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SterioDesign    261

Okay and he got some real bad deals as well. And Lou has gotten some very good deals by waiting, including the Langenbrunner contract. So what exactly is your point?

Edit: Also, I don't care who it is, a 15 year deal is not good.

i'd be delighted to explain once again but... i may be wrong about all of this... BUT if i was right, would you guys agree with me or your just gonna be Pro-Lou all the way closing your eyes on what im saying and deying it 'til death? cause i may be wasting my time here by some of the responses that im getting for the last few days.

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Triumph    644

i'd be delighted to explain once again but... i may be wrong about all of this... BUT if i was right, would you guys agree with me or your just gonna be Pro-Lou all the way closing your eyes on what im saying and deying it 'til death? cause i may be wasting my time here by some of the responses that im getting for the last few days.

I think negotiating in season has its ups and downs, and you seem to think that it's categorically brilliant to do so.

Also Richards deal is for 12 years, I don't know why I thought it was for 15. Same principle applies.

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Martyisth3b3st    1,247

i'd be delighted to explain once again but... i may be wrong about all of this... BUT if i was right, would you guys agree with me or your just gonna be Pro-Lou all the way closing your eyes on what im saying and deying it 'til death? cause i may be wasting my time here by some of the responses that im getting for the last few days.

Dude I used to like you as a poster but you beat that damn horse to death and you've gotten real bloody annoying.

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Daniel    374

i'd be delighted to explain once again but... i may be wrong about all of this... BUT if i was right, would you guys agree with me or your just gonna be Pro-Lou all the way closing your eyes on what im saying and deying it 'til death? cause i may be wasting my time here by some of the responses that im getting for the last few days.

I'm honestly not even clear as to what you're saying.

All I can tell you is that if Zach leaves, it'll have nothing to do with Lou opening negotiations too late. As everyone has kept trying to tell you, even your premise is false. Lou did try to work out a long-term extension a year ago. While we don't know exactly what transpired, it's obvious that a deal would only get done after the season, if at all.

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Devil Dan 56    370

i'd be delighted to explain once again but... i may be wrong about all of this... BUT if i was right, would you guys agree with me or your just gonna be Pro-Lou all the way closing your eyes on what im saying and deying it 'til death? cause i may be wasting my time here by some of the responses that im getting for the last few days.

And what we are all saying is that 1) Zach has NO REASON to sign mid season when he is due for a huge payday. and 2) Lou tried to sign him to a long term deal A YEAR AGO. He said no. What else did you want done??

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montec24    2

Devils advocate position - Zach didn't meet with his agents until the day after the Draft. The Devils played hockey until June 11th. Can't blame Lou in this case considering Zach went back home to Minnesota and Lou himself had to focus on the draft. I'd consider it a different story if the Panthers knocked the Devils out and contract talks between Zach/Lou didn't start until now.

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SterioDesign    261

I think negotiating in season has its ups and downs, and you seem to think that it's categorically brilliant to do so.

Also Richards deal is for 12 years, I don't know why I thought it was for 15. Same principle applies.

Nop thats not what im saying at all here.

My point is. It can potentially have ups. (right? those ups can be a really good thing too) But Lou will NEVER EVER AND EVER possibly benefit from those ups cause he'll never even TRY to get them. He's putting himself in a corner and in a very though spot sometimes. To me a good GM (not saying Lou is not a good GM, not saying that AT ALL) should be able to adjust to all situations to find the best way to approach each one of them, Lou is not, he's sticking to his way. its do or die at the end. There's no protective nets to save him from a fall either sometimes. So anyways MAYBE those "ups" would not be there anymore a week before free agency.

Thats my only point, Lou has a way and a very specific one to do things and he's been able to do it for a very long time and its wonderful, his track record is good and the team had success under him for yeaaaaars. So in a way we can't really complain BUT what if he would have adjust to certain situations at the right time?

It's good to stick to ur things yeah but look at Sutter and Hitchock this season, they adjusted their way and look at the results.

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SterioDesign    261

Dude I used to like you as a poster but you beat that damn horse to death and you've gotten real bloody annoying.

Bahhh no worries, i'm done talking about this anyway. All good bud

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NJDevs4978    219

Richards wasn't even a 5.7 million player this year, fwiw. Carter didn't really live up to his contract either and both were outside of the stable of good Phily forwards for the first time. I wouldn't say the Kings won the Cup in spite of them, but they were pretty highly paid role players in the playoffs.

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crashline    1

Thought about this scenario today and it gets me a little nervous thinking about it: Parise and the Devils come to an agreement. Shortly thereafter, the NHL turns it down due to our financial debt. All of a sudden, it feels like the Kovy situation all over again (although different scenarios, yes).

Deep down I feel Zach really does want to stay in NJ and I feel Lou WILL get a deal done. The thing I fear most is that a third party eff's this up for us.

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ghdi    65

Thought about this scenario today and it gets me a little nervous thinking about it: Parise and the Devils come to an agreement. Shortly thereafter, the NHL turns it down due to our financial debt. All of a sudden, it feels like the Kovy situation all over again (although different scenarios, yes).

Deep down I feel Zach really does want to stay in NJ and I feel Lou WILL get a deal done. The thing I fear most is that a third party eff's this up for us.

Nah, no chance that happens. Its likely, if not certain, that the NHL has already spoken to the Devils if financials are that much of a hindrance to getting deals done. If they come to a deal and Zach is returning, Id imagine all I's will be dotted already.

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montec24    2

Another article based on speculation that will be regarded as fact by the less informed. Assuming, of course, there isn't a source from either side leaking this information.

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ghdi    65

I don't think this is anything "ground-breaking" - however it's still worth bringing up.

From our "friends" at the NY Post:

Parise not expected to re-sign with Devils before free agency

Oh boy, good ole (N)Єverson.

Though the Devils have indicated their desire to retain Parise, it appears they have not presented any contract proposals, nor explored preliminary parameters with their star left winger, who soon may become the highest-paid free agent signing in NHL history.

In other words: "I have no idea and this what I think". He hopes.

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Martyisth3b3st    1,247

Don't worry guys, if we miss on Parise Єklund (2.3% accurate) says we've got a 25% chance of signing Nash!

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DevsMan84    605

I don't think this is anything "ground-breaking" - however it's still worth bringing up.

From our "friends" at the NY Post:

Parise not expected to re-sign with Devils before free agency

Here we go again. More overractions from Devils fans over every article the Post spits out about the Devils. The article is just stating what we already know and/or what we have already assumed. Basically this is just a re-hash of everything we know or speculating, so what is the big deal? It is obvious he is just filling space in the paper.

When he starts coming out and blatently stating that he has a source saying Parise is about to sign with X team or throw out wild rumors like Kosman about the financial situation about the Devils, then you have a right to panic at least a little bit.

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Just a comment:

I realize these contracts are slightly more confusing than most, but does talking to Zach for 4 days really offer that much more than talking to Zach for 1 day? Once FA opens most of the top players' contracts are signed within 48 hours and that's when the player and agent is negotiating with 10+ teams. The idea that if Parise doesn't sign here it will be because Lou ran out of time is preposterous. There is more than enough time to get a deal done with Parise, but Parise wants to go to FA. It's clear his agents and father support him in this plan. The problem won't be Lou didn't spend enough time negotiating.

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Mayday    13

I know everyone is really worried about Parise. Well, here is another thing that may make you just a little more nervous:

Darren Dreger ‏@DarrenDreger

Martin Brodeur very likely to test free agent market. Brodeur has hired Pat Brisson (CAA) to represent him. Bidders get ready!

:(:unsure: :unsure: :koolaid::giggle: :giggle:

sigh

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DevsMan84    605

I know everyone is really worried about Parise. Well, here is another thing that may make you just a little more nervous:

:(:unsure: :unsure: :koolaid::giggle: :giggle:

sigh

Who would sign him other than the Devils? I am not worried.

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TheMazz    41

Who would sign him other than the Devils? I am not worried.

The only other place I would EVER see him going is Montreal but even that is a stretch.

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Martyisth3b3st    1,247

Lets just wait and see what happens

Wow, that absolutely contributed to the discussion.

Haha, messing with ya. ;)

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devlman    100

Who would sign him other than the Devils? I am not worried.

Tons of teams looking to reap in the publicity and merchandise $$

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