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Can we get some line speculation going here please?

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I'm pretty excited about the recent additions (granted I was about Brunner/Ryder as well so wtf do I know), but I am having a hard time figuring out how our lines will actually look after this. Could I get some heavyweights to weigh in? I'll make a feeble first attempt.

 

Zubrus, Zajac, Jagr

Cammalleri, Elias, Havlat

Clowe, Henrique, Ryder

xxx , Rutuu, Brunner

 

 

CBGB?

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If Zubrus gets first line minutes and Henrique gets third, I'll jump out of the window my my apartment.

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Yeah I gotta agree with that sentiment. I think with Ruutu and Cammalleri on the team, Zubrus may end up on the third and fourth line most of the season barring injuries or a slump for Ruutu. Beyond that it's a pretty tricky lineup to figure out.

 

Rutuu, Zajac, Jagr

Cammalleri, Elias, Henrique

Clowe, Josefson, Havlat

 Zubrus,Gionta , Ryder

 

Brunner

 

?

Edited by devils102

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Yeah well, I actually agree myself.. Just can't figure out the lines, hence this post. :P

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i think its evident that havlat will be playing with elias. i wonder if cammalleri will be first line or not

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Cammalleri-Zajac-Jagr
Henrique-Elias-Havlat
Clowe-Josefson-Ruutu/Ryder/Brunner
Carter-Gio-Zubrus
Bernier

Greene-Merril
Gelinas-Larsson
Salvador-Zids

Here's why.  Cammalleri will add some speed to the possession game that Jagr and Zajac have shown they can play.  Camms can also help that line with finishing and I think they'll do a lot of damage.  May have to worry about defensive responsibility, but Zajac has shown he can really carry a line defensively.  Henrique and Elias are another pairing that you want to keep together.  Henrique put up 25 goals last year playing a lot with Elias, add in Marty Havlat and hopefully the chemistry is there.  I'd realy like to see Yayo start out the season as a 3rd line center.  He can win draws, is a responsible defensive player and hopefully this is his year.  Clowe can play with Zajac and Jagr as well, but that's a whole lot of slow on one line.  Then you have Ruutu as well.  That's a 3rd line that can check, score(dear god hopefully), and when either Clowe or Havlat goes down due to injury, we have Brunner and Ryder who can jump into spots.  At least with how the roster stands right now.  I'm hoping Carter comes back but I have a feeling the Rangers are in on him, but I like Gio, Carter and Zubs for the fourth line.  They basically just have to not be scored on a lot.  Zubrus gives the line size, and can play physical like Carter and Gio.  It might be a stretch to get him to do that with how his body is breaking down, but it would be great if he can kind of fall into that role.  The defense speaks for itself and is pretty set.  There will be growing pains, but I think Merril and Larsson are very ready an will be okay.  Gelinas hopefully can perform in limited minutes with Salvador, who can be that fall back guy for Gelly and hopefully teach Gelinas how to be more sound defensively.  I think that is in Sal.  
 

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would harrold be our 7th defenseman

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i think its evident that havlat will be playing with elias. i wonder if cammalleri will be first line or not

Yeah, definitely.

I think it's too early to project lines as I doubt we go into camp with this roster. However, there are things I would like to see:

Henrique playing wing - he's much better there

Zubrus for PK and 4th line only.

Havlat playing with Elias

Cam given the first crack to play with Jagr and Zajac

Ruutu given the next shot if that doesn't work out

That said, I really do think Lou is trying to pry Kane away from Winnipeg. Give them a first, a defensemen of their choice, Ryder/Brunner, and Boucher if necessary. Ryder gives them a live body and someone who could score 20 off the bat.

Kane Zajac Jagr

Cam Elias Havlat

Henrique Ruutu Clowe

Zubrus Gionta Bernier

Brunner

Swap Havlat and Henrique if Havlat struggles mightily

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Yeah, definitely.

I think it's too early to project lines as I doubt we go into camp with this roster. However, there are things I would like to see:

Henrique playing wing - he's much better there

Zubrus for PK and 4th line only.

Havlat playing with Elias

Cam given the first crack to play with Jagr and Zajac

Ruutu given the next shot if that doesn't work out

That said, I really do think Lou is trying to pry Kane away from Winnipeg. Give them a first, a defensemen of their choice, Ryder/Brunner, and Boucher if necessary. Ryder gives them a live body and someone who could score 20 off the bat.

Kane Zajac Jagr

Cam Elias Havlat

Henrique Ruutu Clowe

Zubrus Gionta Bernier

Brunner

Swap Havlat and Henrique if Havlat struggles mightily

It would be the 2015 first and I don't know if any team is going to give that up lightly.  I just don't see a big trade like that happening.  You really hurt the teams defense if you give up one of our young Dmen.  I can see Brunner or Ryder being traded for a 2nd or 3rd, but that's probably stretching it.  I think this is the year where the Devils want to actually grow and develop their youth, not trade it away.  They had to do it in 06-07 when Parise, Zajac, and Martin were emerging players.   

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Kane is the antithesis of everything the Devils believe in.

 

someone's been reading too much from the Winnipeg media 

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So was Kovalchuk

 

From a playing style, sure. By all accounts Kovalchuk was a good teammate.

 

Lou will never acquire Kane.

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From a playing style, sure. By all accounts Kovalchuk was a good teammate.

 

Lou will never acquire Kane.

Never say never.  I'm sure people would have been saying the same thing if someone ran the possibility of Kovy coming to New Jersey by this board.  I wouldn't put it past Lou, but we don't have the assets to acquire Kane.  Lou isn't going to give up any of the young defenseman, minus Gelinas.  

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If Zubrus gets first line minutes and Henrique gets third, I'll jump out of the window my my apartment.

I'll do you one better and jump off the roof of mine.

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Kane is the antithesis of everything the Devils believe in.

Yeah I think Lou has an eye on Winnipeg, but I think its Blake Wheeler that's the target. Lou tried signing him when he was a college free agent, and he's the type of player Lou loves. Whether he can get him or not is another story, but that's the guy I believe he's after if we're gonna make a trade. Edited by MadDog2020

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Yeah I think Lou has an eye on Winnipeg, but I think its Blake Wheeler that's the target. Lou tried signing him when he was a college free agent, and he's the type of player Lou loves. Whether he can get him or not is another story, but that's the guy I believe he's after if we're gonna make a trade.

I could see Wheeler coming here before Kane.  He wouldn't require as much at least.  Send Ryder, a high pick, and one of our young defenseman.  Boom, we have another winger who can pot 30 goals.  

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Havlat should play with Elias until he proves he can't. Cammalleri will play with Zajac and Jagr.

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Here's what I think would make the team most balanced 

Cammalleri-Zajac-Jagr
Ruutu-Henrique-Ryder
Clowe-Elias-Havlat
Zubrus-Josefson-Brunner

There's a solid physical presence on each line, as well as a decent finisher.

Edited by Jerseydevils0324

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I'll do you one better and jump off the roof of mine.

I live 25 floors up. I think I make the biggest splat. Jerk. :P

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I could see Wheeler coming here before Kane. He wouldn't require as much at least. Send Ryder, a high pick, and one of our young defenseman. Boom, we have another winger who can pot 30 goals.

On the contrary- Wheeler wouldn't be a cheap expenditure. He's a very good player. He'd cost a premium. Edited by MadDog2020

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If you are doing lines without Gionta being penciled in for 82 games (if healthy), you aren't being realistic.

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Okay, my shot:

 

Cammalleri-Zajac-Jagr

 

Has to be this at the get-go unless it just doesn't work in practice.  Jagr will get Cammalleri 30 goals if they both stay healthy.

 

Ruutu-Elias-Havlat

 

I don't love this, but I don't see much choice off the jump.  I don't like Clowe with Havlat.  I don't like Clowe with Elias, either.

 

Clowe-Henrique-Ryder

 

Clowe Ryder worked until it didn't, and these guys need someone with speed playing with them.  I liked Clowe with Brunner but I think they will keep Ryder and let Brunner go wherever he ends up.

 

Zubrus-Gionta-Bernier

 

Bernier'll probably start out the opening night RW, but he could easily be replaced by someone else.  Zubrus jumps in whenever anyone in the top 9 gets hurt.

 

EX:  Josefson, Sislo

 

Josefson starts out in the press box if he's even on the team - he might still sign elsewhere.  Sislo makes for a good 14th forward to start the year.

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Our lineup should be

 

Cammy-Zajac-Jagr

Havlat-Henrique-Elias

Ruutu-Zubrus-Brunner

Bernier-Josefson-Gionta

 

(get rid of ryder)

If we have injury we can put brunner on a second line and or call up Boucher/Matteau

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