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2014 Rookie Camp

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From Nhl scout, Mike Morreale's, Twitter:

A few scouts have told me Devils 1st-Rd pick John Quenneville reminds them of Jason Pominville. He's very quick; obvious in drills here

 

J. ______ville  is an obvious reminder :) 

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Don't want to self-promote but rather than type everything out again, here is a post I put up over at ILWT on the invitees. I apologize if I missed anything or rambled on, the list came out so late I was writing it in the middle of the night. Mike Morreale of NHL.com has a lot of tweets on the 1st day of action of camp. As usual Tom Gulitti's twitter and blog are great resources for info. Also the Devils YouTube channel is posting video and interviews.

 

The interesting invitees at camp in my opinion are Jayden Hart, Matt Needham, and Roberts Lipsbergs.

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From Nhl scout, Mike Morreale's, Twitter:

A few scouts have told me Devils 1st-Rd pick John Quenneville reminds them of Jason Pominville. He's very quick; obvious in drills here

ah speed we need that

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Don't want to self-promote but rather than type everything out again, here is a post I put up over at ILWT on the invitees. I apologize if I missed anything or rambled on, the list came out so late I was writing it in the middle of the night. Mike Morreale of NHL.com has a lot of tweets on the 1st day of action of camp. As usual Tom Gulitti's twitter and blog are great resources for info. Also the Devils YouTube channel is posting video and interviews.

 

The interesting invitees at camp in my opinion are Jayden Hart, Matt Needham, and Roberts Lipsbergs.

Thanks Fiesty. Good info

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Who's the early favorite to be the first D injury call up from Albany? Seniority would say helgeson or Burlon, no? Or do we think they'll go right to severson?

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I gotta say, TG is doing a fantastic job so far with the camp.

 

Lots of info, pics, blog entries, etc.  Great stuff.

 

..especially since, you know, fans aren't allowed in  :horse:

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Who's the early favorite to be the first D injury call up from Albany? Seniority would say helgeson or Burlon, no? Or do we think they'll go right to severson?

 

Burlon's not signed to a contract yet.  Last year it was Helgeson.  I think they are going to sign someone for Albany and that guy would be the first call up if a vet got hurt.

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Burlon's not signed to a contract yet.  Last year it was Helgeson.  I think they are going to sign someone for Albany and that guy would be the first call up if a vet got hurt.

helegson and severson sure are getting a lot of publicity (per the link i posted above). on the front page of nhl.com in fact

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Who's the early favorite to be the first D injury call up from Albany? Seniority would say helgeson or Burlon, no? Or do we think they'll go right to severson?

 

I suppose it depends on who he'd be replacing.  But can anyone chime in on Hrabarenka's potential.  Appears to have the physical tools, he's young, and put up pretty good point totals.  Or is it all smoke and mirrors?

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Burlon's not signed to a contract yet. Last year it was Helgeson. I think they are going to sign someone for Albany and that guy would be the first call up if a vet got hurt.

yeah after I posted I looked it up and saw Burlon isn't signed. Are they cutting ties with him?

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I suppose it depends on who he'd be replacing.  But can anyone chime in on Hrabarenka's potential.  Appears to have the physical tools, he's young, and put up pretty good point totals.  Or is it all smoke and mirrors?

 

Lot of guys I'd like to see repeat last season, Hrabarenka is one of them.  I don't think he's any higher than 12th on the depth chart right now.  I do like that he has basically moved from a 3rd rate junior league in 2009-10 into being a decent pro in the space of 4 years, that's impressive, but I'm not sure he's an NHL player.  I've seen him play a few times, never live though.

 

yeah after I posted I looked it up and saw Burlon isn't signed. Are they cutting ties with him?

 

I don't think so, but I don't think they think very highly of him, either.  They qualified him, but that doesn't mean he'll get an NHL contract.

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I suppose it depends on who he'd be replacing. But can anyone chime in on Hrabarenka's potential. Appears to have the physical tools, he's young, and put up pretty good point totals. Or is it all smoke and mirrors?

Well you figure you can expect Salvador to pick up some bumps and bruises, so you'd preferably want someone who can play the pk. I'm not sure I think highly of Harrold filling that role.

If severson impresses as much as he's being talked about he could be the guy much like Merrill was last year. Plus he's a righty which would allow Merrill to stay on the left side.

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I'd like to see Hrabarenka or Helgeson get some time.  Why would the Devils sign another defenseman when they've been praising their own defensive depth for this entire off-season.  We have an 7th defenseman who will jump in in case of injury, and that's Harrold.  I understand the reasoning behind signing a depth defeseman that can bounce in between, but I don't see that happening.  You're going to have a depth guy that is going to be repeatedly exposed to waivers if the Devils have a multitude of injuries.  It's just much easier to move around a younger guy if the injury bug hits us hard.  

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I think Severson's probably capable of playing in the NHL.  I imagine Helgeson is a replacement-level D at best, which is not what you want to have around.  I guess Harrold fulfills that function but it would be nice to have another guy around in case Severson falters (or in the near-inevitable case that Helgeson does)

 

Severson cannot go back to Kelowna, he's AHL or NHL (or ECHL). 

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Use your skills Damon, you don't have to play a physical game because you are big...

 

Severson on what advice Stevens has given him this week about his play:

“I think he likes what he sees overall. He was a very physical player and a very competitive player when he played and that’s what he wants to see out of his players that he coaches. So, anytime you can be solid on the defensive end, then my mindset is get in the offensive end and create for your team as well. Obviously, as a defenseman, you’ve got to shut down the opposition and he’s a guy who really prides himself on being physical and making players on the other team not want to play against you. So, (it’s) just little things that I’ve learned from him and I hope to continue doing so.”

- See more at: http://fireandice.northjersey.com/fire-ice-1.174987/devils-prospect-damon-severson-feels-it-s-time-to-start-my-nhl-career-1.1051700#sthash.GBPSdoyj.dpuf
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Use your skills Damon, you don't have to play a physical game because you are big...

 

Severson on what advice Stevens has given him this week about his play:

“I think he likes what he sees overall. He was a very physical player and a very competitive player when he played and that’s what he wants to see out of his players that he coaches. So, anytime you can be solid on the defensive end, then my mindset is get in the offensive end and create for your team as well. Obviously, as a defenseman, you’ve got to shut down the opposition and he’s a guy who really prides himself on being physical and making players on the other team not want to play against you. So, (it’s) just little things that I’ve learned from him and I hope to continue doing so.”

- See more at: http://fireandice.northjersey.com/fire-ice-1.174987/devils-prospect-damon-severson-feels-it-s-time-to-start-my-nhl-career-1.1051700#sthash.GBPSdoyj.dpuf

 

 

 

argh. this is so stupid. stevens did this with gelinas too - you're big - you've gotta hit and be physical.

 

not everyone is a good hitter and can necessarily play physically. lidstrom wasn't physical - he was just excellent positionally.

 

"not everyone can hit, be physical - you either know how to do it or you don't." you can figure out who told me that.

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I mean, if Severson's already a physical player, I don't see the problem.  I do see an issue with being physical at the blue line in general, I just don't think that's a strategy that can work in today's NHL.

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He's teaching the kids how to play physically well.  It already added another element to Larsson's game, making him a more complete player.  You all are making it sound like it's a bad thing.  This idea that in the 'new' NHL there is no place for physicality is complete bull.  In no way is Stevens forcing these players to be physical.  That's the most naive thing I've ever heard. 

 

 

Use your skills Damon, you don't have to play a physical game because you are big...

 

Severson on what advice Stevens has given him this week about his play:

“I think he likes what he sees overall. He was a very physical player and a very competitive player when he played and that’s what he wants to see out of his players that he coaches. So, anytime you can be solid on the defensive end, then my mindset is get in the offensive end and create for your team as well. Obviously, as a defenseman, you’ve got to shut down the opposition and he’s a guy who really prides himself on being physical and making players on the other team not want to play against you. So, (it’s) just little things that I’ve learned from him and I hope to continue doing so.”

- See more at: http://fireandice.northjersey.com/fire-ice-1.174987/devils-prospect-damon-severson-feels-it-s-time-to-start-my-nhl-career-1.1051700#sthash.GBPSdoyj.dpuf

 

The only thing you can really take from this is that Stevens wants an offensive-minded defenseman(Severson) to be responsible defensively.  That's true for every single defenseman.  No where in there does it say, "Stevens told me to be more physical because I'm big."  This is Severson saying he THINKS Stevens and the coaching staff think of him.  This is more a testament to how Stevens played, not how Severson plays or should play. 
 

 

argh. this is so stupid. stevens did this with gelinas too - you're big - you've gotta hit and be physical.

 

not everyone is a good hitter and can necessarily play physically. lidstrom wasn't physical - he was just excellent positionally.

 

"not everyone can hit, be physical - you either know how to do it or you don't." you can figure out who told me that.

So not everybody can be Stevens, but anybody can be Lidstrom?  The point I'd like to make is that both Stevens and Lidstrom were COMPLETE defensemen.  Has it not occurred that Stevens wants to coach defensemen to also be complete defensemen?  Wouldn't you rather a defensemen to understand how to be physical in the right way than be a loose cannon. 

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He's teaching the kids how to play physically well.  It already added another element to Larsson's game, making him a more complete player.  You all are making it sound like it's a bad thing.  This idea that in the 'new' NHL there is no place for physicality is complete bull.  In no way is Stevens forcing these players to be physical.  That's the most naive thing I've ever heard. 

 

The only thing you can really take from this is that Stevens wants an offensive-minded defenseman(Severson) to be responsible defensively.  That's true for every single defenseman.  No where in there does it say, "Stevens told me to be more physical because I'm big."  This is Severson saying he THINKS Stevens and the coaching staff think of him.  This is more a testament to how Stevens played, not how Severson plays or should play. 

 

 

So not everybody can be Stevens, but anybody can be Lidstrom?  The point I'd like to make is that both Stevens and Lidstrom were COMPLETE defensemen.  Has it not occurred that Stevens wants to coach defensemen to also be complete defensemen?  Wouldn't you rather a defensemen to understand how to be physical in the right way than be a loose cannon. 

 

i'm not saying to not be physical - i'm saying to know when to go out of your way to make a hit and when not to. gelinas took himself out of the play enough times to take notice in the 2nd half when he was doing whatever he could to stay in the lineup because they essentially thought he was nothing more than a PP specialist.

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Man the Devils have SO many quality prospects on defense.  It's truly a great thing.

 

(In no particular order) Larsson, Merril, Gelinas, Severson, Santini, Scarlett, Jacobs..even Burlon and Hrabarenka.. damn.

 

Does make you think some of them have to be expendable though.  

 

I have to admit.. I was always adamantly against trading Larsson.  But if he's still got that flashy appeal to other GMs..and if he could snag a quality offensive prospect.. I'm starting to think it might be a smart move.


 
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i'm not saying to not be physical - i'm saying to know when to go out of your way to make a hit and when not to. gelinas took himself out of the play enough times to take notice in the 2nd half when he was doing whatever he could to stay in the lineup because they essentially thought he was nothing more than a PP specialist.

He was oft out of position, but that isn't Steven's fault for every mistake Gelinas made last season.  He has to correct his game, Stevens can't do that for him

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He was oft out of position, but that isn't Steven's fault for every mistake Gelinas made last season. He has to correct his game, Stevens can't do that for him

This. And to make things worse Gelinas is a weak skater.

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On the Devils' website they have highlights of the goals from today's scrimmage. Miles Wood and Ben Thomsen scored beauties

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