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lol they still have Sharp, Hossa, Keith, Seabrook and a host of other good role players.

 

In other words, they're pretty much the Devils. Give maybe a slight edge in skill. Taking those two away from that lineup alters them dramatically because they are both legit franchise players.

 

Sharp and Hossa don't exactly play with Handzus now do they? 

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If Schneider has a strong game tomorrow and isn't in net against Philly I'll be irate

In other words, they're pretty much the Devils. Give maybe a slight edge in skill. Taking those two away from that lineup alters them dramatically because they are both legit franchise players.

Sharp and Hossa don't exactly play with Handzus now do they?

Slight edge in skill. Hahaha.
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The Devils didn't have Toews and Kane from losing, but they had Parise and Kovalchuk. You can see the Devils talent level since they left regardless of contracts, money and how you view them. I'd rather have Toews and Kane then Parise and Kovalchuk anyday but i guess all things being relative, perhaps the Hawks would be what the Devils are now with having to find stop gaps, make over payments on FA's and sign mid level players. Top talent is tough to replace as it is and true franchise players very rarely get to free agency and when they do (or some overrated version of one), they get Parise-like contracts. It's all about building from within and unfortunately that comes from losing.

  I think we're basically agreeing... The only way we get a toews or a Kane is to stink and select the right player in the right draft. For instance, if Chicago had the third pick in the 2005 draft instead of the 2006 draft they probably wind up with jack Johnson instead of toews. (They did have the 7th overall that year and picked skille, who has amounted to nothing so far) basically, look at Edmonton now. They're a laughing stock and the butt of jokes but eventually the blind chicken finds the egg and in then years someone will say "boy I wish we had the oilers talent"- we'll yeah, you can have it, but you have to suck and eventually get lucky to get it.

And on a side note parise is not on the same level as toes and Kane who are both probably top ten nhl forwards.

lol they still have Sharp, Hossa, Keith, Seabrook and a host of other good role players.

I never said they we're crap without those two but do you think they are championship contenders if you take them off the team?

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Who are we to say no? They have scoring from Every angel outside of those two and their defense is good enough. They have five or six stars in that team.

I think we're basically agreeing... The only way we get a toews or a Kane is to stink and select the right player in the right draft. For instance, if Chicago had the third pick in the 2005 draft instead of the 2006 draft they probably wind up with jack Johnson instead of toews. (They did have the 7th overall that year and picked skille, who has amounted to nothing so far) basically, look at Edmonton now. They're a laughing stock and the butt of jokes but eventually the blind chicken finds the egg and in then years someone will say "boy I wish we had the oilers talent"- we'll yeah, you can have it, but you have to suck and eventually get lucky to get it.

And on a side note parise is not on the same level as toes and Kane who are both probably top ten nhl forwards. I never said they we're crap without those two but do you think they are championship contenders if you take them off the team?

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Anything I need to see here, or does the boxscore tell the story, that the Toews line obliterated the Henrique line, 4-0 on the score sheet, and 11-2 as shots go for the forwards?

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In other words, they're pretty much the Devils. Give maybe a slight edge in skill. Taking those two away from that lineup alters them dramatically because they are both legit franchise players.

 

Sharp and Hossa don't exactly play with Handzus now do they? 

 

Except they're still a playoff team - well maybe in the West it's a little iffy but certainly in the East.  Not a championship caliber one but still one with a lot of talent, certainly more than our team.  Besides you could do that exercise for ANYONE without their two best players.  Christ without Jagr alone we'd probably be a top five lottery team this year...if we had a pick anyway.

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Anything I need to see here, or does the boxscore tell the story, that the Toews line obliterated the Henrique line, 4-0 on the score sheet, and 11-2 as shots go for the forwards?

clowe and ryder are dead weight in the DZ, poor henri was working OT, lol.  get patty back and we have better options against elite offensive talent

 

again at least we were competitive for good long stretchs

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couldnt believe how many hawks fans were in the building last night.. one of them was walking threw the halls screaming lets go black hawks during an intermission.. come into our building and disrespect unreal.

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Top two lines were no good tonight, but that's to be expected - they're playing Chicago, for god's sake.  Bottom two lines were phenomenal, with the 4th line being terrific and earning shifts all the way up to the end.  Reid Boucher, if he continues to play like this, has to play more.  He was NJ's best forward tonight.  I liked what Sislo brought as well.

 

DeBoer gave up because they have a game tomorrow night on the road.  You're way less than 1% to come back in that spot and he folded up the tent because he had already played his best guys enough tonight.

 

Brodeur wasn't good enough either, but again - that's to generally be expected.  Now that Schneider is getting the easy matchup, it's time for him to come up with a 2 or fewer goals against game and begin to take the crease away from Brodeur.  The Sabres will really struggle with the Jagr line - indeed, even though Buffalo was resting tonight, I expect NJ to really put the screws to them.

 

Boucher was not the best forward, not even close.  I don't know what game you watched.  He was better than he's looked in previous games, but that's not saying much.  He looked brutal in a few of the other games with falling all over the ice, losing his position, not recognizing his shooting space.  He rushed quite a few shots last night and blew a couple beautiful opportunities that were gift-wrapped for him.  

 

Plain and simple, he looks raw and nervous.  He needs more time and more experience.  But moreso, he's clearly a guy who if he doesn't score, won't be able to stick regularly in the lineup.

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Boucher was not the best forward, not even close.  I don't know what game you watched.  He was better than he's looked in previous games, but that's not saying much.  He looked brutal in a few of the other games with falling all over the ice, losing his position, not recognizing his shooting space.  He rushed quite a few shots last night and blew a couple beautiful opportunities that were gift-wrapped for him.  

 

Plain and simple, he looks raw and nervous.  He needs more time and more experience.  But moreso, he's clearly a guy who if he doesn't score, won't be able to stick regularly in the lineup.

agreed boucher hasnt been so good i think he needs to go back down .. hes only 18 i hope he can develop a little more

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agreed boucher hasnt been so good i think he needs to go back down .. hes only 18 i hope he can develop a little more

Boucher is 20.

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