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This one's for you too GR.  btw, I only joined this thread to balance out all your Marty negatives.  I have witnessed this hate for Brodeur for over a decade.  I have never encountered a more cantankerous person online since the days of 300 baud dial-up modems.  Maybe you do this for laughs. :noclue:

 

Patrik Elias ----------- 65
Ilya Kovalchuk ------ 62
Dainius Zubrus-------- 35
Andy Greene---------- 26
Martin Brodeur-------- 27 +
Andrei Loktionov-------20 -
Adam Larsson--------- 21
Adam Henrique---------18 

Eliminated!
Bryce Salvador
Anton Volchenkov
Krys Barch
Johan Hedberg
Harri Pesonen
Tom Kostopoulos
Steve Sullivan
Matt D'Agostini
Henrik Tallinder
Alexander Urbom
Alexei Ponikarovsky
Peter Harrold
Stephen Gionta
Marek Zidlicky
Jacob Josefson
Mark Fayne
David Clarkson
Steve Bernier
Travis Zajac
Ryan Carter



                    
                    

                    
                
                
                
 

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Patrik Elias ----------- 64-
Ilya Kovalchuk ------ 63+

Dainius Zubrus-------- 35
Andy Greene---------- 26
Martin Brodeur-------- 27 
Andrei Loktionov-------20 
Adam Larsson--------- 21
Adam Henrique---------18 

Eliminated!
Bryce Salvador
Anton Volchenkov
Krys Barch
Johan Hedberg
Harri Pesonen
Tom Kostopoulos
Steve Sullivan
Matt D'Agostini
Henrik Tallinder
Alexander Urbom
Alexei Ponikarovsky
Peter Harrold
Stephen Gionta
Marek Zidlicky
Jacob Josefson
Mark Fayne
David Clarkson
Steve Bernier
Travis Zajac
Ryan Carter



                    
                    

                    
                
                
                
 

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+Elias

-Loktinov

 

Patrik Elias ----------- 65
Ilya Kovalchuk ------ 63
Dainius Zubrus-------- 35
Andy Greene---------- 26
Martin Brodeur-------- 27 
Adam Larsson--------- 21

Andrei Loktionov-------19
Adam Henrique---------18 

Eliminated!
Bryce Salvador
Anton Volchenkov
Krys Barch
Johan Hedberg
Harri Pesonen
Tom Kostopoulos
Steve Sullivan
Matt D'Agostini
Henrik Tallinder
Alexander Urbom
Alexei Ponikarovsky
Peter Harrold
Stephen Gionta
Marek Zidlicky
Jacob Josefson
Mark Fayne
David Clarkson
Steve Bernier
Travis Zajac
Ryan Carter

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(-) Elias (+) Kovalchuk

 

Patrik Elias ----------- 64
Ilya Kovalchuk ------ 64
Dainius Zubrus-------- 35
Andy Greene---------- 26
Martin Brodeur-------- 27 
Adam Larsson--------- 21

Andrei Loktionov-------19

Adam Henrique---------18 


Eliminated!


Bryce Salvador
Anton Volchenkov
Krys Barch
Johan Hedberg
Harri Pesonen
Tom Kostopoulos
Steve Sullivan
Matt D'Agostini
Henrik Tallinder
Alexander Urbom
Alexei Ponikarovsky
Peter Harrold
Stephen Gionta
Marek Zidlicky
Jacob Josefson
Mark Fayne
David Clarkson
Steve Bernier
Travis Zajac
Ryan Carter

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Henrique +

Greene -

 

Patrik Elias ----------- 64
Ilya Kovalchuk ------ 64
Dainius Zubrus-------- 35
Martin Brodeur-------- 27 

Andy Greene---------- 25
Adam Larsson--------- 21

Andrei Loktionov-------19

Adam Henrique---------19 


Eliminated!


Bryce Salvador
Anton Volchenkov
Krys Barch
Johan Hedberg
Harri Pesonen
Tom Kostopoulos
Steve Sullivan
Matt D'Agostini
Henrik Tallinder
Alexander Urbom
Alexei Ponikarovsky
Peter Harrold
Stephen Gionta
Marek Zidlicky
Jacob Josefson
Mark Fayne
David Clarkson
Steve Bernier
Travis Zajac
Ryan Carter

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Do not let your Marty hate cloud your judgement on other stuff. Zubrus may just be a 3rd liner on other teams but not for this particular team, he is very important. Kovy was a beast for the 2011-2012 season, Elias was not better than him that year or this season. Where was Patty when Kovy got hurt for ten games? He got completely shutdown, he started to produce again when Kovy returned, it was not a coincidence. Yes Patty brings the two way game blah blah blah, but he was completely invisible for a huge portion of this shortened season when we needed him most. Clarkson was awful after that hot streak and was also completely shut down when Kovy was out. He had a stretch of like 2 assists in 33 games, Marty had the same in that stretch. Clarkson is the definition of inconsistency and is useless when he is not scoring.

I get the desire to defend Kovy, but let's not bash Elias. It's almost impossible to succeed when you're the only viable scoring threat, which is what Elias was when Kovy went down. Also, Patty's defense and penalty killing are huge. He's an elite defensive forward, and the Devils have built an identity based on 2 way play. Kovy's gotten much better, but Elias is still the master.

 

Also, I don't get how people are minusing Patty or Kovy. I know most of us want one or the other to win, but they're both clearly the best players on the team. I'm not voting Kovy down until everyone else is gone.

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I get the desire to defend Kovy, but let's not bash Elias. It's almost impossible to succeed when you're the only viable scoring threat, which is what Elias was when Kovy went down. Also, Patty's defense and penalty killing are huge. He's an elite defensive forward, and the Devils have built an identity based on 2 way play. Kovy's gotten much better, but Elias is still the master.

 

Also, I don't get how people are minusing Patty or Kovy. I know most of us want one or the other to win, but they're both clearly the best players on the team. I'm not voting Kovy down until everyone else is gone.

 

I haven't, but it's also positioning to keep them close...    if you dont, you'll see one player with a big advantage in the final two;  or both very high...

 

We're getting down to the top guys now... from either past, present or future.   It will be interesting to see.   We are very clearly fickle, as Zajac should have been part of the top guys... but this past season left a bad taste :)

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I get the desire to defend Kovy, but let's not bash Elias. It's almost impossible to succeed when you're the only viable scoring threat, which is what Elias was when Kovy went down. Also, Patty's defense and penalty killing are huge. He's an elite defensive forward, and the Devils have built an identity based on 2 way play. Kovy's gotten much better, but Elias is still the master.

 

Also, I don't get how people are minusing Patty or Kovy. I know most of us want one or the other to win, but they're both clearly the best players on the team. I'm not voting Kovy down until everyone else is gone.

 

I love Patty. I've been giving him minuses since VicRattle started minusing Kovy (from very early on) just so Elias would take first.  It's immature, it's probably not the way this should be played - but hell if I was gonna see Kovy go down without a fight.

Ilya Kovalchuk ------ 65+

Patrik Elias ----------- 63-

Dainius Zubrus-------- 35

Martin Brodeur-------- 27 

Andy Greene---------- 25

Adam Larsson--------- 21

Andrei Loktionov-------19

Adam Henrique---------19 

Eliminated!

Bryce Salvador

Anton Volchenkov

Krys Barch

Johan Hedberg

Harri Pesonen

Tom Kostopoulos

Steve Sullivan

Matt D'Agostini

Henrik Tallinder

Alexander Urbom

Alexei Ponikarovsky

Peter Harrold

Stephen Gionta

Marek Zidlicky

Jacob Josefson

Mark Fayne

David Clarkson

Steve Bernier

Travis Zajac

Ryan Carter

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Zubrus -

Marty +

 




Ilya Kovalchuk ------ 65


Patrik Elias ----------- 63

Dainius Zubrus-------- 34

Martin Brodeur-------- 28


Andy Greene---------- 25

Adam Larsson--------- 21


Andrei Loktionov-------19


Adam Henrique---------19 



Eliminated!




Bryce Salvador

Anton Volchenkov

Krys Barch

Johan Hedberg

Harri Pesonen

Tom Kostopoulos

Steve Sullivan

Matt D'Agostini

Henrik Tallinder

Alexander Urbom

Alexei Ponikarovsky

Peter Harrold

Stephen Gionta

Marek Zidlicky

Jacob Josefson

Mark Fayne

David Clarkson

Steve Bernier

Travis Zajac

Ryan Carter

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Ilya Kovalchuk ------ 65

Patrik Elias ----------- 63

Dainius Zubrus-------- 35 (+)

Martin Brodeur-------- 28

Andy Greene---------- 25

Adam Larsson--------- 21

Andrei Loktionov-------19

Adam Henrique---------18 (-)

Eliminated!

Bryce Salvador

Anton Volchenkov

Krys Barch

Johan Hedberg

Harri Pesonen

Tom Kostopoulos

Steve Sullivan

Matt D'Agostini

Henrik Tallinder

Alexander Urbom

Alexei Ponikarovsky

Peter Harrold

Stephen Gionta

Marek Zidlicky

Jacob Josefson

Mark Fayne

David Clarkson

Steve Bernier

Travis Zajac

Ryan Carter

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Ilya Kovalchuk ------ 65
Patrik Elias ----------- 63
Dainius Zubrus-------- 35 
Martin Brodeur-------- 29 +
Andy Greene---------- 24 -
Adam Larsson--------- 21
Andrei Loktionov-------19
Adam Henrique---------18 



Eliminated!

Bryce Salvador
Anton Volchenkov
Krys Barch
Johan Hedberg
Harri Pesonen
Tom Kostopoulos
Steve Sullivan
Matt D'Agostini
Henrik Tallinder
Alexander Urbom
Alexei Ponikarovsky
Peter Harrold
Stephen Gionta
Marek Zidlicky
Jacob Josefson
Mark Fayne
David Clarkson
Steve Bernier
Travis Zajac
Ryan Carter

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Adam Henrique +

Andrei Loktionov -

Ilya Kovalchuk------ 65

Patrik Elias----------- 63

Dainius Zubrus-------- 35

Martin Brodeur-------- 29

Andy Greene---------- 24

Adam Larsson--------- 21

Adam Henrique--------- 19

Andrei Loktionov------- 18

Eliminated!

Bryce Salvador

Anton Volchenkov

Krys Barch

Johan Hedberg

Harri Pesonen

Tom Kostopoulos

Steve Sullivan

Matt D'Agostini

Henrik Tallinder

Alexander Urbom

Alexei Ponikarovsky

Peter Harrold

Stephen Gionta

Marek Zidlicky

Jacob Josefson

Mark Fayne

David Clarkson

Steve Bernier

Travis Zajac

Ryan Carter

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Elias + 
Loktionov -

Ilya Kovalchuk------ 65
Patrik Elias----------- 64
Dainius Zubrus-------- 35
Martin Brodeur-------- 29
Andy Greene---------- 24
Adam Larsson--------- 21
Adam Henrique--------- 19 
Andrei Loktionov------- 17

Eliminated!
Bryce Salvador
Anton Volchenkov
Krys Barch
Johan Hedberg
Harri Pesonen
Tom Kostopoulos
Steve Sullivan
Matt D'Agostini
Henrik Tallinder
Alexander Urbom
Alexei Ponikarovsky
Peter Harrold
Stephen Gionta
Marek Zidlicky
Jacob Josefson
Mark Fayne
David Clarkson
Steve Bernier
Travis Zajac
Ryan Carter

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I love Patty. I've been giving him minuses since VicRattle started minusing Kovy (from very early on) just so Elias would take first.  It's immature, it's probably not the way this should be played - but hell if I was gonna see Kovy go down without a fight.

As I stated before, I am doing this based on who played the best last season. Which is why Kovy shouldn't even be mentioned. But I didn't start my consistent elias+ kovy- until I noticed you were doing it all the time. I used to vary my votes.

 

Patrik Elias----------- 65+

Ilya Kovalchuk------ 64-

Dainius Zubrus-------- 35

Martin Brodeur-------- 29

Andy Greene---------- 24

Adam Larsson--------- 21

Adam Henrique--------- 19 

Andrei Loktionov------- 17

Eliminated!

Bryce Salvador

Anton Volchenkov

Krys Barch

Johan Hedberg

Harri Pesonen

Tom Kostopoulos

Steve Sullivan

Matt D'Agostini

Henrik Tallinder

Alexander Urbom

Alexei Ponikarovsky

Peter Harrold

Stephen Gionta

Marek Zidlicky

Jacob Josefson

Mark Fayne

David Clarkson

Steve Bernier

Travis Zajac

Ryan Carter

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Sorry but I look at who will be the future of this team...

 

Henrique +

Zubes -

 

Patrik Elias----------- 65
Ilya Kovalchuk------ 64
Dainius Zubrus-------- 34
Martin Brodeur-------- 29
Andy Greene---------- 24
Adam Larsson--------- 21
Adam Henrique--------- 20
Andrei Loktionov------- 17

Eliminated!
Bryce Salvador
Anton Volchenkov
Krys Barch
Johan Hedberg
Harri Pesonen
Tom Kostopoulos
Steve Sullivan
Matt D'Agostini
Henrik Tallinder
Alexander Urbom
Alexei Ponikarovsky
Peter Harrold
Stephen Gionta
Marek Zidlicky
Jacob Josefson
Mark Fayne
David Clarkson
Steve Bernier
Travis Zajac
Ryan Carter


 

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Greene-

Larsson +

 

Patrik Elias----------- 65
Ilya Kovalchuk------ 64
Dainius Zubrus-------- 34
Martin Brodeur-------- 29
Andy Greene---------- 23-
Adam Larsson--------- 23+
Adam Henrique--------- 20
Andrei Loktionov------- 17

Eliminated!
Bryce Salvador
Anton Volchenkov
Krys Barch
Johan Hedberg
Harri Pesonen
Tom Kostopoulos
Steve Sullivan
Matt D'Agostini
Henrik Tallinder
Alexander Urbom
Alexei Ponikarovsky
Peter Harrold
Stephen Gionta
Marek Zidlicky
Jacob Josefson
Mark Fayne
David Clarkson
Steve Bernier
Travis Zajac
Ryan Carter

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Patrik Elias(+)

Adam Henrique(-)

 

Patrik Elias----------- 66
Ilya Kovalchuk------ 64
Dainius Zubrus-------- 34
Martin Brodeur-------- 29
Andy Greene---------- 23
Adam Larsson--------- 23
Adam Henrique--------- 19
Andrei Loktionov------- 17

Eliminated!
Bryce Salvador
Anton Volchenkov
Krys Barch
Johan Hedberg
Harri Pesonen
Tom Kostopoulos
Steve Sullivan
Matt D'Agostini
Henrik Tallinder
Alexander Urbom
Alexei Ponikarovsky
Peter Harrold
Stephen Gionta
Marek Zidlicky
Jacob Josefson
Mark Fayne
David Clarkson
Steve Bernier
Travis Zajac
Ryan Carter


 

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Patrik Elias----------- 67 +
Ilya Kovalchuk------ 64
Dainius Zubrus-------- 34
Martin Brodeur-------- 28 -
Andy Greene---------- 23
Adam Larsson--------- 23
Adam Henrique--------- 19
Andrei Loktionov------- 17

Eliminated!
Bryce Salvador
Anton Volchenkov
Krys Barch
Johan Hedberg
Harri Pesonen
Tom Kostopoulos
Steve Sullivan
Matt D'Agostini
Henrik Tallinder
Alexander Urbom
Alexei Ponikarovsky
Peter Harrold
Stephen Gionta
Marek Zidlicky
Jacob Josefson
Mark Fayne
David Clarkson
Steve Bernier
Travis Zajac
Ryan Carter

 

Hurts to keep voting Marty down, but legend looks done.

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As I stated before, I am doing this based on who played the best last season. Which is why Kovy shouldn't even be mentioned. But I didn't start my consistent elias+ kovy- until I noticed you were doing it all the time. I used to vary my votes.

 

Lol. Let the record show you subtracted from Kovy 12 times! and three weeks before I took away from Elias even once. I held my patience for awhile, so don't make things up - even though this is all in good fun. I will agree to stop X-ing Elias if you do the same to Kovy - at least until the finals. I don't care either way.

 

Patrik Elias----------- 66 -

Ilya Kovalchuk------ 65+

Dainius Zubrus-------- 34

Martin Brodeur-------- 28 

Andy Greene---------- 23

Adam Larsson--------- 23

Adam Henrique--------- 19

Andrei Loktionov------- 17

Eliminated!

Bryce Salvador

Anton Volchenkov

Krys Barch

Johan Hedberg

Harri Pesonen

Tom Kostopoulos

Steve Sullivan

Matt D'Agostini

Henrik Tallinder

Alexander Urbom

Alexei Ponikarovsky

Peter Harrold

Stephen Gionta

Marek Zidlicky

Jacob Josefson

Mark Fayne

David Clarkson

Steve Bernier

Travis Zajac

Ryan Carter

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Henrique (-) Kovalchuk (+)

 

Patrik Elias----------- 66
Ilya Kovalchuk------ 66
Dainius Zubrus-------- 34
Martin Brodeur-------- 28 
Andy Greene---------- 23
Adam Larsson--------- 23
Adam Henrique--------- 18
Andrei Loktionov------- 17

Eliminated!
Bryce Salvador
Anton Volchenkov
Krys Barch
Johan Hedberg
Harri Pesonen
Tom Kostopoulos
Steve Sullivan
Matt D'Agostini
Henrik Tallinder
Alexander Urbom
Alexei Ponikarovsky
Peter Harrold
Stephen Gionta
Marek Zidlicky
Jacob Josefson
Mark Fayne
David Clarkson
Steve Bernier
Travis Zajac
Ryan Carter

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Lol. Let the record show you subtracted from Kovy 12 times! and three weeks before I took away from Elias even once. I held my patience for awhile, so don't make things up - even though this is all in good fun. I will agree to stop X-ing Elias if you do the same to Kovy - at least until the finals. I don't care either way.

Yeah I went back and looked and the first 2 or three times I did my usual vote. However, you have never not +'d kovalchuk. Which is ridiculous because he played subpar this season.

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Kovy literally hit at least 15 pipes this season, would have been a much different perception if half of those went in.

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Yeah I went back and looked and the first 2 or three times I did my usual vote. However, you have never not +'d kovalchuk. Which is ridiculous because he played subpar this season.

 

I love Kovy. Anybody should + anybody they want. Anyways let's move past this. Either we both stop or it goes how it goes.

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Patrik Elias----------- 67+

Ilya Kovalchuk------ 66

Dainius Zubrus-------- 33-

Martin Brodeur-------- 28

Andy Greene---------- 23

Adam Larsson--------- 23

Adam Henrique--------- 18

Andrei Loktionov------- 17

Eliminated!

Bryce Salvador

Anton Volchenkov

Krys Barch

Johan Hedberg

Harri Pesonen

Tom Kostopoulos

Steve Sullivan

Matt D'Agostini

Henrik Tallinder

Alexander Urbom

Alexei Ponikarovsky

Peter Harrold

Stephen Gionta

Marek Zidlicky

Jacob Josefson

Mark Fayne

David Clarkson

Steve Bernier

Travis Zajac

Ryan Carter

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+Elias

-Loktinov

Patrik Elias----------- 68

Ilya Kovalchuk------ 66
Dainius Zubrus-------- 33
Martin Brodeur-------- 28 
Andy Greene---------- 23
Adam Larsson--------- 23
Adam Henrique--------- 18
Andrei Loktionov------- 16

Eliminated!
Bryce Salvador
Anton Volchenkov
Krys Barch
Johan Hedberg
Harri Pesonen
Tom Kostopoulos
Steve Sullivan
Matt D'Agostini
Henrik Tallinder
Alexander Urbom
Alexei Ponikarovsky
Peter Harrold
Stephen Gionta
Marek Zidlicky
Jacob Josefson
Mark Fayne
David Clarkson
Steve Bernier
Travis Zajac
Ryan Carter

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