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[Official] Damien Brunner signed to multi-year deal

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Define "good". :P  I'd prefer to never see Barch or Pelley.

Barch isn't that bad. Everyone hating on Barch needs to relax. We need at least one guy who can play the role he plays. Without him, who do we have to do this? Cam? No thanks, I'll take Barch 100 out of 100 times over Cam. Barch is not a great hockey player, but he CAN play hockey on the 4th line without being a giant anchor. Would you rather we play Cam against the Rags and Flyers instead of Barch?

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Barch is the only guy left who can fight and who we'd want to fight. The situation will arise and we will need to use him. 

 

Clowe can drop 'em but we won't want him too

 

Carter can fight but he's not a heavyweight.

 

Bernier fights like once a year so he's out

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Gionta has a 2 way so he can stay in the AHL so we only have to scratch two of Tedenby Barch Josefson Olesz when needed. But of course the coaches and players love Gio.

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Gionta has a 2 way so he can stay in the AHL so we only have to scratch two of Tedenby Barch Josefson Olesz when needed. But of course the coaches and players love Gio.

 

If we're a playoff team, Gionta should never see the NHL roster.  But yea, Deboer has an infinite hard on for him.  

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I don't want to see Cam either ofcourse.. I feel like the whole 'one goon pr team' thing is a bit outdated.. :(

I suppose if we have to waste a spot on someone like that, Barch is the lesser evil.

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elias-zajac-ryder

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gionta/carter

 

its a logjam but injuries will happen

 

And that's after already getting rid of Tedenby/Barch who are on one-way deals, and there's no buyout period left this year.  People that think we're going to sign another forward (assuming we have signed Jagr) really aren't taking this into account.  Another signing either makes Josefson irrelevant or the newest signing Olesz.

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And that's after already getting rid of Tedenby/Barch who are on one-way deals, and there's no buyout period left this year. People that think we're going to sign another forward (assuming we have signed Jagr) really aren't taking this into account. Another signing either makes Josefson irrelevant or the newest signing Olesz.

Teddy and barch can both be sent down

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Teddy and barch can both be sent down

Those are two pretty damn expensive players to send to the A. 

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exactly i'd rather have a logjam on forwards than on the defence again, we don't a lots of top talent but man we have really good depth still. Gionta, Olesz, Carter, Barch, Pelley are good call ups.

 

i know Olesz is better than he's been presented lately but i still think he'll have to win his spot on the team. Carter is really solid i cant see him being scratch, he's the perfect 4th liner.

 

that depth gives us opportunities to make packaged deals that wouldnt hurt us that much.

 

Volchenkov + Josefson + Urbom for example. Not a lot of salary to take for what you could be getting and we wouldnt be missing too much either. Obviously we'd have to get back salary probably. But if we could get someone like Hemsky who seems to be on the block for something similar. Totally an example but who knows... i dont think anyone would take just volchenkov but in a package like that and getting a decent guy in return... who knows? 

Umm, except I don't think it's common practice to trade away guys you've just signed.  Josefson for example.  I think Lou wants dibs on any kind of production Josefson can give them.

 

Those are two pretty damn expensive players to send to the A. 

Tedenby can still get claimed and his contract is like a 750k cap hit in the NHL.   It's crazy, but our entire forward corps has basically signed new contracts.  It's boom or bust for Teds here really because if he's a bust, he turns into another Matt Corrente, and no one wants that.  We'll see if he can stick in training camp and that will decide his fate.  It doesn't bode well if he starts the season in the AHL, same for Josefson and maybe Olesz.

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Those are two pretty damn expensive players to send to the A.

It is, but for brunner, it should be worth it. No sketchy russian on the books should mean some extra cash.

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Those are two pretty damn expensive players to send to the A. 

Kind of sucks that the Devils gave Tedenby a one way deal for $600,000. Normally I wouldn't care if the Devils were paying that much for a guy who will be healthy scratch a lot but considering they'll have 1 or 2 other forwards in the press box to start the year, it seems a bit much to be stuck with. I doubt they want to spend that much on him playing in the AHL.

 

I honestly wouldn't mind losing him on waivers. I know he's young but unlike a player like Josefson, he hasn't shown me anything that makes me think he will be a NHL player. Plus the reserve list is getting really crammed right now. Add in Jagr and the re-signings of Henrique and Kelly (assuming he gets a NHL and not AHL deal) and their at 49.

 

Question: If a contract slides, I know that means it gets delayed in starting, but does that mean it also doesn't count against the 50 man limit on the reserve list? Severson's ELC should slide this year which would open up a spot if that is infact the rule.

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It is, but for brunner, it should be worth it. No sketchy russian on the books should mean some extra cash.

 

It's not the cash that's the real worry, even if they have to waste a million or two in the minors (which nobody really wants to do), it's the fact they're going to be banging up against the 50 contract limit again.

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If we're a playoff team, Gionta should never see the NHL roster.  But yea, Deboer has an infinite hard on for him.  

 

Yes, because as everyone knows, he was completely useless in the 2012 playoffs.

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Yes, because as everyone knows, he was completely useless in the 2012 playoffs.

 

He shouldn't be kept around for one good playoff run though.

 

I like what he brings, but he's embarrassingly bad on faceoffs for a center.  And, while he works pretty damn hard, it's still tough to have a small player in a checking role.  If Olesz takes his spot and beats him out..I won't be very upset.

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look at us talking as if we can spend to the cap and that we dont have money problem like the whole world is saying we do....... or do we? :P

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Yes, because as everyone knows, he was completely useless in the 2012 playoffs.

 

And he was completely outmatched and over his head last season, which was also a better indication of his career norm talent level.  Sure, he played fine during the 2012 playoffs...that was his 15 minutes.  

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And he was completely outmatched and over his head last season, which was also a better indication of his career norm talent level.  Sure, he played fine during the 2012 playoffs...that was his 15 minutes.  

 

Agreed. Bryce had a great run as well, but it should have ended there. Gio, while it is really hard not to root for him, should not be on a NHL roster, especially the Devils as it sits now. If you think we watch all these FA signings intently, then he has to be beside himself wanting to know the roster.

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This pretty much sounds spot on. Going over the cap and announcing all these signings gives other teams the upper hand. Lou might have something imminent regarding a D trade that's making him hold out on finalizing all these other deals.

 

Brunner's camp said something along the lines last week of "Deal is close, just a few moving parts before it gets finalized." I think he's a Devil.

 

now that the Jagr thing is not even announced yet. Its even more believable that it could be the case... very interesting. Why else would Lou not announce it?

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I just want something already. Until the announcement, I am stuck doing actual work at work. This madness must stop.

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So what does the Jagr signing say about the theory that we're waiting on Henrique's contract to announce the Brunner signing?

 

I agree that the fact that it has been so quiet has "Devils" written all over it, but adding another forward doesn't make much sense now.

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Agreed nessus.  There will be 15 forwards on the roster when Henrique signs, and only one (Gionta) has a two-way contract. 

 

Doubtful they'll sign another forward now.

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@DebPlacey Good stuff. I'm told the Brunner signing is about to be announced at 3.8m at 2 years.

 

edit: ah nvm that.clearly fake

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@DebPlacey Good stuff. I'm told the Brunner signing is about to be announced at 3.8m at 2 years.

 

 

I hope this is true

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