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1 year for the right price take him. Someone is going to get him  on the cheap. Just a matter of time, He wants to play but is presently trying for the best dollar deal I can't blame him so just stay with him he wants a chance to win the cup and play with Elias. Don't panic Lou.

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honestly if Jagr were touring anything to see if he should join the Devils, it'd be the new casino in Atlantic City

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honestly if Jagr were touring anything to see if he should join the Devils, it'd be the new casino in Atlantic City

 

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Revel? I can see that out of my hotel window right now :) I've been here all week, no Jagr sighting yet.

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A little off-topic, but how is Revel anyways?  Anything there of note that I should see when I am there next month?

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A little off-topic, but how is Revel anyways?  Anything there of note that I should see when I am there next month?

It just had it's first profitable week. They celebrated by firing 70+ employees.

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It just had it's first profitable week. They celebrated by firing 70+ employees.

 

Makes sense lol.  Is it nice?  I am not much of a gambler so casinos look all the same and do not interest me.

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Makes sense lol.  Is it nice?  I am not much of a gambler so casinos look all the same and do not interest me.

I agree. The whole casino thing is one giant trap for idiot's cash. Idiot goes in with cash, comes out a bit drunk, no cash. The whole thing is rigged so if you keep playing, you WILL lose money eventually. Only way I'd gamble is if I had some cash I really couldn't use on something better(unlikely), then maybe I'd play some blackjack, a few tries at the roulette wheel, that's about it. I don't know, maybe it's just that I understand math, but I don't like playing a game where I cannot gain the upper hand no matter what I do.

I mean, sure, if you want to just do it for "fun", go right ahead, but I just don't see the entertainment value in playing games you could play anywhere, all for the VERY small chance you'll make money.

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My girlfriend went to Vegas and played some type of wheel of fortune roulette game. She put 50 dollars in the machine and swore she wouldn't spend another dime. First spin she wins $1,000 dollars and walks away. Smart girl

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I agree. The whole casino thing is one giant trap for idiot's cash. Idiot goes in with cash, comes out a bit drunk, no cash. The whole thing is rigged so if you keep playing, you WILL lose money eventually. Only way I'd gamble is if I had some cash I really couldn't use on something better(unlikely), then maybe I'd play some blackjack, a few tries at the roulette wheel, that's about it. I don't know, maybe it's just that I understand math, but I don't like playing a game where I cannot gain the upper hand no matter what I do.

I mean, sure, if you want to just do it for "fun", go right ahead, but I just don't see the entertainment value in playing games you could play anywhere, all for the VERY small chance you'll make money.

 

What?  It's not a very small chance, that's how casinos stay in business.  The house edge on blackjack and craps is very small, it's larger on roulette and I believe largest on slot machines.  Still, if people went bust every time they went to casinos, they'd be out of business quickly.  The fun of gambling is the thrill of winning (or for some losing) - I can't think of anything more boring than playing roulette for no money.  No one understands that better than Jaromir Jagr. 

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What?  It's not a very small chance, that's how casinos stay in business.  The house edge on blackjack and craps is very small, it's larger on roulette and I believe largest on slot machines.  Still, if people went bust every time they went to casinos, they'd be out of business quickly.  The fun of gambling is the thrill of winning (or for some losing) - I can't think of anything more boring than playing roulette for no money.  No one understands that better than Jaromir Jagr. 

I understand the odds, but the average person isn't going to play perfectly or have a good understanding of the game, which will affect their ability to win at blackjack, then add in comped drinks, ability diminished further. If you have all those things, at best it's like a 40-45% you'll win, I think. I don't have a very good understanding of the game of craps, so I won't comment there.

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A little off-topic, but how is Revel anyways?  Anything there of note that I should see when I am there next month?

I've never been in there but I hear it's extremely nice. They tried to cater only to "high class" when they opened last year which is why they almost went out of business. This year they toned it done and are taking all the business they can get. If you like getting the free drinks while in the casinos Ballys is one of the best because you can order straight from the slot machines instead of waiting for one of the drink girls to come by. Free mixed drinks + tip or $1 bottles of beer. Last year when wifey and I stayed in Ballys we'd be able to just keep a slow pace at the slots, drink for 2-3 hours and only lose $20-$30 bucks each...which is on par or less of what I'd spend at a bar.

 

As far as attractions. this year we did the dolphin tour at the marina. 2 hour cruise from 1-3 and they guarantee dolphin sitings or they give you another tour free. Next time we come just the two of us, wifey and I want to do the cocktail cruise which is at 6pm, goes down then back up the Atlantic City casino run, and is open bar.

 

Margaritaville and Land Shark which are Jimmy Buffet's chains are brand new this year outside of Resorts. The board walk area isn't as trashy as it used to be. You're fine walking the board walk after dark as long as the bars are still open. 

 

Other then that, Ripley's had some new stuff this year they didn't have last year...IDK guess it depends what you enjoy doing to tell you what is new or good in the area, also depends last time you were down here.

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I understand the odds, but the average person isn't going to play perfectly or have a good understanding of the game, which will affect their ability to win at blackjack, then add in comped drinks, ability diminished further. If you have all those things, at best it's like a 40-45% you'll win, I think. I don't have a very good understanding of the game of craps, so I won't comment there.

 

I don't gamble as much as I used to, but in my experience, blackjack dealers will always tell you what the right move is if you don't know.  And people at the tables generally seem to know too.  

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My brother's architecture firm worked on Revel.. He designed the gaming floor and restaurant areas.. Said their management was completely stupid.. As much as he tried, they insisted on a lot of dead space (very notable by the check in desks which could hold a line of 200 people easy, but why) and he said the biggest issue was that their vision was to appeal to younger people (18-40) but charge a premium.. For some reason they forgot that young people don't make 50+ year old salaries and can't blow $300+ on a room plus $40 cover at the club plus $20 on a cheeseburger at Central

They basically had the mentality that "if we build it, people will spend whatever it takes to come" and it just doesn't make sense with their intended market

That said, Revel is awesome.. The rooms all basically have iPads that control everything from the TV to streaming Pandora, turning on and off lights, and closing/opening the shades.. The floor is gorgeous and the restaurants are nice.. Just too much money to do more than a few times a year if that

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If you like getting the free drinks while in the casinos Ballys is one of the best because you can order straight from the slot machines instead of waiting for one of the drink girls to come by. Free mixed drinks + tip or $1 bottles of beer. Last year when wifey and I stayed in Ballys we'd be able to just keep a slow pace at the slots, drink for 2-3 hours and only lose $20-$30 bucks each...which is on par or less of what I'd spend at a bar.

 

Same here. I'm not a big gambler, but went to Bally's and played some cheap slots. My girlfriend and I were hammered and ended up up like $60 each haha.. Not bad for a couple of kids who never go gambling.

 

Hanging out in Manhattan usually, if I were to drink the amount that I drank at Bally's, would've run me like $150.

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Same here. I'm not a big gambler, but went to Bally's and played some cheap slots. My girlfriend and I were hammered and ended up up like $60 each haha.. Not bad for a couple of kids who never go gambling.

 

Hanging out in Manhattan usually, if I were to drink the amount that I drank at Bally's, would've run me like $150.

 

Yup! That's why I love Bally's. This year we are down for my daughters National Dance Competition which is held in Bally's, but, since that is being held there we are staying in Wyndham Skyline Towers since my parents have a timeshare there. As long as you can pace your slot button pushing, you can do well in terms of alchohol/cost compared to all other casino's for the simple fact you can just order and they come. You don't have to wait to find someone, order, then wait for them to fill the rest of their ticket to go fill it and bring your drink. Also, I like that Bally's gives you an actual bottle of beer for $1 instead of a tiny cup of draught beer.

My brother's architecture firm worked on Revel.. He designed the gaming floor and restaurant areas.. Said their management was completely stupid.. As much as he tried, they insisted on a lot of dead space (very notable by the check in desks which could hold a line of 200 people easy, but why) and he said the biggest issue was that their vision was to appeal to younger people (18-40) but charge a premium.. For some reason they forgot that young people don't make 50+ year old salaries and can't blow $300+ on a room plus $40 cover at the club plus $20 on a cheeseburger at Central They basically had the mentality that "if we build it, people will spend whatever it takes to come" and it just doesn't make sense with their intended market That said, Revel is awesome.. The rooms all basically have iPads that control everything from the TV to streaming Pandora, turning on and off lights, and closing/opening the shades.. The floor is gorgeous and the restaurants are nice.. Just too much money to do more than a few times a year if that

 

Vegas mentality in AC just isn't going to work. Glad they realized that and are trying to change that image this year. Borgata was trying that also...but maybe not to as much of an extreme? I think they've been doing decent.

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My brother's architecture firm worked on Revel.. He designed the gaming floor and restaurant areas.. Said their management was completely stupid.. As much as he tried, they insisted on a lot of dead space (very notable by the check in desks which could hold a line of 200 people easy, but why) and he said the biggest issue was that their vision was to appeal to younger people (18-40) but charge a premium.. For some reason they forgot that young people don't make 50+ year old salaries and can't blow $300+ on a room plus $40 cover at the club plus $20 on a cheeseburger at Central They basically had the mentality that "if we build it, people will spend whatever it takes to come" and it just doesn't make sense with their intended market That said, Revel is awesome.. The rooms all basically have iPads that control everything from the TV to streaming Pandora, turning on and off lights, and closing/opening the shades.. The floor is gorgeous and the restaurants are nice.. Just too much money to do more than a few times a year if that

 I went to Revel last summer for a Journey concert and it looked pretty nice. Stayed at the Showboat though, couldn't spend $500 for one night on a room at Revel, couldn't find any deals online. From what I saw it was a nice place, they just have the wrong business model

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In terms of gambling the only games that interest me are blackjack and roulette. I have had some decent luck with them in the past but just never got that gambling bug.

Slots are boring to me and I never understood craps or baccarat. You look like you can win big at baccarat but its that game they have in every James Bond movie where 99% of the audience have no clue if he is winning or not since they don't understand the game and the dealer is usually speaking in a really dapper French accent ( the dealer in those movies is always French, even if its someplace else like South America). The only time people know if bond wins is by the reaction of the other players. I tried learning baccarat on the computer but I felt like I should be wearing a tuxedo while doing the tutorial.

I'm going to be staying at a timeshare this year but usually stay at ballys because I always get great rates and always get upgraded rooms due to their incompetence.

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In terms of gambling the only games that interest me are blackjack and roulette. I have had some decent luck with them in the past but just never got that gambling bug.

Slots are boring to me and I never understood craps or baccarat. You look like you can win big at baccarat but its that game they have in every James Bond movie where 99% of the audience have no clue if he is winning or not since they don't understand the game and the dealer is usually speaking in a really dapper French accent ( the dealer in those movies is always French, even if its someplace else like South America). The only time people know if bond wins is by the reaction of the other players. I tried learning baccarat on the computer but I felt like I should be wearing a tuxedo while doing the tutorial.

I'm going to be staying at a timeshare this year but usually stay at ballys because I always get great rates and always get upgraded rooms due to their incompetence.

 

Funny you say that about Bally's, that was sort of the reason we received an ocean view suite instead of a deluxe ocean view room for my anniversary last year. At least they make up for it and upgrade you.

 

I'm at Wyndham Skyline this year, which is really nice. All efficiency suites I'm guessing. 1BR, 1BR deluxe and 2BR deluxe rooms. If you're staying here...it's really nice except they have basically 2 elevators for 32 floors or some crap. Takes forever. If that's where you're staying...let me know I'll give you a few good tips about the hotel and stuff.

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Funny you say that about Bally's, that was sort of the reason we received an ocean view suite instead of a deluxe ocean view room for my anniversary last year. At least they make up for it and upgrade you.

I'm at Wyndham Skyline this year, which is really nice. All efficiency suites I'm guessing. 1BR, 1BR deluxe and 2BR deluxe rooms. If you're staying here...it's really nice except they have basically 2 elevators for 32 floors or some crap. Takes forever. If that's where you're staying...let me know I'll give you a few good tips about the hotel and stuff.

Thanks and not sure where I am staying. It is my gf's parents time share and honestly not even sure how they can afford it.

First time at ballys got upgraded to a garden suite after our bathtub started getting sewage through the spout. Thank god neither was in when it happened.

Second time got updated to another suite when original room that we requested non smoking because my gf is sensitive to it reeked of smoke.

Third time we got upgraded to ocean view suite when original room had freshly stained pillows and hair all over the bed and bathroom when we got there. I'm not talking about head hair either...

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If it's Wyndham Skyline, or if anyone else is staying there let me know. I can give a couple pointers just to make life easier when you go. Not thing all that huge but made my life easier being here...enough sidelining the Jagr to NJ thread...

 

On topic...I did see a nice mullet today.

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Jagr is too quiet right now... I feel he will reach a deal with a team by the weekend

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My brother's architecture firm worked on Revel.. He designed the gaming floor and restaurant areas.. Said their management was completely stupid.. As much as he tried, they insisted on a lot of dead space (very notable by the check in desks which could hold a line of 200 people easy, but why) and he said the biggest issue was that their vision was to appeal to younger people (18-40) but charge a premium.. For some reason they forgot that young people don't make 50+ year old salaries and can't blow $300+ on a room plus $40 cover at the club plus $20 on a cheeseburger at Central They basically had the mentality that "if we build it, people will spend whatever it takes to come" and it just doesn't make sense with their intended market That said, Revel is awesome.. The rooms all basically have iPads that control everything from the TV to streaming Pandora, turning on and off lights, and closing/opening the shades.. The floor is gorgeous and the restaurants are nice.. Just too much money to do more than a few times a year if that

 

It doesn't "fit" in AC and will probably never do solid business during the week under the current ownership.   Funny story:  Last December I entered the Revel football pick'em.   I went 8-7, no line, straight up.   Totally dreadful.   I was one of the 1,000 winners and got $25 slot play.   That's how little foot traffic they had.   :lol:   I thought they sent the email to the wrong person when I got it.    AC needs cheap, and by cheap, I mean, relative cheap.  It needs quick service restaurants and free drinks at the poker bar and oodles of cheapo slot machines and multi-line gimmick video poker.   Cheap poker tournaments, etc.    You can have the high end stuff too, but if you cut off "cheap", you cut off almost all of your weekday business.   I've gone into the Mussel Bar a couple of times, I love their beer selection.   But whenever I've been in there there's a couple of people eating and a couple people drinking, they have to be losing hand over fist, and if the restaurants don't go out of business, they'll run for the hills when their leases are up.

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