearly as bad defensively as some of you imply.

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According to the official scorers (for what that's worth), Foster is better than most other current Devil's defensemen in terms of giveaways:

http://www.nhl.com/ice/playerstats.htm?fetchKey=20122NJDDADALL&sort=giveaways&viewName=rtssPlayerStats

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Well when Greene's toe heals in a few weeks (whats taking so long) and we dont trade him, who sits??? Foster?

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I think the question should be what does our D look like with a healthy Andy Greene? I'm guessing we dress 7 D with Greene taking Fosters regular spot and Foster playing PP/SH/4th line occasionally.

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the thing is we have an "alright" defense... all of our guys are average but we dont have that stud who could lead us through the playoffs

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dressing 7 d-men isnt a bad idea, esp with our 4th line the way it is. Plus we can give some guys a rest (like Salvador) once in a while, Sal is playing good...but he's not a spring chicken, and might burn out if we use him so much. And A-train is a bit of a injury magnet.

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I think the question should be what does our D look like with a healthy Andy Greene? I'm guessing we dress 7 D with Greene taking Fosters regular spot and Foster playing PP/SH/4th line occasionally.

That's what I think (and hope, actually) will happen as well.

Besides that, I always notice how much it hurts the whole team's performance any time that pretty much any defenseman takes a penalty, has an equipment problem, or otherwise can't play for any significant amount of time. Dressing 7 defensemen would help that problem significantly.

Plus, there's the fact that it'll take Greene weeks of games (6-8 games), beyond even the weeks that he'll be rehabbing, before he's 95% - 100%. He won't be able to handle 20 minute ice time workloads for a while, no matter what happens.

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Not sure why all the Foster hate. I think he's been OK for us so far, and he can put up points, which is in rather rare supply for a Devils defenseman. He's not nearly as bad defensively as some of you imply.

He is horrendous in his own zone. He puts up points because he's on the first power play unit, a unit that's now scoring.

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He is horrendous in his own zone. He puts up points because he's on the first power play unit, a unit that's now scoring.

Which started happening when he got there. He's benefited, but IMO he's helped. Not saying he's better than Greene, but he brings something else to the table. I'd rather see him in, which makes Greene movable. Tao or Urbom can play if somebody gets hurt.

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Which started happening when he got there. He's benefited, but IMO he's helped. Not saying he's better than Greene, but he brings something else to the table. I'd rather see him in, which makes Greene movable. Tao or Urbom can play if somebody gets hurt.

Yes, he has helped. But I don't think he's good - I think Adam Larsson was horrendous. Slow decisions with the puck and a terrible shot release. Foster has a good release and tends to make quick decisions, but he's not very good at passing and makes the incorrect decision a too high % of the time.

Greene is not movable until at least the off-season - Taormina has what 25 NHL games? And Urbom fewer than that. Urbom was also not good during his callup and I don't think he can be #8 on the depth chart for a playoff team.

I actually think the team has missed Greene.

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He is horrendous in his own zone. He puts up points because he's on the first power play unit, a unit that's now scoring.

I disagree that he's "horrendous". He's not the best in the world, but he's good enough for what we ask of him, and certainly good enough to continue playing unless he regresses. And mouse pointed it out that you may have it backwards - the PP may be scoring more because of his contributions, and not vice versa.

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I disagree that he's "horrendous". He's not the best in the world, but he's good enough for what we ask of him, and certainly good enough to continue playing unless he regresses. And mouse pointed it out that you may have it backwards - the PP may be scoring more because of his contributions, and not vice versa.

Agreed.

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I disagree that he's "horrendous". He's not the best in the world, but he's good enough for what we ask of him, and certainly good enough to continue playing unless he regresses. And mouse pointed it out that you may have it backwards - the PP may be scoring more because of his contributions, and not vice versa.

I don't think I have it backwards - I think Foster is okay on the PP. He's clearly better than Larsson and Fayne. But I don't think he's very good, either.

The rest of his career tells us that he's not sufficient in his own zone. Good is not good when better is expected, etc.

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from all i can remember Foster is having a real hard time to setup Kovy's one timer... he's always passing the puck too far in front so Kovy has to adjust quickly so he's not getting the best shot he could... ive seen it happened really really really often

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He needs to prove himself before he is sent packing anywhere. Id personally rather see him in the lineup then Foster though but I guess thats just me.

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