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GDT - 12/23 Devils at Blackhawks

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Cory could be lights out, but if the guys in front of him don't play as well as they do in front of Marty then forget it.

 

That's not a good reason to play Marty over Schneider.  The coach needs to play the better goalie.  The team will start playing better in front of Schneider soon enough.

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He also hasn't proven that he deserves 4-6 starts in a row at this point either. This team can't afford to lose a few games just so we can see if Schneider can get into a rhythm or not. The a season is not as young as you keep insisting on it being:

And this is why I don't envy PDB. Very tough decisions need to be made, and soon.

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Ppl are bagging on cory as if he is the starter on this team. His starts are so sporadic that he is essentially a back up and last time I checked back ups aren't expected to win the vezina. He needs to play more.

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He also hasn't proven that he deserves 4-6 starts in a row at this point either. This team can't afford to lose a few games just so we can see if Schneider can get into a rhythm or not. The a season is not as young as you keep insisting on it being:

 

We're not deep enough into the season to worry about the standings and points right now.  Wait until the 50th game for that.  He needs to be given every opportunity to get in his groove.

 

He does deserve the opportunity to get 5 or 6 consecutive starts.  That's the problem.  Right out of the gate he was being shafted.  Lou didn't give up his 1st round pick for a backup.  He fully intended Schneider to be the number one guy.  He's the more important goalie to this team.

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And this is why I don't envy PDB. Very tough decisions need to be made, and soon.

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Me neither. He can either start one goalie whose GAA and save % is trash but the team somehow finds ways to win with him in net or start a guy who is stopping pucks much better but the team can't seem to win games with him in there on most nights. It's a no win and now the job is even worse when your better puck stopper this year has been not playing well for the last month too.

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We're not deep enough into the season to worry about the standings and points right now.  Wait until the 50th game for that.  He needs to be given every opportunity to get in his groove.

 

He does deserve the opportunity to get 5 or 6 consecutive starts.  That's the problem.  Right out of the gate he was being shafted.  Lou didn't give up his 1st round pick for a backup.  He fully intended Schneider to be the number one guy.  He's the more important goalie to this team.

 

If Cory gets 5 or 6 starts and blows them then we have no shot at a playoff spot.

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We're not deep enough into the season to worry about the standings and points right now. Wait until the 50th game for that. He needs to be given every opportunity to get in his groove.

He does deserve the opportunity to get 5 or 6 consecutive starts. That's the problem. Right out of the gate he was being shafted. Lou didn't give up his 1st round pick for a backup. He fully intended Schneider to be the number one guy. He's the more important goalie to this team.

Lol 50th game? The 2010-11 team didn't start playing until about game 40 and they still ended up outside the playoffs after posting the best second half record in the league. You don't get into the playoffs in the first half but you can sure as hell miss them Edited by DevsMan84

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If Cory gets 5 or 6 starts and blows them then we have no shot at a playoff spot.

 

This is so not true.

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I'm sorry does anyone actually believe marty in net tonight would have made the difference? Would our team have MAGICALLY been a cup contender team with 3 lines of deep scoring?

 

We got out worked by the best team in the league.

 

Marty gave up 4 goals the other night against a Caps team that could very well finish 4th/5th in the worst division in hockey.

 

Get fvcking real people. Cory gives us the best chance to win, either goalie was going to get lit up tonight.

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Lol 50th game? The 2010-11 team didn't start playing until about game 40 and they still ended up outside the playoffs after posting the best second half record in the league. You don't get into the playoffs in the first half but you can sure as hell miss them

 

We're not in the same position as we were in 2010-2011.  We're not gonna be in position by game 41 to be out of the playoff picture.

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Dude this fkin high school where you just get trophies and honorables just for being there.. We need to win.. Cory hasnt showed he can handle five starts

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Dude this fkin high school where you just get trophies and honorables just fof being there.. We need to win.. Cory hasnt showed he can handle five starts

 

He's never been given the opportunity.  He deserves the chance.

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Even with marty tonight we would have lost

 

I agree.  But I'm not sure what is has to do with anything I just said.

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Even with marty tonight we would have lost

agreed doesnt matter who would have been in net the team that we are currently icing would never stand a chance against that skilled hawk team

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cory had a better save % than the opposing goalie

 

holtby had a better sv% than marty

 

how rare is this?

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This game just had too many obstacles to overcome. I would've been surprised if this wasn't the result.

 

4th Game in 6 nights, with travel, this team which skews older with overtime been played a bunch lately.

 

Going in with couple rookies who have never played in the United Center, against a team like that.

It's alright though, but they need these three days off to renergize and come back with a vengence this weekend.

 

Clowe should be in the lineup, and they'll go from there.

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I came to a blank lol.. We need to win games period

 

Yes I know we need to win games.  My whole point is, that both Schneider and Marty are sucking right now.  I get that.  But Schneider is the more important goalie going forward.  Lou gave up his first round pick to Vancouver with the intention of making Cory Schneider our franchise goalie.  Schneider has to be the guy given the net.  When he's at the top of his game, he's significantly the better goalie than Brodeur.  Brodeur can still be a good goalie, so don't get me wrong.  But Schneider is the guy we invested a lot in, and has to be the guy going forward.  Schneider gives the Devils a better chance to win games.

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This game just had too many obstacles to overcome. I would've been surprised if this wasn't the result.

 

4th Game in 6 nights, with travel, this team which skews older with overtime been played a bunch lately.

 

Going in with couple rookies who have never played in the United Center, against a team like that.

It's alright though, but they need these three days off to renergize and come back with a vengence this weekend.

 

Clowe should be in the lineup, and they'll go from there.

 

I like your rational thinking.  lol

 

But I agree with all of this.  The rookies all made some bad mistakes tonight.  It's a good learning experience though.  I can live with the loss tonight.  I wish they had put forth a better effort though.  We're 4 points behind Toronto, 7 points behind Detroit, 6 points behind Washington, and only 1 point behind Philly.  We shouldn't get too crazy over this loss.

 

Oddly enough, the game was winnable had the team decided to show up.  Chicago was pretty flat too imo.

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He's never been given the opportunity.  He deserves the chance.

 

Why does he deserve the chance? He needs to earn it by winning games. 

 

Cory - 17GP  4-8-5, 2.20 GAA, .910, 2 SO

 

Marty - 21GP 11-8-2, 2.38 GAA, .902, 3 SO

 

While Cory's numbers are better, they aren't better by enough to offset the win column. Cory has to gain the confidence of his coach and team mates, and he has to seize his opportunities. 

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Well, this weekend we have a back to back against two teams that the team, if they want to be considered a team that even deserves to be in the conversation... "should" beat. Cory will obviously get one of these games. I'd even like to see him get both games because I think that's a better guage of what he's dealing with right now. Cory's lost his last three to some Stanley Cup contenders. Pittsburgh, Anaheim, Chicago. Marty's past three opponents haven't been on this level. If Cory struggles against the Jackets or Isles... then yes, we should probably be worried.

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The fact that we only managed 12 shots should be the main topic in this thread, not Schneider's performance.

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The fact that we only managed 12 shots should be the main topic in this thread, not Schneider's performance.

 

The problem is this is now the 4th or 5th time a trainwreck game has taken place with him in net

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As I said at the trade.  It's Marty's job until Cory takes it.  Cory has not taken it.  Pete has tried, but Cory just hasn't.  Marty is streaky, but Marty is winning.  This isn't baseball where your offense is not affected but pitching,  Marty plays the puck more.  Cory while getting better isn't on the same page with he D all the time.  Blame the rookies a bit casue Marty hasn't been on the same page with them a couple times, but Cory just doesn't help himself when he's out of his crease.  And he stops play too often, Marty just has a better feel for wheat the team needs.  

 

 

Marty would be starting goalie if the devs played playoffs right now,

 

All that being said, was just an off night.  Cory will be the goalie of the future,  Whether that future is next season or by the end of this season is up to Cory stepping up when Marty goes in one of his bad streaks.  Cause if Marty is playing well, it's Marty's job and he deserves it.  

 

And if it's like now and both aren't on their A game, it's still Marty's job.  Cory is the future, but Marty has been here 20 fvcking years which is why their is so much Cory trolling tonight because of the double standard with some posters that have to take shots every game towards Marty even when when he wins. 

 

 

As for tonight,  one of a few bad games of the year.  I would be much more worried if they haven't played every other top team well.  3 in 4 nights, 4 in 6 nights,  road,, xmas break,  Didn't think it started bad, but once there was, the fight wasn't there.  again, don't come back from down 2 last game, more worried, but the team has had the heart most of the year.  so to quote AEN 'what, me worry?'

 

teddy look like he will have more value on another team,  shows flashes but I just don't see it.  

 

I like jj's game but he needs to show more killer instinct on the kill.  Glad it was back for the team a few games ago cause I don't remember the offensive chances like we've had the previous years under Pete.  I thought jj had a few chance to push but either didn't see it or didn't think it.  i'm not sure which is worse.

 

i really want to see Larsson and Gelly as a pair for every game they are healthy for the next, I don't know, dozen years?  Glad there is the break.  I think he needs to balance his game again,  Gelly has impressed me with his skating,  

 

Whole team has seemed to be skating out of the zone better on the pp.  Different breakouts? more confidence?  Anyone care to explain?

 

Speaking of Cory taking control,  Who is gonna step up to be the clear number 2 line?  Ryder is making his case.  Boucher has the skills and has a more complete game then I was expecting, Hit the post tonight, I think I saw him out there on a shift with Patty and Jagr, Maybe it was just a broken line change but that is getting a young skill player a chance if I've ever seen one.

 

took 5 of a tough 8

 

6 of the next 8 games are home games.  Take 12 of 16, including payback for tonight's loss and the team will be in a good place.

 

 

 

 

I can just imagine this board next year when Marty signs a 1 year deal while Cory extends for 8 on the same day.   That's how Lou rolls

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