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He reported that Lou wouldn't let him have access yet other teams allow their beat writers access today. His JOB is to get the story, and right now he is stuck because of Lou. Why shouldn't he be mad?

It's fine if TG wanted to say "Hey, I wish I could be in the informal practices but I'm not allowed" but then he does this:

Tom Gulitti@TGfireandice

I for the life of me wouldn't know why a fan would be satisfied with that, but if you are, that's your choice, I guess.

Tom Gulitti@TGfireandice

IF Devs are happy with their relationship with their fans, number of tickets they sell & not worried about lockout fallout, why should I be?

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That's just being a petulant baby, IMO. TG went beyond reporting and was trying to get fans to be upset. TG can be mad all he wants, but I can call him out for being as asshat and trying to create an uprising that didn't exist.

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It's fine if TG wanted to say "Hey, I wish I could be in the informal practices but I'm not allowed" but then he does this:

Tom Gulitti@TGfireandice

I for the life of me wouldn't know why a fan would be satisfied with that, but if you are, that's your choice, I guess.

Tom Gulitti@TGfireandice

IF Devs are happy with their relationship with their fans, number of tickets they sell & not worried about lockout fallout, why should I be?

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That's just being a petulant baby, IMO. TG went beyond reporting and was trying to get fans to be upset. TG can be mad all he wants, but I can call him out for being as asshat and trying to create an uprising that didn't exist.

Obviously TG is pissed but again if someone or something is preventing you from earning your paycheck, you would be too. Hard for him to take it easy when other reporters are already getting stories coming out of their teams while he is stuck there twirling his thumbs.

TG doesn't need to start an uprising for fans. Believe me there have been plenty of fans burned by the Devils over the years.

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I for one find it hilarious that Lou acts like he's working on the Manhattan project.

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https://twitter.com/JoshRimerHockey/status/288410734344421376

Josh Rimer@JoshRimerHockey

Might there be others? RT @StapeNewsday: #Isles news: L. Visnovsky has decided to stay in Slovakia for the rest of the season, via his agent

So how can Visnovsky stay in Slovakia when he's still under contract with the Islanders?

LENGTH: 5 YEAR(S) VALUE: $28,000,000 TYPE: STANDARD EXPIRY STATUS: UFA SEASON AHL SALARY

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icon_10chart-blue_help.png P. BONUSES

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icon_10chart-blue_help.png CAP HIT

icon_10chart-blue_help.png 2008-09 $7,000,000 $7,000,000 $0 — $5,600,000 2009-10 $7,000,000 $7,000,000 $0 — $5,600,000 2010-11 $6,000,000 $6,000,000 $0 — $5,600,000 2011-12 $5,000,000 $5,000,000 $0 — $5,600,000 2012-13 $3,000,000 $3,000,000 $0 — $5,600,000

http://capgeek.com/player/26

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Please don't let the Devils become a team like the Isles, Jackets or Oilers: A team no one wants to play on.

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I think he's basically forefitting his $3 million salary this year, and getting whatever he's getting in Slovakia.

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So how can Visnovsky stay in Slovakia when he's still under contract with the Islanders?

http://capgeek.com/player/26

Sucks for the Isles. I thought the IIHF would require him to return to the Isles or, if he continued playing in Slovakia, they could ban that country from future international tournaments (like the World Championships, World Jrs., and Olympics) for failing to abide by the agreement entered into between the leagues.

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Sucks for the Isles. I thought the IIHF would require him to return to the Isles or, if he continued playing in Slovakia, they could ban that country from future international tournaments (like the World Championships, World Jrs., and Olympics) for failing to abide by the agreement entered into between the leagues.

That's exactly what I'm curious about. I thought most leagues had an NHL agreement that the NHL contract supersedes all others. Also, Ovi is back already. Kovy hasn't left from what I've read and may play for SKA tomorrow.

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TG has a point about that too. How come we were able to go to practices and training camp at SMA before 2007 and now since they moved to Newark it has become like Area 51? I hear all the time of Flyers fans seeing their team practice in Voorhees all the time.

Just throwing an idea out there, but I think it would be generous if the Devils opened up part of camp to the public. I'm not asking for the whole thing but I think they could show some respect to the fans without it jeopardizing the team in any way.

As for TG, I think he's a great reporter and I don't see anything wrong with what he tweeted. This lockout had to have been hard on him. Unfortunately, he is screwed with the fans no matter what he does. If he gives an opinion and represents part of the fanbase, then the other part of the fanbase hates him, and vice versa. Poor dude can't win.

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Just throwing an idea out there, but I think it would be generous if the Devils opened up part of camp to the public. I'm not asking for the whole thing but I think they could show some respect to the fans without it jeopardizing the team in any way.

As for TG, I think he's a great reporter and I don't see anything wrong with what he tweeted. This lockout had to have been hard on him. Unfortunately, he is screwed with the fans no matter what he does. If he gives an opinion and represents part of the fanbase, then the other part of the fanbase hates him, and vice versa. Poor dude can't win.

You know the devils won't do that.

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I totally wanna play the lockout game. You'd get to bargain for the best deal, use twitter to post pics of expensive stuff, cry like a baby and stomp out of a room, AND order pizza/milk shakes. I'm in!

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Im listening to mathieu darche on RDS hes talking in details how the negociations went and that last night and everything its pretty interesting to really get the inside stories like that

He slipped and mentionned that the trade deadline shoudld be april 5th then realized he was not supposed to say that lol so we'll see

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this was retweeted by Bob McKenzie...

Kovalchuk will play today in Kazan. Some sources close to SKA say he could stay in Russia #Devils

this is starting to freak me out that we still havent heard at all from Kovy and all those rumours and how he said he'd stay in russia a few months ago

this would be a catastrophe if he does

Bob McKenzie

I've heard Kovalchuk rumors (staying in RUS?) but not able to confirm. NJD told me they "haven't heard (Kovy) isn't coming back."

So gist of all that is Kovalchuk stuff is just rumors right now. May very well turn up in NJ but many hearing he might not.

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Grossman said he'd be back, and it would be a gigantic scandal if he wasn't. He has a valid NHL contract that runs for 12 more years, and I've never heard of this guy who's being re-tweeted. I don't like the fact he's still playing for SKA though.

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Well someone needs to tell Kovy he wouldn't be allowed to play in Sochi if he skunks out on the Devils, that'll get him back fast.

I mean I don't get how they can make him walk away from $80 million from a financial sense, but it does worry me that after he didn't want to go back to Russia two years ago he's more hesitant to leave after being treated like a god for half a season.

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Isn't his family in NJ during this lockout and isn't he building a huge house in alpine? I highly doubt he will not be back for camp, but I expect him to be the last one to report

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Well someone needs to tell Kovy he wouldn't be allowed to play in Sochi if he skunks out on the Devils, that'll get him back fast.

I mean I don't get how they can make him walk away from $80 million from a financial sense, but it does worry me that after he didn't want to go back to Russia two years ago he's more hesitant to leave after being treated like a god for half a season.

Who in the world said he is hesitant? Notice even the guy who got RT'd said 'sources close to SKA' - who love the idea of someone picking the KHL over the NHL. And TSN's going to run with it because they have no real stories until camp opens.

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He'll be back, remember...."this is team."

My guess is he wants one last farewell game with his team there..

yeah im pretty sure thats it. He was captain after all he wouldnt want to just leave them behind without a fair goodbye

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this was retweeted by Bob McKenzie...

Kovalchuk will play today in Kazan. Some sources close to SKA say he could stay in Russia #Devils

this is starting to freak me out that we still havent heard at all from Kovy and all those rumours and how he said he'd stay in russia a few months ago

this would be a catastrophe if he does

Bob McKenzie

I've heard Kovalchuk rumors (staying in RUS?) but not able to confirm. NJD told me they "haven't heard (Kovy) isn't coming back."

So gist of all that is Kovalchuk stuff is just rumors right now. May very well turn up in NJ but many hearing he might not.

This would be like crossing the streams. It would be bad.

He'd be walking away from $80 million, a house in Florida and house in Alpine, not to mention not being able to return to the US since he'd no longer have a work visa.

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