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The Official 2014 Trade Deadline Thread

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How many times have we seen opposing teams easily break off our forecheck because we don't play the body?  Ruutu will help that.  How about when we're pinned in our defensive zone because we just let the opposition cycle the puck without playing the body?  Ruutu will help that.

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People LOVED the Zidlicky trade...we needed a PP QB in the worst way.  

 

To be fair, I do remember some people lamenting that we gave up on the great Nick Palmieri... :giggle:

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I'm going to assume that's directed at me.  I'm not coming in here with a holier than thou attitude, and certainly not saying you can't voice your opinion -- obviously, yes, that is the point of a forum -- I just can't believe the number of people acting like the freaking apocalypse is coming just because a few guys didn't get moved, and because we basically executed a one-for-one swap, losing a guy who has contributed 12 more points this year than I have.

 

Wrong. So, who are you over on HF for real?

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Doesn't anyone remember what happened when we added Kovy? Cup contenders one minute, collapsing in five in the first round the next.

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Nice smart ass, clearly I said everyone in the top 6 should be running around checking guys. But guess what we play teams like fvcking pittsburg and can be behind in hits. If a team with that top end talent throws their weight around so can we.

 

 

We do lack a certain physicallity right now, and if you wanna be olbivious to that or say its not needed fine, but don't be fvcking twats lashing out at people that think it's an important thing to have.

 

He's slow so I imagine if he steps up on the defensemen they can easily get past him and make him look like a fool.

 

It WAS an important thing to have pre 2005 lockout.  Teams like Pittsburgh are not going out throwing crushing hits every game and winning.  Instead they are winning board battles, they are faster, younger and have better overall talent than ours.

 

We have plenty of toughness.  We just lack talent, speed and youth.

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wrong ruutu

 

Nop it's the right one... Many Ruutu hits Jagr over the year...

But yes.. Tuomo isn't the one that almost kill Jaromir during olympics .. years ago ! 

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Doesn't anyone remember what happened when we added Kovy? Cup contenders one minute, collapsing in five in the first round the next.

 

The malaise had kicked in about a month before the Kovy trade. 

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People LOVED the Zidlicky trade...we needed a PP QB in the worst way.  

I remember the word "senile" being thrown around after Lou made that deal.

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Let's all get some perspective here. Think about the Islanders' GM, Mr. Garth Snow: he basically just traded Matt Moulson, a first round pick, and a second round pick for Sebastian Collberg and a worse second round pick. Collberg better pan out for them or else this team is just choosing to destroy itself...

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One of the weird ones trickling in after the deadline.... Calgary trades Reto Berra to Colorado for a 2nd rd pick.  Strange on both ends... A second is a lot for a guy to sit behind Giguere and Varlamov, and now Calgary is rolling with Kari Ramo and Joni Ortio.

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Pat Brisson, Luongo and Brodeur's representative, said that he had "conversations" regarding Marty's future prior to the trade deadline.  He just came on Toronto's version of ESPN Radio.  He did say, however, Lou did NOT give him authorization to talk to any teams, unlike what Vancouver did with Luongo.

 

He also said that Brodeur was "OK" with still being a Devil.

 

Funny that Brisson seemed very "tentative" when talking about Brodeur and Lamoriello.  It's almost as if he had been given a gag order or had signed a confidentiality agreement with the Devils.  lol.

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Would have liked for us to get Cammalieri or take a stab at Moulson.  Ruutu doesn't fix our scoring.  

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One of the weird ones trickling in after the deadline.... Calgary trades Reto Berra to Colorado for a 2nd rd pick.  Strange on both ends... A second is a lot for a guy to sit behind Giguere and Varlamov, and now Calgary is rolling with Kari Ramo and Joni Ortio.

 

Well, Giguere is probably gone after this year. Berra I can see them resigning.

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Let's all get some perspective here. Think about the Islanders' GM, Mr. Garth Snow: he basically just traded Matt Moulson, a first round pick, and a second round pick for Sebastian Collberg and a worse second round pick. Collberg better pan out for them or else this team is just choosing to destroy itself...

 

That's what happens when you try to nickel and dime people and wait for the "better offer"...you end up getting burned.  And burned they have gotten with the whole Moulson / Vanek situation.  It looks as if Buffalo did amazing things with these two guys...lol.

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Salvador's contract is not really the issue.  He gets paid what an average NHL defenseman gets, and could have been dealt pretty easily after last year, if the idea was to just get rid of him.  It's frustrating that Lou didn't pull the trigger on that, but again, Larsson just has not been great shakes thus far, and you can't count on him to be any sort of savior in the short term.   It's hard to accept the fact that a highly touted prospect doesn't really meet expectations.  It certainly has been for me. 

 

salvador's contract is very much an issue in that it exists. i don't care if he made the league minimum with jake taylor. he got 3 years to clog the roster when the devils had others that were more appropriate for that spot.

 

when larsson has been given a shot, he's been plenty good. admittedly, i am probably higher than actual on him while you are most definitely lower than actual on him but the biggest issue with larsson is that salvador is blocking his path. notice i didn't say volchenkov and that's not because of my bias for him. it's because when volchenkov was signed, his contract made sense (yes it was probably 1 or 2 years too long but that's UFA). the team and roster were setting up for sal to not be resigned. but he had a out of character 6 weeks during the playoffs and here we are 

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Let's all get some perspective here. Think about the Islanders' GM, Mr. Garth Snow: he basically just traded Matt Moulson, a first round pick, and a second round pick for Sebastian Collberg and a worse second round pick. Collberg better pan out for them or else this team is just choosing to destroy itself...

 

Hah, wow I hadn't put this together in my head yet.

 

That's EMBARRASSING.  

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Let's all get some perspective here. Think about the Islanders' GM, Mr. Garth Snow: he basically just traded Matt Moulson, a first round pick, and a second round pick for Sebastian Collberg and a worse second round pick. Collberg better pan out for them or else this team is just choosing to destroy itself...

 

Yup. Worst GM of the day? I'd put Steve Yzerman in there too. He basically let a player bully him into making his contending team weaker. If he were in a hockey market, he would likely be fired.

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Pat Brisson, Luongo and Brodeur's representative, said that he had "conversations" regarding Marty's future prior to the trade deadline.  He just came on Toronto's version of ESPN Radio.  He did say, however, Lou did NOT give him authorization to talk to any teams, unlike what Vancouver did with Luongo.

 

He also said that Brodeur was "OK" with still being a Devil.

 

Funny that Brisson seemed very "tentative" when talking about Brodeur and Lamoriello.  It's almost as if he had been given a gag order or had signed a confidentiality agreement with the Devils.  lol.

Hopefully this is a wake-up call for Marty. The league holds Devan Dubnyk in higher regard right now... just hang 'em up after this year. Please.

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Would have liked for us to get Cammalieri or take a stab at Moulson.  Ruutu doesn't fix our scoring.  

 

No, but he helps our forecheck.  He's also good defensively.

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so the 3 moves im looking at the most today...

 

Rangers got MSL... 

Habs got Vanek...

We got Ruutu...

 

Not an happy day

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salvador's contract is very much an issue in that it exists. i don't care if he made the league minimum with jake taylor. he got 3 years to clog the roster when the devils had others that were more appropriate for that spot.

 

when larsson has been given a shot, he's been plenty good. admittedly, i am probably higher than actual on him while you are most definitely lower than actual on him but the biggest issue with larsson is that salvador is blocking his path. notice i didn't say volchenkov and that's not because of my bias for him. it's because when volchenkov was signed, his contract made sense (yes it was probably 1 or 2 years too long but that's UFA). the team and roster were setting up for sal to not be resigned. but he had a out of character 6 weeks during the playoffs and here we are 

 

That's fair.  But at the same time it's only fair to concede that Salvador and Volchenkov  are part of what is among the best defensive units in the league, if you're going on shots against, goals against, and the penalty kill.  It's hard to say that they have nothing to do with that, or that the shots against and shots/goals for would be significantly better if they were replaced by Larsson. 

 

Don't get me wrong, I am not reflexively in favor of everything Lou does.  Not giving up the 2012 pick could prove to be a minor disaster.  Not being able to sh!t or get off the pot so far as Larsson being in the NHL or not could prove to be hugely counterproductive. 

 

I think we'll really know if Lou has completely lost his marbles this offseason. 

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I'm looking forward to seeing Motormouth Marty's first interview....

Motormouth Marty...lol

 

A guy who, for 20 years, has been pretty much a great example of how to deal with pressure, the spotlight, and the media, is suddenly thought of as a motor mouth?  Jesus, I must be getting old, or people are just getting dumber. 

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Yup. Worst GM of the day? I'd put Steve Yzerman in there too. He basically let a player bully him into making his contending team weaker. If he were in a hockey market, he would likely be fired.

Yzerman has made some stupid deals, and although they might be weaker today, Callahan could still provide useful to them, depending on what he asks for after this season, and those two picks could also end up being HUGE.  A first and at least a second, which could turn into another 1st.  That's a STEAL for a 38yr old forward who has father time stalking him, not to mention the fact that he didn't want to be there and requested the trade himself.

Wrong. So, who are you over on HF for real?

I actually don't post there :)

 

He's slow so I imagine if he steps up on the foward they can easily get past him and make him look like a fool.

Yeah, but guys like Stevens, Daneyko, and Driver weren't exactly fast either. 

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