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GDT: NJ Devils vs. NY Rangers - 12:30pm on NBC - Stadium Series Editio

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What did Roenick say?

Every time he would interview someone, it was on the Rangers side - and that itself wouldn't be that bad (he's got a job to do), but each time he really kissed them on the ass and especially looked like the biggest Rangers homer when he briefly interviewed some random Rags fans in the 3rd / late 2nd. Hated the vibe I got from that and from most of the broadcast, too.

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It was a bad game. Marty was terrible, and the D was bad. The d has played well recently, but played stupid trying to do too much. If they get back to basics and bench Sal or Volch for one of the kids, that gets easier. Also, Marty has to save some of those breakaways. Almost every hockey games have runs for each team. A good goalie keeps his team in the game during bad runs. Marty did the opposite today. I love him, and wanted him to step it up today (and thought he would), but it didn't happen. They need to ride Cory as hard as they can for the rest of the season. They're still in this thing. Long term, I think they're okay. They have a legit goalie, a core of young d, and a couple bad contracts going away. They need forwards, and this draft would have helped, but forwards are easier to get than d. 

 

Yup well put. I wouldn't bench Volchenkov for a kid for this point, especially the way Gelinas played today, but agree with rest of what you said.

 

 

From what I've seen time and time again, at least as of late, the Devils are ignored by the NHL and hockey media. The lead up to this game was about 94 and tons of former Rags were interviewed. As was pointed out a few pages back, this just became a Rags broadcast.

Look at it this way: If we were say second in the division right now and the Rags were dead last, the spotlight would still be on them and 94 not on us and Marty, 3 cups, lou or game 6 in 2012.

 

Yeah the 94 stuff is frustrating. I understand they are focusing on the Devils/Rangers rivalry and that is an important part of the history, but what happened 20 years ago doesn't really explain why this is an important rivalry TODAY. There have been what 4 playoff series between the two teams since then? The Sean Avery, Martin Brodeur rivalry has a lot more to do with why the two teams hate each other now than Stephane Matteau at least in my opinion.

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I was happy to see in the pregame highlights that they showed clips from most of the Devils-Rangers playoff series, not just the '94 fiasco. They even showed a clip of Marty holding up the Cup. ... I don't recall if they showed anything pre-'94.

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We lead the season series 3-1.  Even if the RanJuhs win the last remaining game, we still will have won the series.  This is used as a tie breaker and if it goes to the wire, we win this tie breaker.  There still is a positive in every negative if you take the time to look.  Remember, we beat them the 1st 3 times this season.  Most live in a "what have you done for me lately" state of mind on this forum.  I, for one, will not mind if we never play outdoors.  I have learned not to react as if the sky is falling.  It is what it is.

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Brodeur can't be defended in any way tonight. There are goalies who stop ALL 6 of what he gave up tonight. There were no incredible tips or 150mph howitzers to the top corner. It was lame trickly garbage.

 

Even on the 3-1 that goals was SOFT. The second Zuccarello goal was a joke as well. Stralman...forget it.

 

Brodeur broke the Devils backs today. This was not a shooting gallery. These were floaters and tricklers.

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I'll comment more on this later.. But I'm sitting in Penn Station right now, thinking this whole thing over.

In general, what an awesome experience. My dad and I had an absolute blast, the atmosphere was amazing (and cold, especially in the 2nd period) but it was great.

Brodeur was awful this game. The D was bad, but he literally didn't make a single big save. Every single dangerous shot got by him.. That second goal was a back breaker. Devils had the momentum, the game was theirs.. And in the blink of an eye, the Rangers had all the momentum.

Positives? JJ looked good, hope he gets a chance. This should solidify Cory as the starter for the rest of the season, no questions asked.

Shame they couldn't get this win in, would've been great to send these a$$holes home without something to cheer about.

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Stepan holding Zajac's stick on his breakaway... No wonder he couldn't get the shot off.

 

Haven't seen a penalty shot (personally) in months and two in the last two outdoor games... hmmmm...

 

I just had this convo with a buddy of mine

 

Very rare to see, and with the one in last night's Ducks/Kings game, and the one today...

 

2 in less than 24 hours

 

Very interesting to say the least

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Penalty shots are not that rare and if Zajac fouled Stepan there (which is what refs assume), that's worthy of a penalty shot

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I just had this convo with a buddy of mine

 

Very rare to see, and with the one in last night's Ducks/Kings game, and the one today...

 

2 in less than 24 hours

 

Very interesting to say the least

 

Remember the days when you saw a penalty shot maybe three times a season? And even then you had to really earn it.

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Remember the days when you saw a penalty shot maybe three times a season? And even then you had to really earn it.

 

I rather have the rule the way it is now.

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Remember the days when hockey games were played like hockey games? If it's up to Bettman the whole game would be a shutout.

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Anyway this is what happens when you don't play well and Brodeur is in net - the Rangers are fast and NJ made a lot of bad plays that helped that speed out.  We can only hope this is what gets the coaching staff to see what a lot of others are seeing - Brodeur is through and should play, at most, in back to back games the rest of the season.  

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I rather have the rule the way it is now.

 

It comes off as being too contrived.

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Brodeur can't be defended in any way tonight. There are goalies who stop ALL 6 of what he gave up tonight. There were no incredible tips or 150mph howitzers to the top corner. It was lame trickly garbage.

 

Even on the 3-1 that goals was SOFT. The second Zuccarello goal was a joke as well. Stralman...forget it.

 

Brodeur broke the Devils backs today. This was not a shooting gallery. These were floaters and tricklers.

I only saw three Rangers goals (4th, 5th, and 6th), but none of those three can be pinned on Brodeur.  The 3 on 1 was a redirection to the opposite side of the net that the pass was going to, that's usually a goal against anybody, and the other two goals were deflected by his own defensemen.  You've had it out for Brodeur for years, so clearly you are having a hard time analyzing these goals objectively or have never actually played goalie yourself, or both.

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As big of.a brodeur.supporter i am schedier needs to b the number 1for the rest of the season if we want to attempt to make the playoffs. That was the worst game ive ever seen him play. He should have stopped at least half.of them. As a.golie myself i.cant fault him on odd man breaks as its not easy on tje goalie (the d and the tram are supposed to prevent them)

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It comes off as being too contrived.

 

I understand.  But I think 5-10 PS's per team per season is ideal.  Back in the day it was too rare imo.

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Brodeur can't be defended in any way tonight. There are goalies who stop ALL 6 of what he gave up tonight. There were no incredible tips or 150mph howitzers to the top corner. It was lame trickly garbage.

 

Even on the 3-1 that goals was SOFT. The second Zuccarello goal was a joke as well. Stralman...forget it.

 

Brodeur broke the Devils backs today. This was not a shooting gallery. These were floaters and tricklers.

 

I agree completely unfortunately.  Yes the defense was horrible, but not one of the goals the Rags scored came off of good scoring chances.  Even the 3 on 1 goal by Zuccarello was more due to bad lateral movement by him.  I'll give him the benefit of the doubt on the Nash goal because of the deflections.  All 6 goals should have been stopped no matter how bad some of the defensive breakdowns were.

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As big of.a brodeur.supporter i am schedier needs to b the number 1for the rest of the season if we want to attempt to make the playoffs. That was the worst game ive ever seen him play and every goal was very stoppable

 

I'd agree with everything there except the last part. They weren't all stoppable. The difference was, the Brodeur of old would have found a way to stop a few of them. He just doesn't have that anymore. It's sad to see, but I hope this helps him realize it's time to end it at the end of the season. 

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I agree completely unfortunately.  Yes the defense was horrible, but not one of the goals the Rags scored came off of good scoring chances.  Even the 3 on 1 goal by Zuccarello was more due to bad lateral movement by him.  I'll give him the benefit of the doubt on the Nash goal because of the deflections.  All 6 goals should have been stopped no matter how bad some of the defensive breakdowns were.

 

How can you say "not one of the Rags goals came off of good scoring chances" and then immediately say "even the 3 on 1". In what league is a 3 on 1 not a good scoring chance?

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I'd agree with everything there except the last part. They weren't all stoppable. The difference was, the Brodeur of old would have found a way to stop a few of them. He just doesn't have that anymore. It's sad to see, but I hope this helps him realize it's time to end it at the end of the season. 

 

I'd like to know which goal was not stoppable.

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The Brodeur of old wouldn't have had to worry about liabilities such as Volchenkov running him over and having his ass facing the shot and the complete and utter slowness of Salvador and the cluelessness of Fayne. As much as Brodeur could have/should have gotten one or two....there's no way he's walking into the HOF behind that kind of defense his whole career.

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How can you say "not one of the Rags goals came off of good scoring chances" and then immediately say "even the 3 on 1". In what league is a 3 on 1 not a good scoring chance?

 

The 3 on 1 wasn't some sort of amazing passing play.  He had enough time to get to his post.  Zuccarello simply snuck the puck in past him.

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I'll comment more on this later.. But I'm sitting in Penn Station right now, thinking this whole thing over.

In general, what an awesome experience. My dad and I had an absolute blast, the atmosphere was amazing (and cold, especially in the 2nd period) but it was great.

Brodeur was awful this game. The D was bad, but he literally didn't make a single big save. Every single dangerous shot got by him.. That second goal was a back breaker. Devils had the momentum, the game was theirs.. And in the blink of an eye, the Rangers had all the momentum.

Positives? JJ looked good, hope he gets a chance. This should solidify Cory as the starter for the rest of the season, no questions asked.

Shame they couldn't get this win in, would've been great to send these a$$holes home without something to cheer about.

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We agree. How bad was the trip home since the game was delayed and therefore probably effected transportation?

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