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So, just drop the subsidy for when corn is sold for synthesis or extraction of sugars or other substances. Done. And I'm not so against the price of beef going up a bit because the feed is minimally more expensive. Red meat is too cheap, again, this causes an health issue. Red meat is ok, but not at every meal. America eats a ton of red meat, so I think if the price of beef went up 50 cents per pound, it wouldn't kill anyone. People might eat more leaner meats instead. I understand the ripple effects of what taking away that subsidy could do. I'm in favor of defunding these super corporations that run the agriculture industry right now. I'd rather have farmers deciding how to farm, not Kraft, not Monsanto, not ConAgra. It's silly that farmers can't even keep the seed of their corn because it's owned by Monsanto since it's a genetically modified seed and therefore is patented by them. Insanity. We just don't need to aid industry that would do fine on it's own.

You obviously don't live in a city.

Mcd's salads are nothing but trickery to make you think you're eating healthier. The minute you put dressing or chicken on it, you're racking up the calories and fat.

When I lived in Baltimore, you could not walk to a Wal-Mart, there was a grocery store, but I was in a decent area and even then it was the only larger store for in the area. If you go into the less than nice neighborhoods in Baltimore, there's not any grocery stores. There's tons of available fast food, some 7-11s bodegas, etc. Nothing that would carry any vegetables. These areas do exist, period.

I can't speak to Baltimore, but there have been several proposals to open up Walmarts in New York City and Chicago, and they're always voted down by city councils. In any event, Walmart is one of the biggest companies in the world. It didn't get that way by being out of the reach of vast segments of the population.

In NYC there are three Trader Joe's and Mortons supermarkets all over the place.

No one forces you to put salad dressing or chicken on your salad. Or you can buy low fat salad dressing at any grocery store for a lot less than you would get charged at McDonalds per serving.

I'm sorry, this claim healthy alternatives are not available at a price that virtually everyone can afford is crap. It's an excuse to blame someone else for people's own eating and exercise (or lack thereof) habits. It's an excuse for government busy bodies to stick their snouts ever so more into our lives.

We're biologically disposed to eat as much as our stomachs can hold and get as many calories as possible. It takes a lot of discipline to resist that, discipline that most people don't have, or at least have to varying degrees. It's human nature. To engineer us to do otherwise, through subsidies or eliminating subsidies, educational programs, PSAs, or whatever will be as successful as campaigns to get people to stop drinking, abstain from sex, watching pornography or whatever.

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I can't speak to Baltimore, but there have been several proposals to open up Walmarts in New York City and Chicago, and they're always voted down by city councils. In any event, Walmart is one of the biggest companies in the world. It didn't get that way by being out of the reach of vast segments of the population.

In NYC there are three Trader Joe's and Mortons supermarkets all over the place.

No one forces you to put salad dressing or chicken on your salad. Or you can buy low fat salad dressing at any grocery store for a lot less than you would get charged at McDonalds per serving.

I'm sorry, this claim healthy alternatives are not available at a price that virtually everyone can afford is crap. It's an excuse to blame someone else for people's own eating and exercise (or lack thereof) habits. It's an excuse for government busy bodies to stick their snouts ever so more into our lives.

We're biologically disposed to eat as much as our stomachs can hold and get as many calories as possible. It takes a lot of discipline to resist that, discipline that most people don't have, or at least have to varying degrees. It's human nature. To engineer us to do otherwise, through subsidies or eliminating subsidies, educational programs, PSAs, or whatever will be as successful as campaigns to get people to stop drinking, abstain from sex, watching pornography or whatever.

So you're saying there's a clear correlation between wealth and ability to control yourself from eating garbage? Because there was a study done on the healthiest counties in NJ. Take a guess which one topped the list....Hunterdon county, a place where the average household income is $90+k. That's no coincidence.

It's not just a matter of controlling yourself, it can also be a matter of time management. What's faster, McDonald's or cooking a healthy meal at home? Obviously McDonald's. So if you're a single parent who is struggling to get by and you work from 8am-8pm and don't get home until close 9pm, are you gonna want to take the time to drive/walk/take public transit to a grocery store and then go home and cook? Hell no. You just want to buy a pizza, chinese food, wtv that's nearby and quick. You don't have the time to get to a store, think of a meal, get what you need, drive home, cook, help change diapers, do homework, etc. So instead, you do what you can. You see what I'm getting at?

If healthy options are as cheap or cheaper than non-healthy items, chains will take notice and cut costs where they think they can. Then you might end up with a place that actually has some healthier options. Even chain restaurants like Chili's, TGI Fridays is guilty too, they all serve high calorie garbage, but they're close, convenient and offer take out. I think a big difference could be made if it was easier to make money on healthier food options.

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