dmann422 Posted August 6, 2014 Share Posted August 6, 2014 Slow day here, can't find an old topic to bump- What is your all time team? Based on a player's career as a devil (ie shanahan only has 4 years, Rockies and scouts don't count). I admittedly don't go back to the old days but I know enough to take a stab (not sure on line combos but tried to stay true to positions): Elias-Muller-MacLean Parise-Holik-Verbeek Richer-Gomez-Sykora Pandolfo-Zajac-Lemieux Stevens-Niedermayer Daneyko-Rafalski Driver-White Brodeur Terreri Extras:Madden, McKay, Martin Goalies and the top 5 defensemen are pretty easy, it's the forward group that is open to debate after a few obvious choices. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Derlique Posted August 6, 2014 Share Posted August 6, 2014 My time started in the late 90s, so I'll stick to that time period. Elias-Arnott-Sykora Parise-Zajac-Langenbrunner Lemieux-Holik-Mogilny Brylin-Gomez-Gionta Stevens-Rafalski Niedermayer-Greene White-Martin Brodeur Schneider Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DevsMan84 Posted August 6, 2014 Share Posted August 6, 2014 (edited) Elias - Muller - MacLean Parise - Arnott - Shanahan Lemieux - Holik - Sykora Verbeek - Zajac - Richer Extras: Brylin, McKay, Langs Stevens - Niedermayer Daneyko - Rafalski Driver - Greene Brodeur Resch Edited August 6, 2014 by DevsMan84 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Daniel Posted August 6, 2014 Share Posted August 6, 2014 Elias -- Arnott -- Sykora Parise -- Zajac -- Kovalchuk Lemieux -- Holik - Jagr Verbeek -- Gomez -- Richer Extras: Madden, Langs Stevens -- Niedermeyer Daneyko -- Rafalski Driver -- Greene Extra: Martin Brodeur Schneider Note: All selections are based on career playing for the Devils (Jagr) and I also take chemistry into account. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
2ELIAS6 Posted August 6, 2014 Share Posted August 6, 2014 Elias -- Arnott -- Sykora Parise -- Zajac -- Kovalchuk Lemieux -- Holik - Jagr Verbeek -- Gomez -- Richer Extras: Madden, Langs Stevens -- Niedermeyer Daneyko -- Rafalski Driver -- Greene Extra: Martin Brodeur Schneider Note: All selections are based on career playing for the Devils (Jagr) and I also take chemistry into account. ohhh that second line though ugh Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dmann422 Posted August 6, 2014 Author Share Posted August 6, 2014 Elias -- Arnott -- Sykora Parise -- Zajac -- Kovalchuk Lemieux -- Holik - Jagr Verbeek -- Gomez -- Richer Extras: Madden, Langs Stevens -- Niedermeyer Daneyko -- Rafalski Driver -- Greene Extra: Martin Brodeur Schneider Note: All selections are based on career playing for the Devils (Jagr) and I also take chemistry into account. you have jagr's one year as a devil as being enough to make an all time team? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Colorado Rockies 1976 Posted August 6, 2014 Share Posted August 6, 2014 Slow day here, can't find an old topic to bump- What is your all time team? Based on a player's career as a devil (ie shanahan only has 4 years, Rockies and scouts don't count). I admittedly don't go back to the old days but I know enough to take a stab (not sure on line combos but tried to stay true to positions): Elias-Muller-MacLean Parise-Holik-Verbeek Richer-Gomez-Sykora Pandolfo-Zajac-Lemieux Stevens-Niedermayer Daneyko-Rafalski Driver-White Brodeur Terreri Extras:Madden, McKay, Martin Goalies and the top 5 defensemen are pretty easy, it's the forward group that is open to debate after a few obvious choices. Agree on the top 5 D. For the goalies, I think it's between Resch and Terreri at this point for #2, though it's likely only a matter of a couple of seasons before Schneider knocks them both out. Terreri had at least league-average teams in front of him when he established himself (basically taking Burke's job in the process, which wasn't supposed to happen...it's an indictment of Burke as much as it is a testament to Terreri). Resch never had a prayer with the chum he shared the ice with...there's really no understating just how awful his first few Rockies/Devils teams were. I lean towards him as the guy behind Marty. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dmann422 Posted August 6, 2014 Author Share Posted August 6, 2014 Agree on the top 5 D. For the goalies, I think it's between Resch and Terreri at this point for #2, though it's likely only a matter of a couple of seasons before Schneider knocks them both out. Terreri had at least league-average teams in front of him when he established himself (basically taking Burke's job in the process, which wasn't supposed to happen...it's an indictment of Burke as much as it is a testament to Terreri). Resch never had a prayer with the chum he shared the ice with...there's really no understating just how awful his first few Rockies/Devils teams were. I lean towards him as the guy behind Marty. true on the goalies, I wasn't around for Chico to see how truly bad the team was, I can only look at the numbers. But you're right in that Chico probably meant so much to those early teams. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Daniel Posted August 6, 2014 Share Posted August 6, 2014 you have jagr's one year as a devil as being enough to make an all time team? Yes. He's basically the reason the team did not end up being one of the worst in the league. Even at the prime of their careers with the Devils you couldn't say that about the others you would put in his place that aren't already on there. I expect him to be just as good this year. Even at this stage of his career he would fit in great on a line with Holik and Lemieux. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guadana Posted August 6, 2014 Share Posted August 6, 2014 Elias -- Arnott -- SykoraParise -- Zajac -- LangenbrunnerLemieux -- Holik - RicherPandolfo -- Madden -- Brylin Stevens -- Niedermeyer Daneyko -- RafalskiWhite -- Greene Brodeur Clemmensen (i like his 2009th year) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
redruM Posted August 7, 2014 Share Posted August 7, 2014 This was alot harder than I thought it would be... Elias-Arnott – Sykora Parise- Muller-MacLeanRicher-Gomez- LemieuxMadden-Holik-Langenbrunner Stevens – Niedermeyer Daneyko -- RafalskiFetisov- Kasatanov Brodeur Burke Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Devilsfan118 Posted August 7, 2014 Share Posted August 7, 2014 Elias -- Arnott -- Sykora Parise -- Zajac -- Kovalchuk Lemieux -- Holik - Jagr Verbeek -- Gomez -- Richer Extras: Madden, Langs Stevens -- Niedermeyer Daneyko -- Rafalski Driver -- Greene Extra: Martin Brodeur Schneider Note: All selections are based on career playing for the Devils (Jagr) and I also take chemistry into account. Ugh I'd watch the sh!t out of this team. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Colorado Rockies 1976 Posted August 7, 2014 Share Posted August 7, 2014 This was alot harder than I thought it would be... Brodeur Burke Not sure how you can put Burke 2nd. He had the nice run in '87-'88, and the Devils clearly don't get to the playoffs and then win a couple of rounds without him...but he was incredibly disappointing after that. He couldn't even hold off Chris Terreri, who could best be described as likeably pretty good...and the Devils made no secret of the fact that they wanted Burke to be their guy...they gave Burke multiple chances to keep his job, but when Terreri kept out-performing him time and time again in 1989-90 and 1990-91, the Devils eventually (and begrudgingly) had to go with the guy who gave his team the best chance to win (especially since those Devils teams had to claw their way into the playoffs). Burke also told to the fans who dared to boo him after watching three years of Burke's lackluster play that they could "go to hell". I can understand people picking Terreri or Resch (in terms of ability they were probably pretty similar, in that they could play pretty well on good teams (Resch showed that with the Islanders), but weren't the guys who could take you to a Cup final). Resch's Devils numbers are awful (67-148-33 record, 4.09 GAA, .863 save%...not as bad in his era as they would be today), but those numbers are a reflection of the team in front of him. Those Devils really were THAT bad. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DevsMan84 Posted August 7, 2014 Share Posted August 7, 2014 For my backup it really was a decision that was down to Terreri and Resch. I picked Resch because I pictured if they both had that 99-00 team in front of them, I think we would have had more success with Chico. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Onddeck Posted August 7, 2014 Share Posted August 7, 2014 whoa whoa whoa... you guys are forgetting some key positions here. Coach: Larry Robinson Booth: Doc & Chico. (really the only acceptable answer here right?) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Daniel Posted August 7, 2014 Share Posted August 7, 2014 This was alot harder than I thought it would be... Elias-Arnott – Sykora Parise- Muller-MacLean Richer-Gomez- Lemieux Madden-Holik-Langenbrunner Stevens – Niedermeyer Daneyko -- Rafalski Fetisov- Kasatanov Brodeur Burke Interesting call on Fetisov. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DevsMan84 Posted August 7, 2014 Share Posted August 7, 2014 Interesting call on Fetisov. I agree too. I did like Fetisov but dammit I have trouble sometimes letting go of his bad decision that lead up to the GWG Matteau goal in 1994 ECF game 7. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
redruM Posted August 7, 2014 Share Posted August 7, 2014 Not sure how you can put Burke 2nd. He had the nice run in '87-'88, and the Devils clearly don't get to the playoffs and then win a couple of rounds without him...but he was incredibly disappointing after that. He couldn't even hold off Chris Terreri, who could best be described as likeably pretty good...and the Devils made no secret of the fact that they wanted Burke to be their guy...they gave Burke multiple chances to keep his job, but when Terreri kept out-performing him time and time again in 1989-90 and 1990-91, the Devils eventually (and begrudgingly) had to go with the guy who gave his team the best chance to win (especially since those Devils teams had to claw their way into the playoffs). Burke also told to the fans who dared to boo him after watching three years of Burke's lackluster play that they could "go to hell". I can understand people picking Terreri or Resch (in terms of ability they were probably pretty similar, in that they could play pretty well on good teams (Resch showed that with the Islanders), but weren't the guys who could take you to a Cup final). Resch's Devils numbers are awful (67-148-33 record, 4.09 GAA, .863 save%...not as bad in his era as they would be today), but those numbers are a reflection of the team in front of him. Those Devils really were THAT bad. Simply based on the playoff run, other than Marty the Devs donot have a goalie to really look at, so I decided to go withthe guy who gave us the most exciting playoff run other than Marty... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
redruM Posted August 7, 2014 Share Posted August 7, 2014 I agree too. I did like Fetisov but dammit I have trouble sometimes letting go of his bad decision that lead up to the GWG Matteau goal in 1994 ECF game 7. Probably just the rose colored glasses, I just seem to remember Fesitov & Kasatanov being a really big deal for NJ, and I could NOT put White in the top 6, Driver probably belongs, but I went in another direction... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DevsMan84 Posted August 7, 2014 Share Posted August 7, 2014 Probably just the rose colored glasses, I just seem to remember Fesitov & Kasatanov being a really big deal for NJ, and I could NOT put White in the top 6, Driver probably belongs, but I went in another direction... Yeah I mean that is fine and honestly I had White in my top 6 as well as Fetisov until I thought about it longer and figured that Greene and Driver were better defenseman. I also considered Albelin as well in the last spot there too. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Colorado Rockies 1976 Posted August 7, 2014 Share Posted August 7, 2014 (edited) Probably just the rose colored glasses, I just seem to remember Fesitov & Kasatanov being a really big deal for NJ, and I could NOT put White in the top 6, Driver probably belongs, but I went in another direction... Remember Sergei Starikov (#4)? He started the season with the Devils that year too (89-90)...supposedly he was so happy to be coming to NJ that he partied his ass off before the season started and was woefully out of shape. His NHL career lasted all of 16 games. Fetisov and Kasatonov coming to NJ was a very big deal (as it was back then with Russians in general), for reasons good and bad. They weren't on speaking terms when they played in NJ...Kasatonov sided with Russian authorities when players like Fetisov were outspoken about leaving the USSR to play in the US...I remember Gary Thorne saying during one of Kasatonov's early games as a Devil that Lou had had a sitdown with both players and basically told them that their feud had better not become an issue in the locker room or on the ice in any way. Edited August 7, 2014 by Colorado Rockies 1976 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
eaglejelly Posted August 7, 2014 Share Posted August 7, 2014 whoa whoa whoa... you guys are forgetting some key positions here. Coach: Larry Robinson Booth: Doc & Chico. (really the only acceptable answer here right?) I just don’t know who to pick as the manager Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RizzMB30 Posted August 10, 2014 Share Posted August 10, 2014 Parise-Zajac-JagrElias-Arnott-SykoraPandolfo-Madden-BrylinMacLean-Holik-RicherEx. McKay, Verbeek, LemeiuxStevens-NiedermayerRafalski-GreeneDaneyko-White (Dat 3rd Pairing)Ex. DriverBrodeur, Terreri (Schneider as an extra, although we're very sure he'll be All-time list worthy)Coach: Jacques Lemaire (Although I'm sure he would bench Jagr for his defensive play ) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Michael Evanchik Posted August 13, 2014 Share Posted August 13, 2014 whats so weird is that Rafalski was a UFA and nobody wanted him Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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