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Lecav to philly for 5 years 23 mill.

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Listening to TSN radio now, they are saying LeCavalier to Philly is a done deal.. 5 years, 23 million.   Seems like a really good deal to me, especially if people are serious about paying the same kinda money to Clarkson.. :P

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Yes, Vinny is better.   The term of this deal could be a problem.... Of course I still respect him and wish he went out west instead of being in our yet unn-amed division

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Are they over the cap if you account for Pronger not being on the cap (I know that's not exactly how it works but hopefully you know what I mean)

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How the heck do they expect to keep their RFA's after this upcoming season? Giroux will easily get a raise!

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Are they over the cap if you account for Pronger not being on the cap (I know that's not exactly how it works but hopefully you know what I mean)

 

Yes, but only by a little.  They lose a lot of salary next year but they have to pay Giroux, Schenn, and Couturier.

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Holmgren is clueless. Good player but it makes no sense to get rid of briere gagne bryz and now another player for Streit and Vinnie. Depth apparently doesn't mean anything to the flyers

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Are they over the cap if you account for Pronger not being on the cap (I know that's not exactly how it works but hopefully you know what I mean)

 

Cap Geek still has Pronger as a cap hit so yeah they're technically under it right now.

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Pronger also has to retire eventually

 

He won't until that contract's over (4 more years).

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He won't until that contract's over (4 more years).

 

But that's bullsh!t.   It's cap circumvention.  There should be a realistic expectation of what the point of no return is for him.

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Cap Geek still has Pronger as a cap hit so yeah they're technically under it right now.

 

Pronger counts during the offseason but your opening roster has to come in under the cap, I believe, then you can put him on LTIR.

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Holmgren is clueless. Good player but it makes no sense to get rid of briere gagne bryz and now another player for Streit and Vinnie. Depth apparently doesn't mean anything to the flyers

they want to resign gagne to lol

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But that's bullsh!t.   It's cap circumvention.  There should be a realistic expectation of what the point of no return is for him.

 

That may not be a fight the league wants.  It's hard to prove he can never play again, since concussions can act strangely.  So you get one doctor arguing Pronger can never play again and another doctor that says Pronger may be able to play again and then you probably couldn't force a retirement.  Team, NHLPA, and Player all say they want the contract to continue in hopes he can play again, tough for an arbiter to overturn on a he said/she said type argument by the league.

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All NHL contracts have always been guaranteed for players injured during play - what you'd be doing is forcing Pronger to give that up.  It's not cap circumvention.

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That may not be a fight the league wants.  It's hard to prove he can never play again, since concussions can act strangely.  So you get one doctor arguing Pronger can never play again and another doctor that says Pronger may be able to play again and then you probably couldn't force a retirement.  Team, NHLPA, and Player all say they want the contract to continue in hopes he can play again, tough for an arbiter to overturn on a he said/she said type argument by the league.

 

He's 39 at the start of next season.   This is the kind of stuff they used in the Kovalchuk arbitration.   Let's be honest if it wasn't Comcast, this would be handled differently.    He'd be gone of natural causes within a season or two even if he played all the way through.

All NHL contracts have always been guaranteed for players injured during play - what you'd be doing is forcing Pronger to give that up.  It's not cap circumvention.

 

But a 35+ deal is supposed to stay on the books even if the player is retired.    At minimum they should be forced to buy him out

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He's 39 at the start of next season.   This is the kind of stuff they used in the Kovalchuk arbitration.   Let's be honest if it wasn't Comcast, this would be handled differently.    He'd be gone of natural causes within a season or two even if he played all the way through.

 

But a 35+ deal is supposed to stay on the books even if the player is retired.    At minimum they should be forced to buy him out

 

The league has already approved Pronger's contract so it's a completely different situation.

 

I believe you can't buy out injured players.

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Well there is the matter of Clarkson's age compared to Vinny's. but yeah if Clarkson gets a $40 million contract I give up on this league.

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It is BS, but as covered above its very hard to challenge.  So you have to see how frequently this kind of things happens with the 35+ players before making a rule against it.  In this case his misfortune ends up helping the Flyers out of what likely would have been a bad deal, but it was unintentional

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