NJDevs4978 Posted April 10, 2013 Share Posted April 10, 2013 The captain issue has 'nothing' to do with anything, the guy who screwed him out of the C is long gone. I wouldn't put it past Elias to leave, especially since he had one foot inside the Garden last time, but the good news is they don't have Czech nation over there this time. And a big part of their trading Gaborik was they flat needed the cap space, they didn't have a lot of big-salaried players in '06 other than Jagr. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NewarkDevil5 Posted April 10, 2013 Share Posted April 10, 2013 Y'know I wonder if we're at the point where the Islanders were in 1992 after missing the playoffs and firing Bill Torrey. I think that was a huge mistake for them and they've been paying for it ever since. Don't underestimate a guy like Lou and what he means to an organization like this. He is our Bill Torrey and in an era of more teams and more unpredictable draft positions he has almost as many Stanley Cups. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ATLL765 Posted April 10, 2013 Share Posted April 10, 2013 (edited) I think you're the only person who doesn't like JJ Abrams You being serious? His body of work is pure trash. Or do I live under a rock and I just have no idea what other people think? It could be the last one, still doesn't change that he's terrible though. Edited April 10, 2013 by ATLL765 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
slasher72 Posted April 10, 2013 Share Posted April 10, 2013 Lou is a stubborn miser. What else is new? Let Elias sign with the Sharks. That way he can end his career playing with his bud Havlat. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Muevelos Posted April 10, 2013 Share Posted April 10, 2013 He is the devils. He coulda left to the rangers who offered more but wanted to be here. Like you said if he ego isn't taken over he'll stay but he's more mature then most players so I personally doubt he'll leave Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ATLL765 Posted April 10, 2013 Share Posted April 10, 2013 "Quote of the Week II: I asked New Jersey Devils executive Lou Lamoriello if he was close to signing any of his potential free agents. He laughed. Lamoriello: 'You know better than to ask me that.' Me: 'Well, if you were close, you might say yes.' Lamoriello: 'Have you ever won a hockey game by being close?'"http://www.cbc.ca/sports/hockey/opinion/2013/04/30-thoughts-nhl-players-in-sochi-olympics-wont-come-cheap.html Don't worry about Lou's sh!t, he's got it under control. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CarpathianForest Posted April 10, 2013 Share Posted April 10, 2013 Loyalty or not, Patty has to have some hesitation of re-signing. This isn't the same Lou that brought on the Arnotts, Mogilnys and Lemieuxs; you know real talent to make the team competitive. Kovy notwithstanding Lou has tried to patch a tire that is flat beyond repair. We as fans are frustrated at Lou's inability or unwillingness to sign strong talent imagine how some of the players like Patty and Marty feel. They're in the twilight of their careers and their GM isn't making any moves to make this team competitive. It has to be troubling to morale especially when you have GMS like Fletcher that have a win and win now attitude with their acquisitions. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SterioDesign Posted April 10, 2013 Author Share Posted April 10, 2013 Bob Mckenzie says on NBC Sports network program, "Clarkson will be looking for a multi year deal worth 5-6 mil a year. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CarpathianForest Posted April 10, 2013 Share Posted April 10, 2013 Bob Mckenzie says on NBC Sports network program, "Clarkson will be looking for a multi year deal worth 5-6 mil a year. Good luck to him. I'm sure he'll find another team that will (over)pay that. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jagknife Posted April 10, 2013 Share Posted April 10, 2013 Bob Mckenzie says on NBC Sports network program, "Clarkson will be looking for a multi year deal worth 5-6 mil a year. And I'm gonna marry Olivia Wilde while owning the Devils AND winning the Hart in my only year playing Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mitico12 Posted April 10, 2013 Share Posted April 10, 2013 (edited) Clarkson at a contract between $5-6 million is enormously laughable. I would pity the team that does that. He's not worth more than $2.5, and that's being generous. I don't blame Lamoriello for operating the way he does though. You are an "employee" of the Devils, and you are expected to perform until your contract is over. That totally manifests "professionalism" on the athlete's part. Many will argue that "morale" is affected when contracts are in limbo because a player needs to know what he will be doing next season and how he will feed his family. I don't buy that argument all so much, especially when a player has made well over $30 million NET over the course of their contract and shouldn't be hurting for cash or a job the next season. Talking contract during the year can be considered a "dirty conversation." That's like going out to dinner with a friend and discussing who's gonna pay the bill before the appetizer makes its way to the table. It's awkward and it takes the focus off the moment. Lou believes in the SPORT and not necessarily the business. I can admire him for that. Edited April 10, 2013 by Mitico12 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
2ELIAS6 Posted April 10, 2013 Share Posted April 10, 2013 i couldnt imagine seeing elias in a different jersey! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DH26 Posted April 11, 2013 Share Posted April 11, 2013 Bob Mckenzie says on NBC Sports network program, "Clarkson will be looking for a multi year deal worth 5-6 mil a year. I'll drive him to the airport if it's 4 million Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SterioDesign Posted April 11, 2013 Author Share Posted April 11, 2013 I'll drive him to the airport if it's 4 million there's absolutely no way that clarkson goes for less than 4m... no way in hell Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Devilsfan118 Posted April 11, 2013 Share Posted April 11, 2013 i couldnt imagine seeing elias in a different jersey! You'd best prepare yourself. This is another one Lou is probably going to drop the ball on. Lou has done more for this organization than anyone, but this is one of the stupidest mentalities I think a GM can take. Why would you waste all this time and lose that negotiating power. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DH26 Posted April 11, 2013 Share Posted April 11, 2013 there's absolutely no way that clarkson goes for less than 4m... no way in hell oh I know so I'm getting the car ready to drive him Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SterioDesign Posted April 11, 2013 Author Share Posted April 11, 2013 here's a full article with more quotes from Elias and Clarkson http://www.nj.com/devils/index.ssf/2013/04/are_devils_going_down_same_dan.html?utm_medium=referral&utm_source=t.co Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jagknife Posted April 11, 2013 Share Posted April 11, 2013 there's absolutely no way that clarkson goes for less than 4m... no way in hell and if that's the case, and with the cap going down, I'd wait and see who's an amnesty cap casualty before even considering it. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SterioDesign Posted April 11, 2013 Author Share Posted April 11, 2013 and if that's the case, and with the cap going down, I'd wait and see who's an amnesty cap casualty before even considering it. why? i personally don't like the guy but how much would you give to a guy who can score 30 goals, fight, play the PP and PK and goes in front of the net for the dirty goals, play hard and hit ? like seriously ? any teams in the league would like to have a guy like him it's not growing on trees and he will get a good contract wherever he ends up Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ATLL765 Posted April 11, 2013 Share Posted April 11, 2013 Clarkson at a contract between $5-6 million is enormously laughable. I would pity the team that does that. He's not worth more than $2.5, and that's being generous. I don't blame Lamoriello for operating the way he does though. You are an "employee" of the Devils, and you are expected to perform until your contract is over. That totally manifests "professionalism" on the athlete's part. Many will argue that "morale" is affected when contracts are in limbo because a player needs to know what he will be doing next season and how he will feed his family. I don't buy that argument all so much, especially when a player has made well over $30 million NET over the course of their contract and shouldn't be hurting for cash or a job the next season. Talking contract during the year can be considered a "dirty conversation." That's like going out to dinner with a friend and discussing who's gonna pay the bill before the appetizer makes its way to the table. It's awkward and it takes the focus off the moment. Lou believes in the SPORT and not necessarily the business. I can admire him for that. $2.5M. Ok, because that's not more ridiculous than $6M? Count his goals again and tell me he deserves less than his last contract. Unbelievable. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ThreeCups Posted April 11, 2013 Share Posted April 11, 2013 (edited) In terms of Marketing and PR, Lou is rock bottom. As for putting a great product on the ice, he is one of the best. Thing is, he is losing some of his magic. I am not saying that just to be spiteful, but after 25 years of being GM of the same team that magic is going to wear off eventually. He still shows flashes of it, but he is not seemingly pulling rabbits out of a hat like he used to. IDK maybe he just spoiled us early on but we also shouldn't let his accomplishments in the past cloud our future outlook in terms of his position. Like we always say we hate it when he gives out lifeteam achievement contracts to players we also shouldn't let him have a lifetime of getting himself off the hook because of what he did in the past. These are my sentiments in a nutshell..... Edited April 11, 2013 by ThreeCups Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ThreeCups Posted April 11, 2013 Share Posted April 11, 2013 $2.5M. Ok, because that's not more ridiculous than $6M? Count his goals again and tell me he deserves less than his last contract. Unbelievable. I think Clarkie is worth $4M for what he brings to the table....but I can see a team offering him closer to $5M/year on average...if so, it is an overpayment Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ATLL765 Posted April 11, 2013 Share Posted April 11, 2013 I think Clarkie is worth $4M for what he brings to the table....but I can see a team offering him closer to $5M/year on average...if so, it is an overpayment That's how I feel. $2.5M is absolutely ridiculous though. People on here go nuts when someone has a good or bad streak. OMG HE'S WORTH $6M in UFA, HE'S GONNA LEAVE TO GO HOME! Then he has a bad streak and it's all HE'S WORTHLESS, BUT HE'LL STILL GET $6M IN UFA EVEN THOUGH HE'S ONLY WORTH A SACK OF POTATOS!!!!!!!!! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
95Crash Posted April 11, 2013 Share Posted April 11, 2013 In a perfect world, Patty would re-sign at a reasonable rate and end his career having played for only the Devils. But it's so rare that things work out like that these days. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
coldply123 Posted April 11, 2013 Share Posted April 11, 2013 If we had an owner who operated like Lou and followed his philosophy and management principles, Lou would have been fired by now and probably back when Lou first got into trouble with the Cap. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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