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What to do if we lose Parise?

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Did not even think of that, I just want Parise to re-sign, but I would take Couture for him any day.

What would it take for Clowe and Niemi...besides a king's ransom?

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When teams target players they are paying for the player as a whole pacakge. As people in hockey and Devils players have pointed out, Zach is much more than what shows up on the score sheet. He is a fierce competitor and a leader. These intangibles cannot necessarily be measured, or priced out. I do not think that anyone in their right mind would have thought that Zach was gonna win games singlehandedly at any point...so I do not think this postseason run has revealed anything that wasn't already known. But what was shown is that Zach can lead and he will battle....

With that being said, I do not think we should pay him more than 7.5M/yr for 8 years. If the Wild wanna back up the truck and give him a 90-100M contract, I think he walks and I wouldn't blame him. It could just end up being one of those type of things; relative overpayment to get their man......

I don't disagree with anything you've written. I'm just taking a business approach towards this. Those intangibles really only matter if you win or if they help attendance. They may also only matter to one particular team as opposed to others (would his leadership abilities be that important on Detroit, Pittsburgh or Boston...etc.). Although you can argue that Zach may be the best 2 way player in hockey today (and let's not discount his shoot out ability--that alone may be worth 3-5 points per year), his individual impact on a hockey game is not at that elite level, but one step below. And because he is, teams like Minnesota saying they won't be outbid for Parise makes the move seem desperate, and that means if NJ chases they may end up overspending badly. I'm exactly where you are when it comes to contract, but for a longer period and obviously front loaded.

....and I want him back.....badly. :)

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What would it take for Clowe and Niemi...besides a king's ransom?

Probably Greene or Tally and more, but this will never happen haha.

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Did not even think of that, I just want Parise to re-sign, but I would take Couture for him any day.

Couture is untouchable.

No chance we get anyone of merit for rights.

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What if we trade his rights for 1st round picks the next 2 years to help offset the one we have to give up. And then parise resigns with us anyway on july 1st

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Couture is untouchable.

No chance we get anyone of merit for rights.

Thats what I was saying before.

I think we are either going to overpay for Parise, or we lose him for nothing, which is OK.

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What if we trade his rights for 1st round picks the next 2 years to help offset the one we have to give up. And then parise resigns with us anyway on july 1st

No team would offer us 1 first round pick, much less 2, for the chance to talk to someone.

We'd be lucky to get a 2nd and a servicable roster player for his rights. The Flyers got a third and minor league trash for Bryz's rights.

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The only way I could conceivably see Lou trading his rights is if Parise has told him that he won't re-sign under any circumstances. Since that's not going to happen, neither is this trade.

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The only way I could conceivably see Lou trading his rights is if Parise has told him that he won't re-sign under any circumstances. Since that's not going to happen, neither is this trade.

Yep, agree 100%. If Parise's rights are moved, its because Parise wants out. There is absolutely no indication whatsoever that is the case.

Any Parise "move" we hear now are from hopeful fans of other teams. Like that absolutely horrendous Colorado rumor.

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You're first problem was believing anything I-Bob says. He just throws rumors around as vague facts.

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Yep, agree 100%. If Parise's rights are moved, its because Parise wants out. There is absolutely no indication whatsoever that is the case.

Any Parise "move" we hear now are from hopeful fans of other teams. Like that absolutely horrendous Colorado rumor.

You get trash for trading someone's rights, as has been said earlier. Unless Parise says flat out he's not re-signing it's not something you do. And even if he said something like that, the return is not even worth the minute possibility that he changes his mind at the last minute.

When there's a rumor out there of trading for someone's rights, especially when it's Lou, you know the story is made up.

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You get trash for trading someone's rights, as has been said earlier. Unless Parise says flat out he's not re-signing it's not something you do. And even if he said something like that, the return is not even worth the minute possibility that he changes his mind at the last minute.

When there's a rumor out there of trading for someone's rights, especially when it's Lou, you know the story is made up.

You just repeated two of my prior posts in this thread ;) lol

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Yep, agree 100%. If Parise's rights are moved, its because Parise wants out. There is absolutely no indication whatsoever that is the case.

Any Parise "move" we hear now are from hopeful fans of other teams. Like that absolutely horrendous Colorado rumor.

The Colorado rumors were even more ridiculous for having talk that Parise already had a deal with Colorado. It's a legal impossibility.

Ah the Twitter age.

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This absolutely NEEDED its own thread.

Well, there's only 12 other Parise threads...

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I don't disagree with anything you've written. I'm just taking a business approach towards this. Those intangibles really only matter if you win or if they help attendance. They may also only matter to one particular team as opposed to others (would his leadership abilities be that important on Detroit, Pittsburgh or Boston...etc.). Although you can argue that Zach may be the best 2 way player in hockey today (and let's not discount his shoot out ability--that alone may be worth 3-5 points per year), his individual impact on a hockey game is not at that elite level, but one step below. And because he is, teams like Minnesota saying they won't be outbid for Parise makes the move seem desperate, and that means if NJ chases they may end up overspending badly. I'm exactly where you are when it comes to contract, but for a longer period and obviously front loaded.

....and I want him back.....badly. :)

I wonder what the most total money the Devils are willing to put into his contract? $60 mill? $70 mill? $80??!?

Could we possibly give him something like a 12 year $84 MILL contract? (frontloaded of course as is the norm these days)

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I wonder what the most total money the Devils are willing to put into his contract? $60 mill? $70 mill? $80??!?

Could we possibly give him something like a 12 year $84 MILL contract? (frontloaded of course as is the norm these days)

My gut says 8 years 62 million, big cap hit.

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Arnott said he would sit with Zach on Monday after the draft was done to talk about an extension or what they'll do. So nothing is going to happen before monday at least

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There was a lot of talk during the playoffs this year about team chemistry and whatnot. If Parise doesn't come back then the Devils have to look seriously as selling high on some of their guys in order to fill more pressing needs that will allow them to get back to where they were only to win this time. I'm talking about guys like Fayne, Greene, and Clarkson. We have some D coming through the pipeline and we need some help up front. Especially if we lose Parise.

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