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So Wiercoch is their version of Gelinas basically? (offensive D-man who the coach **** cans for every mistake)

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So Wiercoch is their version of Gelinas basically? (offensive D-man who the coach **** cans for every mistake)

 

I think Wiercoch is much better than Gelinas right now. May not have that level of offensive upside but so much better defensively. There was no reason why he was getting scratched which made the whole thing befuddling. Another weird thing is the Sens have a young defenseman in Jared Cowan that has to be up there as the worst defenseman in the NHL this season. He's been in the lineup pretty much all season.

 

Deboer gets a bad rap for the Gelinas stuff. I loved Gelinas at first as much as anyone when he came in and took this team by storm. But the defense slipped and then the when the offense slipped, it almost became impossible to play him. He came back, and it seemed like he got some atrocious advice about playing defense from Stevens. It was basically try and defend by crushing everyone because you are really big, so that must be how you play. Bad advice.

 

I would say over the last few months he has played as poorly as any defenseman that I can remember in a Devils uniform. Obviously, he brings a ton of value to the PP.  Hopefully, he can figure things out because the Devils really need his offense next year.

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Gelinas went downhill the minute Larsson got hurt.  I was hoping reuniting them would get Gelly's game back but it hasn't happened.  He probably needs the offseason to have a mental reset.

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Gelinas' confidence is noticeably shot, at least to me. He's rushing plays, taking his eye off the puck, and even his accuracy is down. Everything he was doing right early, he's doing wrong now. I don't know if it was just that he was on a high due to being called up and that has faded or if it's because of Pete's handling of rookies and having to worry about every little mistake or if it's neither and he's just not that good. I guess we'll find out next season.

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I think Wiercoch is much better than Gelinas right now. May not have that level of offensive upside but so much better defensively. There was no reason why he was getting scratched which made the whole thing befuddling. Another weird thing is the Sens have a young defenseman in Jared Cowan that has to be up there as the worst defenseman in the NHL this season. He's been in the lineup pretty much all season.

Deboer gets a bad rap for the Gelinas stuff. I loved Gelinas at first as much as anyone when he came in and took this team by storm. But the defense slipped and then the when the offense slipped, it almost became impossible to play him. He came back, and it seemed like he got some atrocious advice about playing defense from Stevens. It was basically try and defend by crushing everyone because you are really big, so that must be how you play. Bad advice.

I would say over the last few months he has played as poorly as any defenseman that I can remember in a Devils uniform. Obviously, he brings a ton of value to the PP. Hopefully, he can figure things out because the Devils really need his offense next year.

nevermind my post, I'm going to create a separate thread for it

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go flyers, go bruins....only games we need to care about today

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1-0 Columbus, end of 40

 

3-1 Toronto, 17:00 2nd

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zero help from boston, zero help from philly. why would we? they're only better than their opponents!?!

 

ah, a win helps NJ? Into the tank we go...

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Cue Mike Brown to tell us how imposing Columbus's schedule is as they keep getting points.

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fvck this, Toronto will probably win 6 straight now to finish the season.

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Philly and Boston know what they're doing. Operation fvck over NJ

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i dont think it really matters who wins these other games nj is not going to do enough to help themselves anyway.

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i dont think it really matters who wins these other games nj is not going to do enough to help themselves anyway.

 

Exactly, plus Philly is playing a fine game. 30 shots on BOBROVSKY! with 10 minutes to play. Boston is on a 2nd game of a back-to-back playing their backup.

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parise head shot, and here we go

 

edit oh well nevermind then

 

the guy has been pretty damn durable

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Just saw the scores. Done.

and the 30th pick

DAMN

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Yep...5pts back, 6 games left. It's officially over and now tomorrow means nothing. It's a shame, but it is what it is. Gonna be a long offseason. The Mets season is already over lol so now I just can't wait til the Giants start playing.

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We can still get to three if we win and the Jackets lose to Chicago tomorrow but yeah the chances are getting more remote now considering Chicago keeps losing its star players by the day and the Jackets have the Isles and Phoenix at home right after.

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its going to be the first time since 1987 (27 years) that the devils will miss the playoffs consecutive years .  Yes it sucks this year, but besides the red wings who just get in every year, how many other teams can say this?

 

and 3 of those misses belong to this idiot of a coach

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What a game by BOBROVSKY!

You're a loose cannon BOBROVSKY

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its going to be the first time since 1987 (27 years) that the devils will miss the playoffs consecutive years . Yes it sucks this year, but besides the red wings who just get in every year, how many other teams can say this?

and 3 of those misses belong to this idiot of a coach

Actually only two misses will be DeBoer's. 2011 was the MacLean disaster where Lemaire had to mop up.

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i dont think it really matters who wins these other games nj is not going to do enough to help themselves anyway.

 

This. I have been going with this mindset for a solid 3 weeks now. No reason to think otherwise. 

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Columbus is playing well lately so this probably is actually the best case scenario, but let's assume they somehow lose to the Blackhawks, Coyotes, and Lightning in regulation, but beat the Isles, Panthers, and also Dallas (that's a make-up game where they're already up 1-0 when Peverly had his heart problem), that's 3 wins for 6 points which puts them at 91.  We can only afford then to go 5-0-1.  4-1-1 or 4-0-2 which would be tough enough as it is wouldn't even do it  Again, best case scenario for the wild card spot that Detroit occupies is essentially the same, having them go 3-3, assuming losses to Mtl, Stl, and Pit, with wins against Buf (2x) and Car.  That would put them at 92pts, and in that situation we'd have to win all 6 of our remaining games.  So...unless one of those teams really tanks and goes 1 or 2 wins in their last 6, and we get 4 or more, then we're toast.  The thing no one erally sees is that we have a lot of the same opponents as them (NYI, BUF, FLA), but the difference being that we lost to them because we're not respected and they played hard against us because they knew they could be us, yet when Det or Cmb plays them they will likely falter and lose because they know they're inferior to them. 

 

What would be hilarious is if after the weekend is over and we manage to beat Wsh and Car, and Columbus loses to Chi and NYI, we'd be 1 point out of a playoff spot with a week to go, but Columbus has a pretty weak schedule to finish the year and although ours is weak too, there's a much better chance of them holding that would-be 1pt lead or even extending it than there is of us continuing to somehow put together a 3+ game win streak which we haven't done all year.

 

The worst part of it all is, I truly want to hang on to hope and like an idiot I am going to continue watching the games as the season winds down, praying for a miracle, but in all honesty and reality I actually have almost no hope or faith whatsoever that they'll even make this a photo finish.  5pts seems insurmountable now and frankly I could see this team letting out it's last gasp of air and losing tonight, and basically washing away the last few games, to end up finishing the season 8-9 points behind the final wildcard team.

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Columbus is playing well lately so this probably is actually the best case scenario, but let's assume they somehow lose to the Blackhawks, Coyotes, and Lightning in regulation, but beat the Isles, Panthers, and also Dallas (that's a make-up game where they're already up 1-0 when Peverly had his heart problem), that's 3 wins for 6 points which puts them at 91.  We can only afford then to go 5-0-1.  4-1-1 or 4-0-2 which would be tough enough as it is wouldn't even do it  Again, best case scenario for the wild card spot that Detroit occupies is essentially the same, having them go 3-3, assuming losses to Mtl, Stl, and Pit, with wins against Buf (2x) and Car.  That would put them at 92pts, and in that situation we'd have to win all 6 of our remaining games.  So...unless one of those teams really tanks and goes 1 or 2 wins in their last 6, and we get 4 or more, then we're toast.  The thing no one erally sees is that we have a lot of the same opponents as them (NYI, BUF, FLA), but the difference being that we lost to them because we're not respected and they played hard against us because they knew they could be us, yet when Det or Cmb plays them they will likely falter and lose because they know they're inferior to them. 

 

What would be hilarious is if after the weekend is over and we manage to beat Wsh and Car, and Columbus loses to Chi and NYI, we'd be 1 point out of a playoff spot with a week to go, but Columbus has a pretty weak schedule to finish the year and although ours is weak too, there's a much better chance of them holding that would-be 1pt lead or even extending it than there is of us continuing to somehow put together a 3+ game win streak which we haven't done all year.

 

The worst part of it all is, I truly want to hang on to hope and like an idiot I am going to continue watching the games as the season winds down, praying for a miracle, but in all honesty and reality I actually have almost no hope or faith whatsoever that they'll even make this a photo finish.  5pts seems insurmountable now and frankly I could see this team letting out it's last gasp of air and losing tonight, and basically washing away the last few games, to end up finishing the season 8-9 points behind the final wildcard team.

 

 

 

http://www.sportsclubstats.com/NHL/Eastern/Metropolitan/NewJersey.html

 

Even with 92 points it shows slightly under 80% chance to get in. We would have to go 6-0-0. I don't see this team stringing together 6 wins.

 

Also, you are not an idiot for continuing to watch the games. I will watch them too even though I have already come to terms with the fact that we are not making the playoffs. Support your team through the good and bad, etc...yadda yadda yadda. Nothing wrong with that. 

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Philly and Boston know what they're doing. Operation fvck over NJ

 

Why would anyone even care about New Jersey?... Honestly, I look at Columbus' roster and system, and New Jersey's roster and system, and if I'm Philly or Boston, I'd want to play New Jersey. You think they're somehow scared of the team that lost to the Isles and Sabres in the past 6 days?

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