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2014 UFA Signing Thread

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Can't compare the situations. Sens have lost Alfredsson and Spezza in consecutive off-seasons. They traded a lot for Ryan. They are a cap-floor team right now and won't be anywhere close to a cap team for a very long time if ever under Melnyk. The fanbase has gotten so down on their owner and the team. 

 

They needed to sign Ryan. His camp had the leverage. From that point of view. It's fine.

 

Yeah this, and you don't win anything by having the best deals (of course it can help) but there's soooo many situations that comes in. Stastny wanted to play for the Blues who are stacked while Ryan got traded there and one year away from free agency, the team is somewhat rebuilding and looking for their identity so its really different

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Can't compare the situations. Sens have lost Alfredsson and Spezza in consecutive off-seasons. They traded a lot for Ryan. They are a cap-floor team right now and won't be anywhere close to a cap team for a very long time if ever under Melnyk. The fanbase has gotten so down on their owner and the team. 

 

They needed to sign Ryan. His camp had the leverage. From that point of view. It's fine.

 

There's the PR angle, which counts for something.  I dunno, it just seems like Ottawa is desitned to be in Winnipeg territory.  Not bad enough to get a franchise player in the right draft, not attractive enough to land a big free agent, and not good enough to be particularly relevant.  Locking yourself into Bobby Ryan for a long time when you're in that situation now seems to be bad idea.

 

But I don't follow Ottawa all that closely, so I can't really give anything other than an off the cuff opinion as to how good the organization really is or will be in the future.

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The Devils are close to a cap team and gave a 31-year-old coming off 3 concussions $4.85 million for 5 years. Ryan is only 27 with four 30+ goal seasons to his name. One of them is a real bad contract.

 

Is it a lot of money? Maybe, but probably not anymore than he gets from someone in the off-season. The Sens have $15 million in cap space this year, and before the Ryan signing, they had 2 important UFAs to sign over the next three seasons. Now it's just Methot. There were people speculating that Ryan could ask for $8-8.5 million and the Sens would feel obligated to give it to them, since there is absolutely no one else for them to give money to.

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It's still not a good deal because Ryan is not a play driver and his best years are already behind him.  Please don't be so intellectually reductive as to compare everything to the Ryane Clowe deal either.

 

It's not the AAV.  It's the way the salary works and the length.  Ottawa will be shopping that deal around after 4 years of it - who will buy?

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It's still not a good deal because Ryan is not a play driver and his best years are already behind him.  Please don't be so intellectually reductive as to compare everything to the Ryane Clowe deal either.

 

It's not the AAV.  It's the way the salary works and the length.  Ottawa will be shopping that deal around after 4 years of it - who will buy?

 

 

They just might (and I am not loving the deal at all) but along with Karlsson getting the C, it's a great day for the organization. It shows fans, current players, and potential free agents that they are going to try and be competitive. This team could not afford to lose Ryan this off-season. They gave him market value at least.

 

And Daniel, the Sens will be above Winnipeg. There are a lot of good young pieces to be excited about. They also have a generational talent on defense. 

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So Brodeur is training with a junior team in Gatineau for now...

 

http://www.journaldemontreal.com/2014/10/01/il-sentrainera-en-compagnie-de-juniors

 

What does the article say?  (loose/brief translation)

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What does the article say?  (loose/brief translation)

 

He is practicing/helping coach his son's team, Gatineau. 

 

I mean it is kind of funny, but if he still wants to play, he has to stay in game shape and practice somewhere.

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He is practicing/helping coach his son's team, Gatineau. 

 

I mean it is kind of funny, but if he still wants to play, he has to stay in game shape and practice somewhere.

 

He must be a God to those players (and with good reason).  Gotta be a thrill for them. 

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That article seems to suggest that Lou and DeBoer kicked Brodeur out when we know in reality it was the other way around, but my French is probably not good enough to make that claim.

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That article seems to suggest that Lou and DeBoer kicked Brodeur out when we know in reality it was the other way around, but my French is probably not good enough to make that claim.

 

Wouldn't be surprised if that's how the French Canadians saw it. He's "one of them", so it's understandable. If a New Jersey kid who's a big Devils fan came to prominence playing for the Calgary flames the next 20 years and achieves unparalleled success, I think we'd feel some ownership too haha

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Wouldn't be surprised if that's how the French Canadians saw it. He's "one of them", so it's understandable. If a New Jersey kid who's a big Devils fan came to prominence playing for the Calgary flames the next 20 years and achieves unparalleled success, I think we'd feel some ownership too haha

I guess, but if they watched every Devils game and saw how Marty played last year, I think they'd understand why the organization decided to move on.

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That article seems to suggest that Lou and DeBoer kicked Brodeur out when we know in reality it was the other way around, but my French is probably not good enough to make that claim.

 

My french should be not too bad.. but damn this article was bad written (hopefully i will not make too much english mistakes in my sentence... that would be silly)

Anyway...

 

No the article doesn't rrrreally imply that Lou & DeBoer kicked him out... More than they had a chance to reunite father & son for one pre-season game but decide not to (not sure what game they are talking about .. probably last year) ... But they really don't talk about Marty situation with Devs 

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Wouldn't be surprised if that's how the French Canadians saw it. He's "one of them", so it's understandable. If a New Jersey kid who's a big Devils fan came to prominence playing for the Calgary flames the next 20 years and achieves unparalleled success, I think we'd feel some ownership too haha

This makes me wonder if Johnny Hockey grew up a Devils fan.

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I wonder if he watched the game, I'm sure it was weird for him. I do think it was the right move not to have him anymore but it's been really weird not seeing him so far. Just makes me feel old lol

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According to Chere, Marty was at Prudential Center to talk to Lou. 

 

http://www.nj.com/devils/index.ssf/2014/10/rapid_reaction_devils_1.html

 

Cue the Marty is going to be re-signed hysteria.

 

As soon as that article was posted in the usual FB groups, everyone went apesh!t and saying stuff like "Mawty shoulda been re-signed!  We shoulda nevah left him go!"  SMH.

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As soon as that article was posted in the usual FB groups, everyone went apesh!t and saying stuff like "Mawty shoulda been re-signed! We shoulda nevah left him go!" SMH.

Because the majority of fans that post in groups like that are clueless fvcksticks with a collective hockey IQ approaching 2.

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