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2013-2014 Lineup/Roster Thread

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True but I don't think an additional 3-4 minutes is a huge deal.

 

3-4 minutes a game becomes a big deal. Since you play that much more over a longer period of time. You can't score if you're not on the ice. If you consistently take that time away from a better player to give to an inferior one, you will get less goals overall.  

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3-4 minutes a game becomes a big deal. Since you play that much more over a longer period of time. You can't score if you're not on the ice. If you consistently take that time away from a better player to give to an inferior one, you will get less goals overall.  

 

Well you can simply take away minutes from the CBGB line as well.

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Well you can simply take away minutes from the CBGB line as well.

that line averages 10 minutes a game- you want to drop them down to 5 ish? People are already complaining about Pete playing the top lines too much...

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that line averages 10 minutes a game- you want to drop them down to 5 ish? People are already complaining about Pete playing the top lines too much...

 

(technically.. People are complaining way too much all the time) (but that's just me... ) 

(and i'm French.. it's second nature to complain for me ! So.. that speak volume ) 

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(technically.. People are complaining way too much all the time) (but that's just me... )

(and i'm French.. it's second nature to complain for me ! So.. that speak volume )

hey don't be so hard in the french- when I visited Paris I found very little complaining.

Now those french canadiens are another story...

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Good on Pete: Tom Gulitti ‏@TGfireandice

Looking like Cory Schneider will be the starting goaiie for the Devils again Friday vs. Edmonton. Brodeur still on ice. Schneider has left.

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that line averages 10 minutes a game- you want to drop them down to 5 ish? People are already complaining about Pete playing the top lines too much...

 

I'm talking about Loktionov and only Loktionov.  Give Gionta like 8 minutes.  And give Loktionov like 15 minutes.  That way, the whole line can get a good amount of ice time, and not 2/3 of it.

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So it turns out a couple of us here called it.. Lokti got booted off that top unit pretty early on.

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Other then a tap in goal, Loktionov really wasn't playing that well. Boucher will be back up after the Olympic break and NJ will assess if they need to make a move. 

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Other then a tap in goal, Loktionov really wasn't playing that well. Boucher will be back up after the Olympic break and NJ will assess if they need to make a move. 

 

Kind of irrelevant. He got that goal and was decent enough. What more could you ask in 5-6 min of hockey? Once again the mid game line changes did nothing. Stephen Gionta was continuing to throw pucks at teammates' feet and was having trouble corralling a pass, yet he gets moved up to the second line, which everyone knows will never ever ever ever ever ever ever ever ever be a good move. I don't think that line had a good shift after.

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At the very least Gelinas needs to be in the lineup after the Olympic break. This team needs every goal it can possibly get.

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Erat lmfao. I'm following online because I'm not home, I'm gonna need a recap of the Pete presser. TG better fire away.

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At the very least Gelinas needs to be in the lineup after the Olympic break. This team needs every goal it can possibly get.

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Agreed.  We're 0-12 on the PP since sending him down.

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Erat lmfao. I'm following online because I'm not home, I'm gonna need a recap of the Pete presser. TG better fire away.

 

Nothing to recap, they showed three meh questions all from Deb.  Maybe Lou barred the other beat guys from asking anything :P

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Nothing to recap, they showed three meh questions all from Deb.  Maybe Lou barred the other beat guys from asking anything :P

 

LOL. Deb. That's great. This organization has absolutely zero accountability from top to bottom and everyone in it knows it. Brooks was spot on in his article a month or two back. 

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If the Devils struggle to pick up points in 4 games after the break, does Jagr request a trade?

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Randy Miller ‏@RandyJMiller:

Patrkk Elias on if #Devils need to trade for a scorer to reach playoffs. "It seems that way".

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Randy Miller ‏@RandyJMiller:

Patrkk Elias on if #Devils need to trade for a scorer to reach playoffs. "It seems that way".

The idea of a trade at this point is starting to scare me. I'm afraid that Lou still thinks it's 2000 and we're a Mogilny trade away from being a Cup team. Unfortunately he'll end up trading someone like Gelinas, a young player that has provided actual documented help on the offense, for someone like Erat.

My hope among hopes is that Lou gets rid of Salvador. And it's not because I think he's a bad as people think. Even if Salvador is actually a "shut down defenseman", the team has plenty of those guys, and needs to score some fvcking goals. Even the most deluded Salvador advocate realizes he doesn't contribute to that at all.

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The idea of a trade at this point is starting to scare me. I'm afraid that Lou still thinks it's 2000 and we're a Mogilny trade away from being a Cup team. Unfortunately he'll end up trading someone like Gelinas, a young player that has provided actual documented help on the offense, for someone like Erat.

My hope among hopes is that Lou gets rid of Salvador. And it's not because I think he's a bad as people think. Even if Salvador is actually a "shut down defenseman", the team has plenty of those guys, and needs to score some fvcking goals. Even the most deluded Salvador advocate realizes he doesn't contribute to that at all.

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If Lou trades Gelinas for Martin fvcking Erat, I'd be leading the lynch mob to his office. And I'm the biggest Lou guy there is.

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I get that Gelinas' defense needs some work, but our power play really needs help right now. Some PP numbers: Gelinas FF20: 22.9. Greene: 20.1 Zidlicky: 16.4. That's a difference of ~18 unblocked shots per 60 minutes between Gelinas and Zidlicky. Yet Zidlicky got more PP icetime. GF20: Gelinas 3,1 Greene 2,25 Zidlicky 1,97.

 

Zidlicky: 161 minutes, 24 shots on goal.

Greene: 133 minutes, 21 shots on goal.

Gelinas: 94 minutes, 32 shots on goal.

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I think we can agree both Larsson and Gelinas both played their best when they were playing together which I believe they are doing it down in the AHL - at return from the break, it will be a month. So I don't see where the issue could be, given we need some more scoring and shot generation to get those two up here who can help move the puck and get them on net. Of course we'd need to move a D or 2 to do that.

 

I think it's time to trade Zidlicky. Get a pick for him.

 

Greene-Fayne

Larsson-Gelinas

Volchenkov-Merrill

Harrold-Salvador

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I would honestly like to see how he would do in a forward position.. just for a game or two if it doesnt work it doesnt work..I wonder if theyve tried him up front in practice

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I get that Gelinas' defense needs some work, but our power play really needs help right now. Some PP numbers: Gelinas FF20: 22.9. Greene: 20.1 Zidlicky: 16.4. That's a difference of ~18 unblocked shots per 60 minutes between Gelinas and Zidlicky. Yet Zidlicky got more PP icetime. GF20: Gelinas 3,1 Greene 2,25 Zidlicky 1,97.

 

Zidlicky: 161 minutes, 24 shots on goal.

Greene: 133 minutes, 21 shots on goal.

Gelinas: 94 minutes, 32 shots on goal.

 

Thank you!  We agree!  We're 0-12 on the PP since sending him down.  We dropped from 7th in the league to 14th.

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