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Kovalchuk Gone, What moves do we make now?

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I really hope we announce the signing of Jagr TODAY!

 

For the first time in years, I am looking to re-new my season ticket package.   I like the team right now, because I know the kids finally have a chance to step-up (talking about Josefson in particular).

 

If we sign Jagr, I will keep my money.  Because it is a step in the wrong direction.

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We have NEVER had a problem signing free agents.  Our pre-Kovy tradition of winning hockey was attractive to free agents.  Devils hockey elevated a players stature in the marketplace and allowed avergae players to get huge deals later in their career (Holik, Gomez, Clarkson, Sykora, etc.).

 

There is no uncertainty here.  You want to win, come here.

 

Yup. The Devils organization has a reputation of developing players really well and the Devils system optimizes the player's ability. That's why more often than not when a big name Devils player goes UFA to another team the underachieve(Some exceptions of course).

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This might have been mentioned already: But how about Tomas Vanek to New Jersey?

 

Darcy Regier just gave your franchise one gift this past week, why not another?

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This might have been mentioned already: But how about Tomas Vanek to New Jersey?

 

Darcy Regier just gave your franchise one gift this past week, why not another?

 

I said it earlier:  Vanek and Elias would be unstopable.   Depends on what we have to give up.

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He did no such thing, unless it's a gift to take an underpaid 2nd pairing D for a nothing player.

 

Vanek would be an awful panic move.

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I said it earlier:  Vanek and Elias would be unstopable.   Depends on what we have to give up.

 

 

Well I have a feeling the Sabres are motivated to make a Vanek trade and hopefully pawn Miller off on someone (he will be a deadline move at best).

 

And since the Devils and Sabres just recently talked trade, I really think Vanek to New Jersey can be a reality.

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He did no such thing, unless it's a gift to take an underpaid 2nd pairing D for a nothing player.

 

Vanek would be an awful panic move.

 

Buffalo took an overpaid, average defensemen off our roster freeing up capspace.   that was a gift.

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We don't have the assets to acquire Vanek. We don't have the assets to aquire anyone on that level through trade.

 

We'd have to give up at least Henrique, a D prospect, and a good pick. 

 

We're going to have to roll with team we have + maybe Jagr or Grabovski or something and hope we can squeak into the playoffs somehow. The good news is the Flyers should still suck too and the Isles and Rags aren't really contenders yet either so there's a small chance.

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Vanek has Kovy part 2 written all over it. First, he costs 7.1 mil, you're looking at sending picks and at least 2 top young players to Buffalo. In addition he's a UFA after 13-14 so we'd get to relive all the excitement of the 2010 off season while Vanek decides if he wants to come back or not.

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The Flyers will be solid next year as will the Islanders.   Rangers will continue to stumble.

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You know what the problem is, here? You'll never be happy and you'll die alone.

And you know what, what was he supposed to stay? He knew that it was a possible decision. He was supposed to say "hey, heads up, our star player kinda wants to go home so we don't really know if he'll be here". If he decided to stay, that's the ONLY thing people would talk about. This isn't Lou dropping a ball, this is you sucking one.

We don't need a center, Zajac isn't paid to play on the third line, and in what universe would Tedenby play over Loktionov?[/quote

Like I said fvck you a$$hole

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Like I said fvck you a$$hole

Killer response. You truly believe in your argument, especially with the ability to back it up like that.

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Vanek has Kovy part 2 written all over it. First, he costs 7.1 mil, you're looking at sending picks and at least 2 top young players to Buffalo. In addition he's a UFA after 13-14 so we'd get to relive all the excitement of the 2010 off season while Vanek decides if he wants to come back or not.

 

Good points.

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For the first time in years, I am looking to re-new my season ticket package.   I like the team right now, because I know the kids finally have a chance to step-up (talking about Josefson in particular).

 

If we sign Jagr, I will keep my money.  Because it is a step in the wrong direction.

 

Manta, you hated Kovy from day 1.  Please tell the board right now that you honestly believe the Devils are a better team without Kovy than with him?!?

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Manta, you hated Kovy from day 1.  Please tell the board right now that you honestly believe the Devils are a better team without Kovy than with him?!?

 

I thought I made that clear in my opening statement.    But yes, I believe the Devil's will be a better team without Kovy.

And for the billionth time, I never hated Kovy, I didn't think he fit in the culture and the team concept of the Devils.

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Manta has a point. Remember how awful this team was when Kovy was out of the lineup. It has to go back to a team system with 20-30 goal scorers up and down the line.

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You two need to stop trading insults on this thread. I'm sure if we wanted to watch the pants Monologues we'd rent it.

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For the first time in years, I am looking to re-new my season ticket package.   I like the team right now, because I know the kids finally have a chance to step-up (talking about Josefson in particular).

 

If we sign Jagr, I will keep my money.  Because it is a step in the wrong direction.

 

I don't think it would be. Jagr wouldn't be locked up for long and it would be a stop gap until 2014 where there will be quite an impressive free agent class. Jagr on a 1 year deal couldn't hurt. Although I feel a better option would be Brunner on a 1-2 year deal.

 

I agree that this loss isn't as bad as some fans are making out. We have quite a bit of cap space now and we lose a first round draft pick in a weak draft. If this team can just make the playoffs I'll consider this season a success because I'm sure a lot of people now have us as this basement team. Which is BS.

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I just realized. We won't have kovalchuk doing turn overs for 2 minutes on the blue line during powerplays. We will have an effective powerplay this year!!! excited!

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I just realized. We won't have kovalchuk doing turn overs for 2 minutes on the blue line during powerplays. We will have an effective powerplay this year!!! excited!

 

Well we will certainly be less predictable on the PP. We won't have 4 guys paying pass the puck just to set one guy up for a shot.

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While there are pros and cons about Kovy leaving, how it affects the power play is EASILY the biggest flaw. Do you guys remember how it looked when he was hurt? Kovalchuk was an incredible threat on the power play and right now we don't have a single guy to feature.

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I don't think it would be. Jagr wouldn't be locked up for long and it would be a stop gap until 2014 where there will be quite an impressive free agent class. Jagr on a 1 year deal couldn't hurt. Although I feel a better option would be Brunner on a 1-2 year deal.

 

I agree that this loss isn't as bad as some fans are making out. We have quite a bit of cap space now and we lose a first round draft pick in a weak draft. If this team can just make the playoffs I'll consider this season a success because I'm sure a lot of people now have us as this basement team. Which is BS.

 

Stop gap is not a winning strategy. 

 

I can' t see paying an old, slow, former scoring threat several millions (based on what he did a decade ago) to watch him play half a season, get his annual injury and then watch him struggle in the first round of the playoffs and then gone when we get eliminated. 

 

PASS on JAGR.    Maybe we have a Clarkson, or some other undrafted player waiting in the wings to get a chance.

 

I think we have a young eager team that will NOW get the opportunity to play.

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While there are pros and cons about Kovy leaving, how it affects the power play is EASILY the biggest flaw. Do you guys remember how it looked when he was hurt? Kovalchuk was an incredible threat on the power play and right now we don't have a single guy to feature.

True, but that was because it was constructed with Kovalchuk, without Kovalchuk being there. This year, they'll have the summer to construct a balanced powerplay.

 

Whether it'll be better or worse is up in the air, but as noted before, it will definitely be less predictable

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