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2012 All Purpose UFA Thread

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Goalie performance is pretty random, but it's not THAT random. There is persistence. I think you all are overstating how chaotic it can be. Cam Ward hasn't had a sv% below .915 the past 4 years, so he's a poor example imo for what you're talking about.

Quick has had a pretty great start to his career, this isn't just a Gigeure/Halak hot playoff goalie situation. This contract could easily become a mistake and I think the Kings D doesn't get enough credit for his performance this year, but I don't expect him to suddenly become a below average goaltender.

He hasn't, though. I mean, LA undercounts shots, but Quick has 1 top 10 save percentage season: this one. There really isn't much persistence.

Cam Ward's last 4 seasons - one is above average, the rest are average. That's the point. The Kings might expect Quick to be a .925 goalie going forward, but if he's a .915 goalie this deal doesn't look good at all. I think it's as good of a deal as they could hope to sign, but it's a giant risk.

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He hasn't, though. I mean, LA undercounts shots, but Quick has 1 top 10 save percentage season: this one. There really isn't much persistence.

Cam Ward's last 4 seasons - one is above average, the rest are average. That's the point. The Kings might expect Quick to be a .925 goalie going forward, but if he's a .915 goalie this deal doesn't look good at all. I think it's as good of a deal as they could hope to sign, but it's a giant risk.

"Life is risk.....Go away." (not an easy one as I'm leaving out a small part).

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I rather have Chris Mason over Steve Mason at this point. Steve's confidence is beyond repair.

Speaking of Quick however - I saw this on HF and had a good laugh:

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I meant remember Steve Mason had a phenomenal rookie season and fell off. Quick isn't certified solid gold like our #30.

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Ryan Miller didn't win a Stanley Cup with a GAA of under 1.5. He didn't even win a gold medal.

True and as a Sabres fan Miller is overpaid right now $6.25M on the books for the next 2 years)

Miller did win a Veniza however, and has had his moments. Miller is a very good goalie with elite stretches (Miller was unconscious the last 2 months of this past season, until Ehrhoff and Myers both went down and the team ran out of gas late), that is a big difference between an elite goalie who is elite almost all the time. VERY few truly elite goalies have ever existed (Brodeur, Hasek and Roy, to name 3)

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Jonathan Bernier wants a trade and the Devils are in the running.

Andy Strickland ‏@andystrickland

Next move the ‪#LAKINGS‬ will be to trade Jonathan Bernier who has asked to be moved. ‪#devils‬ ‪#Leafs‬ ‪#blackhawks‬ all possibilties

Followed up with another Strickland tweet:

Andy Strickland ‏@andystrickland

‪#LAKINGS‬ told Bernier they would look to move him once a contract with Quick was finalized

Next move the #LAKINGS will be to trade Jonathan Bernier who has asked to be moved. #devils #Leafs #blackhawks all possibilties

— Andy Strickland (@andystrickland)

June 28, 2012

Next move the #LAKINGS will be to trade Jonathan Bernier who has asked to be moved. #devils #Leafs #blackhawks all possibilties

— Andy Strickland (@andystrickland)

June 28, 2012
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Jonathan Bernier wants a trade and the Devils are in the running.

Andy Strickland ‏@andystrickland

Next move the ‪#LAKINGS‬ will be to trade Jonathan Bernier who has asked to be moved. ‪#devils‬ ‪#Leafs‬ ‪#blackhawks‬ all possibilties

Followed up with another Strickland tweet:

Andy Strickland ‏@andystrickland

‪#LAKINGS‬ told Bernier they would look to move him once a contract with Quick was finalized

Next move the #LAKINGS will be to trade Jonathan Bernier who has asked to be moved. #devils #Leafs #blackhawks all possibilties

— Andy Strickland (@andystrickland)

June 28, 2012

Next move the #LAKINGS will be to trade Jonathan Bernier who has asked to be moved. #devils #Leafs #blackhawks all possibilties

— Andy Strickland (@andystrickland)

June 28, 2012

I imagine the Leafs and Hawks are more desperate than us to acquire him. I would be surprised if the Devils interest was anything more than a quick check to see what goods would have to go to LA.

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Well I thought the Leafs are/were the front runners for Luongo. To the Devils it would make the most sense - A lot of goalies have been going for just draft picks so I don't think the Devils would need to give up anymore then that. A prospect perhaps as well.

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Well I thought the Leafs are/were the front runners for Luongo. To the Devils it would make the most sense - A lot of goalies have been going for just draft picks so I don't think the Devils would need to give up anymore then that. A prospect perhaps as well.

Urbom, Tedenby and a second. No to Merrill. Don't want to give up a first and run the risk of losing a top pick in next years draft if the season turns out to be a disaster.

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Wouldn't deal for J. Bernier - why bother. Who knows what a goalie is and if Bernier were good, he'd get the first round pick financial bump. NJ can't afford to be trading prospects just yet.

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Urbom, Tedenby and a second. No to Merrill. Don't want to give up a first and run the risk of losing a top pick in next years draft if the season turns out to be a disaster.

this is a massive overpay. i'm not gonna say forget it like tri did, but i'd give up a 2nd and a nothing prospect. i wouldn't do it for urbom straight up and i wouldn't do it for tedenby straight up. his numbers have been average at best in his NHL career - as a back up. hedberg's numbers have been better than bernier's the last two years. he's a former 1st rounder that's gotten a lot of press and perhaps he becomes something.

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Mike Gillis @ Canucks summit just announced they have agreed to new deal (in principle) with Schneider.

Looks like we know (if we didn't know already) who will be traded.

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For total sh!ts and giggles (and the fact that Єklund (2.3% accurate) got a rumor right recently.)

Hockey Buzz Єklund (2.3% accurate) ‏@Єklund (2.3% accurate)

Red wings are very in on Prust.

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Based on the fact that no one has any goddamn idea who the good goalies are, besides 2 or 3 guys. Quick could just be another Ryan Miller. Remember when everyone thought he was clearly a top goalie?

Speak for yourself dude I'll be the first to admit that Quick is just awesome

Mike Gillis @ Canucks summit just announced they have agreed to new deal (in principle) with Schneider.

Looks like we know (if we didn't know already) who will be traded.

What do u mean? Are u implying that Schneider will be?

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He means Loungo

O right yea my bad, totally agree

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O right yea my bad, totally agree

Lol sorry - should have made that clearer I suppose but yeah Lu.

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Darren Dreger ‏@DarrenDreger

Martin Brodeur very likely to test free agent market. Brodeur has hired Pat Brisson (CAA) to represent him. Bidders get ready!

mm...

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Via McKenzie

CGY agrees to terms with Lee Stempniak on a 2 year deal worth $2.5M per year.

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Bob McKenzie ‏@TSNBobMcKenzie

NYR and Martin Biron agree to a 2 year deal worth a total of $2.6M, AAV of $1.3M.

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Also per McKensie, Schultz to sign somewhere tomorrow. Got the same agent as Zach. Maybe a joint announcement?

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