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A2) I don't want to hear about breaks when you haven't won in the first round in five years with some of the most embarassing series losses in team history, when you have a big problem playing 60 minutes and taking other teams seriously, and when the team 'could' be radically different next year. They need to at least win a round this year. Yes, we're a mentally fragile fanbase - with reason.

B2) We still only needed one win then as opposed to two now. But yeah it was more a Marty comparison than a team comparison. Cause I remember all the posts about how Marty showed everyone after getting screwed at the end of Game 4, and then none of that mattered four days later.

I'm still 50/50 as far as whether or not we can beat the Panthers. We're now tied in the series 2-2 which matches our regular season record. So there's a big unknown since we can't point to anything and say we weill win or lose.

By the same token your argument is somewhat like that too. The last time we were in the playoffs was 09-10 and it was a different squad. For example we didn't have Volchenkov, Fayne, Zidlicky and Harrold. In addition our 3rd and 4th lines were completely different than they are now. Last year's squad was closest to what we have now in it's best comparison. We didn't make the playoffs last year so we don't know what these guys are capable of in the playoffs.

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A2) I don't want to hear about breaks when you haven't won in the first round in five years with some of the most embarassing series losses in team history, when you have a big problem playing 60 minutes and taking other teams seriously, and when the team 'could' be radically different next year. They need to at least win a round this year. Yes, we're a mentally fragile fanbase - with reason.

You're going to hear about them because they are to a large degree determine how playoff series go.

B2) We still only needed one win then as opposed to two now. But yeah it was more a Marty comparison than a team comparison. Cause I remember all the posts about how Marty showed everyone after getting screwed at the end of Game 4, and then none of that mattered four days later.

You really don't understand how it could've just as easily been NJ to win that game and series. Carolina showed so much mental toughness that they haven't been back to the playoffs since 2009.

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Great game from Marty, yes, but I don't retract anything I said earlier in this thread. He still has a tendency to choke in the playoffs and just because he got a shutout tonight (and let's be honest, we would've won regardless of who was in net considering we put up 4 goals) doesn't mean he isn't going to drop the ball in Game 5 or in Round 2. Again, I'm not taking anything away from him -- I love Marty -- but I'm not eating my words yet.

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I think this thread needs to be ended with a pic of Michael DeLuise from Encino Man

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I think this thread needs to be ended with a pic of Michael DeLuise from Encino Man

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I'll see your Michael DeLuise and raise you William Zabka:

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“There are always going to be critics,” Parise said. “We have all the confidence in the world in him. After last game I’m sure there was going to be people saying whatever they want to say. We don’t care. He doesn’t care. I’ve seen it the last seven years and he’s always responded.” (source)

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And now all you doubters can shut the fvck UP..... We know you you are, and we know what you're true colors are. You're an embarrassment to real hockey fans everywhere.

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and let's be honest, we would've won regardless of who was in net considering we put up 4 goals

Umm... You're sure? Watch Game 3 again and tell me any kind of lead makes you watch the rest of the game without nerves.

What a great bounce back game from Marty! He has proven it in the past and he does it once again: he tends to rebound immediately after bad games and that's one of the qualities that made him a legendary goalie.

I know there's still a lot of hockey left to play and Brodeur has much work ahead of him as well, but let's just celebrate right now. That win was HUGE for us last night. We'll worry about Game 5 on Saturday.

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If I could wipe my ass with this thread, I would.. Reactionary threads are beyond ridiculous and, like with Manta, usually end in backtracking by a lot of folks

Oh well, we're all fans here!!! Go Devils!!

To be fair, people are overreacting to this shutout the same way they did to Marty's bad game. 2-2 series here folks, we still need to prove we can beat our issues and win 2 more games. We have the momentum now but let's not start beating ourselves again in 2 days.

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Brodeur downplayed getting the shutout record, crediting his teammates with helping him get to yet another NHL milestone.

“I’ve played a lot of games and you hope when you win games, especially in the playoffs, they’re tight games, so sometimes you need to have shutouts to win some of these games,” he said. “I’ve been fortunate to play on great teams to be able to sacrifice themselves to do shutouts and commit themselves to playing well defensively and I’m a product of that.”

Just thought i would throw this in here.

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Umm... You're sure? Watch Game 3 again and tell me any kind of lead makes you watch the rest of the game without nerves.

What a great bounce back game from Marty! He has proven it in the past and he does it once again: he tends to rebound immediately after bad games and that's one of the qualities that made him a legendary goalie.

I know there's still a lot of hockey left to play and Brodeur has much work ahead of him as well, but let's just celebrate right now. That win was HUGE for us last night. We'll worry about Game 5 on Saturday.

Yeah, Game 4 wasn't exactly a rocking chair game for Marty the way Game 3 was for Clemmensen, Marty had to make several big saves, a couple when Volch left him hanging again :rolleyes:

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If I can't post over-reactive inflammatory things on the internet then well...good day sir!

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To be fair, people are overreacting to this shutout the same way they did to Marty's bad game. 2-2 series here folks, we still need to prove we can beat our issues and win 2 more games. We have the momentum now but let's not start beating ourselves again in 2 days.

The only reason people are overreacting to the shutout is because of the MASSIVE overreaction to the game 3 loss. It's a proportional response.

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We do have to cue Brodeur haters saying that Hedberg would've not only pitched a shutout but he would've gotten one... well, i guess, he'd have to get two assists.

(I'm a Marty skeptic but not a hater - Need another performance from the D and goalie next game)

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as much as i love moose, he can't get assists like brodeur. everytime he puck handles, he scares the sh!t out of me. brodeur is the best in puck handling and still one of the best playoff goalies.

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And now all you doubters can shut the fvck UP..... We know you you are, and we know what you're true colors are. You're an embarrassment to real hockey fans everywhere.

Doubting is embarrassing? Not voicing out your opinion is embarrassing. Whether others agree or not, it's each person's opinion.

You shut up :whistling:

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Doubting is embarrassing? Not voicing out your opinion is embarrassing. Whether others agree or not, it's each person's opinion.

You shut up :whistling:

C'mon, man, the very TITLE of this thread should enrage you as a Devils fan: "Hopefully that is the last time Brodeur sees the ice as a Devil." That's not an opinion, you'll get kicked in the groin for screaming that out at The Rock.

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Yeah, Game 4 wasn't exactly a rocking chair game for Marty the way Game 3 was for Clemmensen, Marty had to make several big saves, a couple when Volch left him hanging again :rolleyes:

Game 3 was not a rocking chair game for Clemmensen, and I'd be surprised if the Panthers had more than 8 scoring chances in Game 4 - last night wasn't a particularly brilliant shutout. I do think Brodeur had to make a bunch of stops from outside the circles on players skating hard - not *easy* stops, but not difficult ones either. The Panthers did not get many chances from in close.

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We do have to cue Brodeur haters saying that Hedberg would've not only pitched a shutout but he would've gotten one... well, i guess, he'd have to get two assists.

(I'm a Marty skeptic but not a hater - Need another performance from the D and goalie next game)

I'm probably on the mellower side of that. To me, based on the last two years, Marty's performance shouldn't make him the automatic every-game starter come playoff time; unless he went into the playoffs in a major slump, he definitely gets to be the #1 guy going in, but with less leeway than previous years. That's why I was in favor of Hedberg getting Game 4...I don't think I ever would've felt that way in prior years...I would've said, "Marty's the guy, he'll bounce back, he deserves that chance." But I couldn't be happier that it worked out, especially for Marty.

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C'mon, man, the very TITLE of this thread should enrage you as a Devils fan: "Hopefully that is the last time Brodeur sees the ice as a Devil." That's not an opinion, you'll get kicked in the groin for screaming that out at The Rock.

Apparently you're the one doing all the groin-kicking. "I don't think Brodeur should play another game as a Devil"...how is that not an opinion. In any case, people were pissed at his performance (I hope you realize he gave up a couple goals on game 3). He came back strong, Devils won. In the end, no matter what anyone thinks of any particular player, we all want the same thing. So you can chill the fvck out.

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Apparently you're the one doing all the groin-kicking. "I don't think Brodeur should play another game as a Devil"...how is that not an opinion. In any case, people were pissed at his performance (I hope you realize he gave up a couple goals on game 3). He came back strong, Devils won. In the end, no matter what anyone thinks of any particular player, we all want the same thing. So you can chill the fvck out.

Hoping for the abrupt end to the legendary career of the single-handedly most famous, award-winning, record-breaking, most successful, and most respected player in the history of our 30 year old franchise is not some friendly fan forum topic up for polite discussion.

I'm going to cry on the day he announces via press conference that he's hanging his skates up, as images fill my mind of all the happiness and inspiration (to play in goal) he's given to me in my relatively short 25 years of existence. So no, I'm not going to take it lightly that someone offensively insinuates that he wishes that final day would have come yesterday. fvck him.

And no, you're not the one who made these comments, so I'm not sure why you're so gung ho in defending them. My issue's clearly not with you.

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Game 3 was not a rocking chair game for Clemmensen, and I'd be surprised if the Panthers had more than 8 scoring chances in Game 4 - last night wasn't a particularly brilliant shutout. I do think Brodeur had to make a bunch of stops from outside the circles on players skating hard - not *easy* stops, but not difficult ones either. The Panthers did not get many chances from in close.

Early on in the first he had some nice stops in tight, like that one where Flash was all alone in front.

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One of the best ways I've seen it expressed is something like this....Greatest Ever, Best ever, no one can really say this will be discussed for decades as superlatives are hard to quantify...But for Brodeur he has accomplished so much that you can take any of his stats/records and split them & the result would still be the records of two Hockey Hall-of Fame Goaltenders.

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Everyone seems to forget they made a rule up just to hinder his ability , the fvcken haters...don't get it.

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