Jerzey Posted November 14, 2013 Share Posted November 14, 2013 I'm not saying Elias is a saint and can do no wrong. I'm more saying I think he's got some interesting opinions, some of which would probably be surprising. What he's saying in this case isn't really all that controversial, if you think about it...neither player is a teammate of Elias' anymore. Kovy might as well be playing on another planet, and who knows, maybe if Clarkson ever hears about these commetns, he goes out of his way to throw a check at Elias next time the Devils play the Leafs. Not like anything's really coming out of any of this. Supposedly, he was all set to go to the Rangers if Sather had been willing to put a no-trade clause in his contract...Sather refused, so he stayed with the Devils and signed his 7-year, $42 million deal that turned out to be pretty good overall (but was looking pretty shaky after the first two seasons, especially during that 4 goals in 44 GP stretch. Well that would have been tragic. As for his career after playing, I don't see him wanting to be a coach or GM, more of a "special assignment scout". He doesn't even want to be captain. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NewarkDevil5 Posted November 14, 2013 Share Posted November 14, 2013 Well that would have been tragic. As for his career after playing, I don't see him wanting to be a coach or GM, more of a "special assignment scout". He doesn't even want to be captain. He did want to be captain. It was the drama of losing it that I think spoiled that for him. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jerzey Posted November 14, 2013 Share Posted November 14, 2013 He did want to be captain. It was the drama of losing it that I think spoiled that for him. Did they strip him? I don't remember. I though he gave it up to Langs because he didn't want it. I'm probably remembering the whole thing wrong. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NewarkDevil5 Posted November 14, 2013 Share Posted November 14, 2013 Did they strip him? I don't remember. I though he gave it up to Langs because he didn't want it. I'm probably remembering the whole thing wrong. As I recall it Sutter stripped him of it and gave it to Langs. That's the way I remember it, anyway. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Marshall Posted November 14, 2013 Author Share Posted November 14, 2013 I just find it weird and unusual to see Elias tear into Clarkson and the Leafs like that. That doesn't happen all that often, that players comment on other franchises and their players (unless something has happened, like a dirty hit or some other incident). Besides, Clarkson has been saying all the right things about NJ and his time there. I found it very surprising. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
thecoffeecake Posted November 14, 2013 Share Posted November 14, 2013 Sutter went to the media before Elias if I recall, that was the big issue. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The 29th Pick Posted November 14, 2013 Share Posted November 14, 2013 If I remember correctly when Sutter took over as head coach he took away the "C" and said something like "I want to see who steps up and deserves to be the captain, then I'll give the C to that player" I and many got the feeling Sutter didnt like Europeans and or Elias to wear the C Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
caron14 Posted November 14, 2013 Share Posted November 14, 2013 czech and russian dont like each other very much since 1968 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Namelesz Posted November 14, 2013 Share Posted November 14, 2013 There is a reason why I will always wear my #26 jersey......love this man. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mouse Posted November 14, 2013 Share Posted November 14, 2013 I just find it weird and unusual to see Elias tear into Clarkson and the Leafs like that. That doesn't happen all that often, that players comment on other franchises and their players (unless something has happened, like a dirty hit or some other incident). Besides, Clarkson has been saying all the right things about NJ and his time there. I found it very surprising. Eh, Elias isn't spiteful, but he's never been one to pull punches. If he was asked about the contract, he was going to speak his mind. And he didn't say anything that wasn't true. He didn't even say Clarkie was a bad player, just not one worth the money he got. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
devlman Posted November 14, 2013 Share Posted November 14, 2013 Elias and Gionta back at practice. Josefson and Teddy extra forwards. I dont know if I like this...Teddy should not be scratched for Gionta Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Onddeck Posted November 14, 2013 Share Posted November 14, 2013 Wow this was awesome. If clarky takes offense to this(which this being pretty much an attack should be taken as such) then we might see more aggression when we see the leafs Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The 29th Pick Posted November 14, 2013 Share Posted November 14, 2013 Elias and Gionta back at practice. Josefson and Teddy extra forwards. I dont know if I like this...Teddy should not be scratched for Gionta Harrold and Gionta are Pete's boodle boys.......as long as they're alive and under contract......they'll be playing Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Marshall Posted November 14, 2013 Author Share Posted November 14, 2013 Elias and Gionta back at practice. Josefson and Teddy extra forwards. I dont know if I like this...Teddy should not be scratched for Gionta You mean JJ I assume? Their treatment of him and PDBs fetisch for Gionta sickens me. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mike Brown Posted November 14, 2013 Share Posted November 14, 2013 Love Patty! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dmann422 Posted November 14, 2013 Share Posted November 14, 2013 (edited) Lol at Janssen scoring on Marty during shoot out practice. Put him has the anchor next time Pete! Edited November 14, 2013 by dmann422 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
msweet Posted November 14, 2013 Share Posted November 14, 2013 Patty rules. This Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MantaRay Posted November 14, 2013 Share Posted November 14, 2013 Thank you Patty. Not that I needed vindication on my Kovy argument, but to hear it echoed by the leader on this team speaks volumes. He is dead on about Clarkson too. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SterioDesign Posted November 14, 2013 Share Posted November 14, 2013 (edited) Still funny though. I'll obviously get ripped for saying this by the same usual 3-4 guys, but when Patty says something most people agree with here he's the fvcking man and we praise him, but when he says he's not supporting Lou's way of not talking during the season then "he just like to rant" and his opinion doesnt matter then. Also glad the leader of this team is agreeing with me. Edited November 14, 2013 by SterioDesign Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Devil Dan 56 Posted November 14, 2013 Share Posted November 14, 2013 Still funny though. I'll obviously get ripped for saying this by the same usual 3-4 guys, but when Patty says something most people agree with here he's the fvcking man and we praise him, but when he says he's not supporting Lou's way of not talking during the season then "he just like to rant" and his opinion doesnt matter then. Also glad the leader of this team is agreeing with me. Yep Patty said he didn't like it and then promptly re-signed. Twice. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Marshall Posted November 14, 2013 Author Share Posted November 14, 2013 Still funny though. I'll obviously get ripped for saying this by the same usual 3-4 guys, but when Patty says something most people agree with here he's the fvcking man and we praise him, but when he says he's not supporting Lou's way of not talking during the season then "he just like to rant" and his opinion doesnt matter then. Also glad the leader of this team is agreeing with me. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NewarkDevil5 Posted November 14, 2013 Share Posted November 14, 2013 So, um, what record did he shatter? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cgb6397 Posted November 14, 2013 Share Posted November 14, 2013 Ahhhhh I love you Patty Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The 29th Pick Posted November 14, 2013 Share Posted November 14, 2013 I hope Patty plays next game.............and OUR SCHEDULE SUCKS this season Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
devilsrule33 Posted November 14, 2013 Share Posted November 14, 2013 (edited) Thank you Patty. Not that I needed vindication on my Kovy argument, but to hear it echoed by the leader on this team speaks volumes. He is dead on about Clarkson too. You do need vindication and that vindicates nothing. I like Elias a lot, but he's always had some issues with Kovy. And again, while Kovalchuk was the Devils best player (while injured) in their Cup run (the only time they made it out of the 2nd round in a decade), Elias was an absolute ghost and finished 10th in scoring. He was also non-existent in the 2009 and 2010 playoffs. So you can talk about playing at both ends and playing a team system, but you can also talk about results too. Kovalchuk was playing so well that no one had to notice Elias was struggling. The Devils with Kovalchuk got back to the Cup Finals where all the Stevens/Niedermayer-less teams could not. And that's the thing...hate on Kovalchuk for leaving or quitting...hate on the contract given out, but at no point should anyone be arguing the team is better playing a team system with 12 system players or what and not with a player or two with Kovalchuk's skills. You can talk about what the team can do with that money when it is on a budget and Kovy is making 11+ million, sure, but why applaud Elias for talking sh!t about Kovy. Like I said the first time, maybe this is taken out of context, and he said many positive things. Kovalchuk did his thing and made plays. I'll just remember the 2012 playoffs and game 6 against Florida when Kovalchuk got the puck and was considered so dangerous that when he cut in to the center of the ice, two Panthers went to him and he found Zajac with a nice pass for the OT winner. Or Game 3 against the Flyers in OT where he made a hell of a play catching the Flyers changing and finding Pony with a perfect pass. Game 5 against the Rangers. The Devils were imploding in the pivotal game, and Kovy made a huge play forechecking hard on the GWG by Carter...and Game 6 ...his ridiculous finish on the 2nd goal and of course the GWG goal jamming like crazy at the loose puck before Henrique found it for the open net. If he stayed 5 more years...10 more years, there might have been some bad, but I bet a lot of good as well...pretty much like his stay here. But the good was awesome. As for the Clarkson stuff...it's pretty spot on, and I think most people thought the same in the organization, but I bet a bunch were happy for him. I don't think Elias was. Edited November 14, 2013 by devilsrule33 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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