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Well the thing is, this team can't afford to have a bad season this year.  No first rounder puts an immense amount of pressure on Lou this year.  I was expecting a slow start this year because of all the new faces.  And thankfully we play in a weak division this year.  Other than Pittsburgh, the entire division is up for grabs.  I still don't think the Isles, Canes, Flyers, and BJ's are better than the Devils.  I think the Rangers, Devils, and Caps are all gonna be fighting for those 2, 3, and 4 spots.

 

Read my post...I didn't say anything about a bad season being acceptable.  I said I expect a slow start.  Kind of makes sense, considering the number of new bodies in the lineup and the rough schedule. 

 

Can't really make a case for the Devils having an eye-friendly record through 23 games, but they CAN put themselves in a position to recover.  That's all I'm asking for.  Something along the lines of 9-9-5, 9-11-3...that leaves 59 games (with 8 more home games than road games) to get it going.  If the team makes the kind of progress I think they can, I think they'll be OK, re: a playoff spot.

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Read my post...I didn't say anything about a bad season being acceptable.  I said I expect a slow start.  Kind of makes sense, considering the number of new bodies in the lineup and the rough schedule. 

 

Can't really make a case for the Devils having an eye-friendly record through 23 games, but they CAN put themselves in a position to recover.  That's all I'm asking for.  Something along the lines of 9-9-5, 9-11-3...that leaves 59 games (with 8 more home games than road games) to get it going.  If the team makes the kind of progress I think they can, I think they'll be OK, re: a playoff spot.

 

I wasn't calling you out or anything.  I'm hoping by the 20th game or so they'd have a record over .500 though.

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well that was frustrating...

 

its been said but our guys are gonna have to step up, new guys comes in in a new system / new team etc and they score? no excuse for Zajac, Henrique etc etc those guys have to start putting it in.

 

I dont think Brodeur was that horrible though all around, the d let guys walk in with room to shoot all night long and he was solid for most of the night. How many times are we gonna see a pass from the blueline on the right side going to a guy wide open on the left side on our blueline wide open to step in and take a shot? we've seen it like 15 times in 3 games.

 

Another loss while the guys are gelling its fine... but im worried about them digging a hole they cant get out of like 3 years ago

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I wasn't calling you out or anything.  I'm hoping by the 20th game or so they'd have a record over .500 though.

 

Have you seen the first twenty games of the season?  This is a nightmarish schedule until about Thanksgiving, they really can't afford to be blowing games like last night.

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Marty seems to be thinking about his 5 hole too much. Maybe the new pads are getting to his head. Look at those two shoot out goals, after being scored 5 hole in the 3rd like 2 or 3 times, he over compensated. If he kept his block up instead of down to cover the 5 he would have made those two saves in the shootout.

too be fair those moves were done perfectly, and they're not easy shots to stop, especially when you commit to the fake

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well that was frustrating...

 

its been said but our guys are gonna have to step up, new guys comes in in a new system / new team etc and they score? no excuse for Zajac, Henrique etc etc those guys have to start putting it in.

 

I dont think Brodeur was that horrible though all around, the d let guys walk in with room to shoot all night long and he was solid for most of the night. How many times are we gonna see a pass from the blueline on the right side going to a guy wide open on the left side on our blueline wide open to step in and take a shot? we've seen it like 15 times in 3 games.

 

Another loss while the guys are gelling its fine... but im worried about them digging a hole they cant get out of like 3 years ago

 

Like I said though, it's a weak division.  3 years ago, we had the entire conference to worry about.

 

Have you seen the first twenty games of the season?  This is a nightmarish schedule until about Thanksgiving, they really can't afford to be blowing games like last night.

 

True, but the easy games will come eventually.

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I wasn't calling you out or anything.  I'm hoping by the 20th game or so they'd have a record over .500 though.

 

I am too, but I'm being realistic.  That schedule is a real bitch...the kind that can kill a team's season before it really gets underway, especially for a team trying to figure itself out. 

 

If they can get through it both reasonably healthy and with a not-too-bad record, I'll take.   

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too be fair those moves were done perfectly, and they're not easy shots to stop, especially when you commit to the fake

 

Shootouts are crap shoots imo.

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I am too, but I'm being realistic.  That schedule is a real bitch...the kind that can kill a team's season before it really gets underway, especially for a team trying to figure itself out. 

 

If they can get through it both reasonably healthy and with a not-too-bad record, I'll take.   

 

Well if the hardest part of the schedule is the first quarter of the season, I'll take it.  It means by the time the team does gel, they'll have the lesser teams to deal with.

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I fell asleep when it was 3-0. Woke up this morning confident in a victory and launched the official NJ Devils app brought to you by Modells and Pfister energy and it said 5-4 EDM F/SO. I muttered to myself "this app sucks this can't be right." Confirmed on TSN. :headless chicken:

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max:

 

The problem with your claim is that only one of the Oilers goals tonight was scored in transition (the 4th one).  The other 3 were off possession in the offensive zone.  I know the Devils have trouble with transition but tonight this wasn't really their problem.

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most frustrating fan in the world nj devs fans.... fvckiing bullsh!t! at least we pllay tonight

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Our "4th line" is -11 through 3 games....ouch!

 

This is one good sign.  With the 4th line performing badly on the stat sheet, maybe it'll be time that the Devils' coaching staff realizes that the first 60 games of Stephen Gionta's career aren't what you can expect out of him going forward.  

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Marty seems to be thinking about his 5 hole too much. Maybe the new pads are getting to his head. Look at those two shoot out goals, after being scored 5 hole in the 3rd like 2 or 3 times, he over compensated. If he kept his block up instead of down to cover the 5 he would have made those two saves in the shootout.

 

I thought he only got beat 5 hole on Hall's goal to make it 4-3.  The first was a scrambly rebound out front that beat him glove side (nothing he could do about that one), the second was a shot from the point that beat him low blocker (I think), the third was the goal off the facoff  that beat him high blocker.  IN the shootout, he just got juked out of his pads on both goals which were the same exact move. 

 

 

Our "4th line" is -11 through 3 games....ouch!

 

Gionta was invisible last night.  He needs to be pulled from this lineup.  Bernier I though played ok.  Carter wasn't great.

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Brodeur was very good tonight.  I can't fault any of the goals on him tonight.

 

Goal 1: Net mouth scramble on the pk, puck goes to RNH's stick for an easy tap in goal.

Goal 2: Perfect shot by Ferrence that looked like it hit a Devil's skate.

Goal 3: Perfect snipe by Perron right off a face-off.

Goal 4: Defensive breakdown and Hall with a sick move.

Did you watch the shootout? and the shootout the night before?

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Did you watch the shootout? and the shootout the night before?

 

The shootouts don't mean much to me.  How about our shooters?  They kind of need to score in order to win some shootouts.  

 

And what about the shootout before?  You mean the one against the Isles?  The one where he stonewalled 5 of the 6 shooters?

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Gionta was invisible last night.  He needs to be pulled from this lineup.  Bernier I though played ok.  Carter wasn't great.

 

Fayne needs to be in for Harrold.

Yayo and Olesz should be in for Gionta and Bernier.  Keep Carter because he's been the best player on that line imo.

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I thought he only got beat 5 hole on Hall's goal to make it 4-3.  The first was a scrambly rebound out front that beat him glove side (nothing he could do about that one), the second was a shot from the point that beat him low blocker (I think), the third was the goal off the facoff  that beat him high blocker.  IN the shootout, he just got juked out of his pads on both goals which were the same exact move. 

 

 

 

Gionta was invisible last night.  He needs to be pulled from this lineup.  Bernier I though played ok.  Carter wasn't great.

 

The Ference goal has to be stopped

 

The Hall goal was a breakdown but Marty has to stop going for these pathetic poke check whiffs. He whiffed on Frans Nielsen who slipped it through his 5 hole. Then he does it again

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Fayne needs to be in for Harrold.

Yayo and Olesz should be in for Gionta and Bernier.  Keep Carter because he's been the best player on that line imo.

 

I would argue Bernier is the best player on that 4th line.

 

 

As for the game, it was a complete heartbreaker.  That 4th goal against Brodeur though was complete trash and it was the same goal as the third goal Brodeur let in against the Islanders.

 

Loved what I saw from Brunner, Ryder, Elias and Loki.  Zubrus was completely invisible, liking what I am seeing now from Clowe and Jagr.  Liked the speed and effort from Zajac and Henrique but they have to get going soon with the goals or this will be a long season.

 

As for defense, through 3 games the only defenseman that hasn't pissed me off at 1 point is Andy Greene.  I thought Volchenkov and Salvador played like trash for most of the night and wasn't too happy with Harrold.

 

I really want Gio off this team.  I really want them to bring back up Josefson and see what he can do.

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Even if you choose to not blame Marty for any individual goal, he needs to come up with a big save in that 8 minute stretch. A big save on any of those 4 goals could have switched momentum back to our side. He seemed to completely lose confidence along with everyone else. Old Marty would have had an "i'll just stop the next one" swagger that I did not see last night.

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The Ference goal has to be stopped

 

The Hall goal was a breakdown but Marty has to stop going for these pathetic poke check whiffs. He whiffed on Frans Nielsen who slipped it through his 5 hole. Then he does it again

 

I wonder if the smaller pads have something to do with it.  I know Broduer changed his pads in late December of 2011/Jan of 2012 and suddenly his numbers got better and it seemed like less of these shots were going through him.

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I know this is off topic, but I'm heading into town (currently live in Minneapolis) and was wondering if anyone is selling tickets for the Oct. 29 game against Tampa?

use stubhub its pretty cheap

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Did you watch the shootout? and the shootout the night before?

 

He was bad in the shootout last night.  But he was very good against the Islanders.  Blame our own shooters for crapping the bed there.

 

 

The Ference goal has to be stopped

 

The Hall goal was a breakdown but Marty has to stop going for these pathetic poke check whiffs. He whiffed on Frans Nielsen who slipped it through his 5 hole. Then he does it again

 

 

Agree on the Ference goal.  Nothing he could do about the rebound that RNH scored on.  The Perron goal was a great shot off a wide open chance at the bottom of the circle.  Stoppable, but not very easy.  Hall's you have to blame on the coverage out front, but that is where his style sometimes gets him in trouble.  By swinging for the poke check, he completely opens himself up to the soft 5 hole goals.  

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Well at least Brunner is really good. I think Deboer needs to start using reinforcements. Harrold was horrific and JJ and Olesz would be improvements over Carter and Gionta

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