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Zubie#8

Krys Barch Twitter Rant

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Uncle Lou needs a talk with Barch and his twitter account after the lockout ends (hopefully).

I sit in front of a fire, 8 OV deep and starting a bottle of Porte that will assist in the translations of my emotions into words! No different than a truck driver, farmer or line worker I have a shot and a beer. Not to deal with the days ahead but to ease the nerves from what my body has endured the days before.
I wonder if the owners of Boston, New York, Washington etc, etc, have endured any of the injuries that I or any other player in the NHL have endured. Still they probably sit there smoking the same brand of cigar, sipping the same cognac, and going on vacation to one of the five houses they own…While we sit here knowing they want to take 20% of our paychecks. One half to 3/4 of my peers will have to work for the next 50 years of their lives. Congratulations to the lucky select few that I have played with who have made salaries that they can choose to do whatever they want when they are done. But I have played most who do not!

Poor babies...

http://prohockeytalk...-at-nhl-owners/

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Man, it must be really rough for him knowing he'll have to work all his life. Why did he become a professional athlete? He should've just gone the same route as all of the fans, then he could've retired at 25 like the rest of us.

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Man, it must be really rough for him knowing he'll have to work all his life. Why did he become a professional athlete? He should've just gone the same route as all of the fans, then he could've retired at 25 like the rest of us.

He'll have to work all his life, but he'll have to retire at 35 from this career. I imagine it's quite hard to transition to anything else after this. This is a rich person's problem, of course, but most people don't take the kind of physical abuse that Barch and his ilk endure. And most of them who do don't make it to the NHL, either - they're in an even worse spot.

And this is yet another reason I don't support the players. The self entitlement is disgusting.

Barch didn't express himself well, but I think the point he wanted to make is that the way the owners are conducting things, the money they promised the players via signed contract is no longer promised. That kind of entitlement is disgusting - you're paying the same ticket price regardless of the players' salaries, and all the owners did was wring the money out of public coffers to pay for the arena which they have control over - this control gives them the ability to lock out the players.

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And this is yet another reason I don't support the players. The self entitlement is disgusting.

I don't think it's entitlement. The players signed contracts that the owners approved and now they are being told that they have to take a 20% paycut because the owners can't control their own spending. And this is after the owners got nearly everything they wanted 8 years ago. I can see the players side a lot more than I can see the owners.

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Both sides suck. Really a roll back? I mean come on that's dumb considering it will probably put some teams under the cap floor so they'll have to spend anyway. They aren't getting a roll back. And Fehr seems content to have the lockout. Wanting to threaten the Winter Classic for God knows what reason.

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I see one side...the fans, and nobody gives a sh!t about us

the players and owners should work at a local factory or car dealership for 50k a year for the rest of their lives and then revisit their thoughts.

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It sounds self entitled, but remember, these guys spend the years most of us get an education preparing for a career that ends at around 35. If we lost the ability to do our jobs at 35, it would be tough for us to survive for the rest of our lives. While players are lucky enough to make huge salaries, which gives them flexibility for a couple years, when they start to drain the savings and most of their job training is no longer useful, that's brutal. Barch didn't express himself well, but the players in every sport do suffer a unique disadvantage, even with their exorbitant salaries. I have less sympathy for American athletes, since they at least had to attend traditional schools and in theory (emphasis on theory) had the opportunity to get an education, but Canadian hockey players who came up through the youth system have it rough.

By the way, during the last lockout, I had something that resembled sympathy for the owners (though I was disgusted at both sides), since the game was in a ton of trouble financially, and they were bearing the burden. This time through, the game is in pretty good shape and, until the fvcking lockout, seemed to be getting better. IMO the owners are just getting greedy now, and the main victims (more than the players) are the fans.

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Please this is garbage. If I played for 15 years making 500k, I think I could budget and set myself up for life. That is $7.5M over a course of a career. If someone made $75,000 working 40 years (20-60) they would have made $3M. People get by making less than that as well. Cry me a river.

Even a 10 year career still nets you $5M, or a five year career nets you $2.5M. So for the rest of his life, he needs to make 500k to break even with a non professional athlete.

Freaking loser.

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I see one side...the fans, and nobody gives a sh!t about us

the players and owners should work at a local factory or car dealership for 50k a year for the rest of their lives and then revisit their thoughts.

Suppose the owner of the factory or car dealership wanted his workers to take a 20% paycut too. It sounds a lot worse than professional athletes taking a big cut like that, but someone making $25,000 a year could have the same view of them as you do towards the players. To go even further, someone barely scraping by in a poor country could say the same thing about the guy making 25k. People always compare other people's worlds to their own worlds, but put yourself in the shoes of the players, they were promised this money when they signed the contracts, and now the owners want to go back and chop 20% off and you expect them to just sit there and say okay that's fine, we make enough anyway?

And all this talk about neither side caring about the fans blah blah is just whining. I'm as upset as anyone that there is another lockout but the players and owners have a major financial stake in this that extends well beyond this season. What is at stake for us? Maybe one year of entertainment? No matter what happens, we lose nothing of value.

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Please this is garbage. If I played for 15 years making 500k, I think I could budget and set myself up for life. That is $7.5M over a course of a career. If someone made $75,000 working 40 years (20-60) they would have made $3M. People get by making less than that as well. Cry me a river.

Even a 10 year career still nets you $5M, or a five year career nets you $2.5M. So for the rest of his life, he needs to make 500k to break even with a non professional athlete.

Freaking loser.

This x1000000. If these guys have half a brain to budget their money they are set for life.

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Bottom line is that I do not want to hear anyone making over $500,000 complain about work to the fans. Its disgusting.

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And all this talk about neither side caring about the fans blah blah is just whining. I'm as upset as anyone that there is another lockout but the players and owners have a major financial stake in this that extends well beyond this season. What is at stake for us? Maybe one year of entertainment? No matter what happens, we lose nothing of value.

We could be missing 2 Stanley Cups in less then 10 years. That alone as a fan is enough for me to seriously debate never spending another dime on the NHL.

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Please this is garbage. If I played for 15 years making 500k, I think I could budget and set myself up for life. That is $7.5M over a course of a career. If someone made $75,000 working 40 years (20-60) they would have made $3M. People get by making less than that as well. Cry me a river.

Even a 10 year career still nets you $5M, or a five year career nets you $2.5M. So for the rest of his life, he needs to make 500k to break even with a non professional athlete.

Freaking loser.

^ What he said!

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Please this is garbage. If I played for 15 years making 500k, I think I could budget and set myself up for life. That is $7.5M over a course of a career. If someone made $75,000 working 40 years (20-60) they would have made $3M. People get by making less than that as well. Cry me a river.

Even a 10 year career still nets you $5M, or a five year career nets you $2.5M. So for the rest of his life, he needs to make 500k to break even with a non professional athlete.

Freaking loser.

Krys Barch is not making $7.5 million in his career. No one like that is playing 15 seasons either. He'll be lucky to play 8 years at league min. With each lockout, he has lost a year, and there is no guarantee that players like him have jobs after it. These guys usually play year-to-year deals.

And any amount you come up with, take into account taxes and a lot of other fees and expenses one has. The professional NHL career is a short one for your average player. That's why guys who take hometown discounts or take less to play for a contender don't get enough credit.

I'm not saying these guys don't have it good, but many don't have it as well as you think. The twitter world though is not the best place to open up, especially when talking about money.

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Krys Barch is not making $7.5 million in his career. No one like that is playing 15 seasons either. He'll be lucky to play 8 years at league min. With each lockout, he has lost a year, and there is no guarantee that players like him have jobs after it. These guys usually play year-to-year deals.

And any amount you come up with, take into account taxes and a lot of other fees and expenses one has. The professional NHL career is a short one for your average player. That's why guys who take hometown discounts or take less to play for a contender don't get enough credit.

I'm not saying these guys don't have it good, but many don't have it as well as you think. The twitter world though is not the best place to open up, especially when talking about money.

He made 4.3 million in the NHL so far. He should be set for life if he is not a moron. I agree that some players careers do not last long but this guy is an idiot.

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Barch has made $2,825,000 playing in the NHL since the 2008-09 season. He's schedule to make $750,000 this season and next season as well. So between that and his few years in the NHL before that and decent money playing in the AHL even before he made the NHL he is more then set for life if he so chose to be,

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He made 4.3 million in the NHL so far. He should be set for life if he is not a moron. I agree that some players careers do not last long but this guy is an idiot.

Bingo!

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And people wonder why the public 'never' sides with the players in sports labor disputes lol. I don't see anyone asking the owners to take a 20% cut unless you count revenue sharing perhaps and they're not willing to do that.

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I really think its unfair to call them losers and everything cause they could still be set for life compared to us if they would have budget their money... No one would take a 20% paycut and be happy with it, actually take 20% off anyones budget and its gonna fvck them up.

Thoses guys made it to the nhl its a big deal and they had to work super hard and make sacrifices to get there, plus its a dangerous sport any game could be their last and if your carreer is ending and that youre not prepared for thst thats an even bigger money drop for you.

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Krys Barch is not making $7.5 million in his career. No one like that is playing 15 seasons either. He'll be lucky to play 8 years at league min. With each lockout, he has lost a year, and there is no guarantee that players like him have jobs after it. These guys usually play year-to-year deals.

And any amount you come up with, take into account taxes and a lot of other fees and expenses one has. The professional NHL career is a short one for your average player. That's why guys who take hometown discounts or take less to play for a contender don't get enough credit.

I'm not saying these guys don't have it good, but many don't have it as well as you think. The twitter world though is not the best place to open up, especially when talking about money.

I do see your point, but I do not agree. We have to pay taxes too. Admittedly, I am not a tax expert. Yet according to this: https://www.calcxml.com/calculators/federal-income-tax-estimator;jsessionid=6B02182B8EDFB4C8F572BB53728812E8?skn=#calcoutput

500k equates to paying 137.3k in taxes over a year. Through 15 years it becomes $2.06M and after taxes he makes $5.4M

10 years: after taxes $3.6M

5 years: after taxes $1.8M

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For Joe Dirte making 75k a year, he pays $7,455 in taxes a year. After paying that for 40 years, the money after taxes comes out to $2.7M over his career of 40 years.

To match Joe Dirte - Barch needs to make $1M over 35 years. Or in other words, 27k a year over 35 years. He could make that being a janitor or a desk job answering phone calls

In conclusion: I have no sympathy

I really think its unfair to call them losers and everything cause they could still be set for life compared to us if they would have budget their money... No one would take a 20% paycut and be happy with it, actually take 20% off anyones budget and its gonna fvck them up.

Thoses guys made it to the nhl its a big deal and they had to work super hard and make sacrifices to get there, plus its a dangerous sport any game could be their last and if your carreer is ending and that youre not prepared for thst thats an even bigger money drop for you.

Sucks for them, almost all had a chance for a free education. If they took it, no reason they can't pursue a career like the rest of us. If they didn't, sucks for them

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I don't have much sympathy for the players... but owners are full of crap this time around. They know we're all coming back like a bunch of suckers so they're just going to sit out and wait for the players to cave. They have full time jobs where they make tons of money. The players are millionaires but their still out of work and eventually that will force them to give-in.

The owners are greedy... They want some kind of socialist hockey empire where they all live happily and make wads of cash no matter how crappy a job they do managing their team's and their teams finances. The players are freelancers who offer a service... If you can't afford to pay for that service... then don't. Find someone else to do it cheaper or go without.... That's what everyone else on the planet does... When I go to the store and can't afford to buy the best TV... I don't get the government to shut down the store and force the company to lower its price... I but a cheaper TV.

This is called a free market and the owners have made billions in this system through whatever company they own. Now that its inconvenient for them they want to change it... Stop spending money you don't have on players you can't afford.

And the fans are not victims either. Hockey will be back soon. You will be fine.

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Bottom line is that I do not want to hear anyone making over $500,000 complain about work to the fans. Its disgusting.

So do you expect him to just be happy about the owners who offered these contracts to now want to go back and on them and slice 20% off? Anyone in that position is going to be pissed about that much of a bait-and-switch regardless of how much they make.

Why should they have to be the ones to bail out the league for putting and keeping teams in unprofitable locations? Why can't there be more revenue sharing between teams? We have these billionaire owners raking in big bucks every year but people are pointing their fingers at the players for being upset about the owners wanting to chop off a huge chunk of the contracts that the owners already offered, agreed to, and signed. Why is it popular to criticize the players for being rich and greedy while excusing the owners? Are the players even asking for anything more than the status quo? From what I have read it seems like the owners are the ones trying to get more money out of this CBA, why are they not being criticized more? Maybe because their gaudy incomes aren't publicized.

We could be missing 2 Stanley Cups in less then 10 years. That alone as a fan is enough for me to seriously debate never spending another dime on the NHL.

Fair enough but still, we aren't losing anything of real tangible value. It really sucks we could be missing out on another season, but we have no financial stake in this like the players and owners do.

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