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You had doubts after watching him play, but you changed your mind based on an article?

For me, he has to prove himself and this is the year for him to step up and do that.

 

I'll just assume you didn't even bother reading the article.

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You had doubts after watching him play, but you changed your mind based on an article?

For me, he has to prove himself and this is the year for him to step up and do that.

I meant to say "If you had any doubts", not if "I" had any.  I definitely believe that of our U-24 Dmen, Merril is not one to trade, especially at this current time.  

Amended on the original post.

Edited by RizzMB30

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I'll just assume you didn't even bother reading the article.

No I read it. My comment was on his comment regarding the article. He explained what he meant and now it makes more sense.

And you KNOW what they say about people who assume...

I meant to say "If you had any doubts", not if "I" had any. I definitely believe that of our U-24 Dmen, Merril is not one to trade, especially at this current time.

Amended on the original post.

Agreed on that. Merrill and Severson both IMHO.

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Not sure where to post this, but I just read this really exciting piece on Merril.  If you had any doubts about Merril's play this past season, this article points out how much of an essential role that Merril and possibly Severson will play in this next season if we want to be competitive.  Merril is a great passer, drives the play, and does a good job of taking care of the puck.  

http://www.inlouwetrust.com/2015/7/6/8858899/passing-wowys-nj-devils-defense-pairings

 

 

I'm a Merrill fan, I agree with some other people here that he should not be the one to go. If he even comes close again to the way he played two seasons ago, we have a very good young defenseman on our hands. During 2013-2014, he was playing with every bit of skill, maturity, and vision as Adam Larsson did this year post-December. 

 

I see people who are insisting "trade Merrill!!!" the way I saw people who were insisting "trade Larsson!!!" this time last year (and beyond). He won't yield much of a return right now, until he regains his form from a year or two ago; and once he regains his form from a year or two ago, he'll be much more valuable than his return. Just keep him, I think he'll be our next Andy Greene.

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Between Ariana Grande and ROR, it's been a bad time to be a donut.

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Kind of amusing that the only former Devils players or coaches from last season that have new jobs right now are Pete Deboer and Peter Harrold. Not overly shocking...but pretty sad.

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Kind of amusing that the only former Devils players or coaches from last season that have new jobs right now are Pete Deboer and Peter Harrold. Not overly shocking...but pretty sad.

 

One is a scrub of a coach the other is a scrub of a player... ugh it is legit surprising/sad

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Between Ariana Grande and ROR, it's been a bad time to be a donut.

I dunno, I'd probably be okay if Ariana Grande licked me.

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I dunno, I'd probably be okay if Ariana Grande licked me.

 

If I were 15+ years younger, sure.  But with me being 6' 1" and 45 years old, the image of 5-foot-nuthin Ariana (who looks at least four years younger than her 22 years) doing anything to me is bound to give just about everyone the heebie-jeebies (me included). 

 

But yeah, the donuts probably weren't complaining all that much.

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One is a scrub of a coach the other is a scrub of a player... ugh it is legit surprising/sad

 

PDB wasn't a scrub.  He was a good coach.  Give him a good team and he can make it to the Finals.  Give a great team and we will see like the Sharks can be and we will see.

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PDB wasn't a scrub.  He was a good coach.  Give him a good team and he can make it to the Finals.  Give a great team and we will see like the Sharks can be and we will see.

 

Give him a team with youth and he'll sh!t himself because he won't have enough veterans to replace them with. The dude absolutely sucked with the youth on our team, I feel bad for Hertl.

 

And not for nothing, he wasn't a THAT good of a coach, I think at least half the coaches in the league at that time could have taken our 2012 team to the finals, that was a great team and if not for drawing the Kings in the Finals, we'd be 4x's Cup champs. Let's also remember we were one goal away from going home, twice in the opening round.

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Give him a team with youth and he'll sh!t himself because he won't have enough veterans to replace them with. The dude absolutely sucked with the youth on our team, I feel bad for Hertl.

 

And not for nothing, he wasn't a THAT good of a coach, I think at least half the coaches in the league at that time could have taken our 2012 team to the finals, that was a great team and if not for drawing the Kings in the Finals, we'd be 4x's Cup champs. Let's also remember we were one goal away from going home, twice in the opening round.

 

I feel bad for Severson and Henrique.  Not for what DeBoer did to them, since they played very solid hockey under him and they were young and it didn't matter and they're constantly overlooked as young players who thrived here, but because they were saddled with the three wheeled sh!t wagon after he left.

 

The narrative that DeBoer is terrible with youth just doesn't fly.  Larsson couldn't acclimiate himself to the DeBoer system and then when he did he was hurt.  Finally he got it when DeBoer was on his way out.   Josefson, unfortunately, wasn't able to do what was asked of him once he failed at playing his own game.  I think he'll get a chance here this year but I'm not sure he's that good of a player.

 

Tomas Hertl will be fine.

Edited by Triumph

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I feel bad for Severson and Henrique.  Not for what DeBoer did to them, since they played very solid hockey under him and they were young and it didn't matter and they're constantly overlooked as young players who thrived here, but because they were saddled with the three wheeled sh!t wagon after he left.

 

The narrative that DeBoer is terrible with youth just doesn't fly.  Larsson couldn't acclimiate himself to the DeBoer system and then when he did he was hurt.  Finally he got it when DeBoer was on his way out.   Josefson, unfortunately, wasn't able to do what was asked of him once he failed at playing his own game.  I think he'll get a chance here this year but I'm not sure he's that good of a player.

 

Tomas Hertl will be fine.

 

Yeah just because Larsson and DeBoer didn't fit together I'm not automatically assuming every young player in San Jose will be thrown to the curb.

 

In any case the Sharks are kind of at a crossroads, are mostly a veteran team and need to win a cup either next year or the year after before Thorton/Marleau retire.  If Hertl doesn't blossom under DeBoer it will be a minor tragedy but they can't choose their coach based on the question "who is the best coach for tomas hertl?"  They are focused on the next two years primarily.

 

DeBoer I thought was the best man for the job. I think he'll be good for San Jose for the next two years.

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If I were 15+ years younger, sure. But with me being 6' 1" and 45 years old, the image of 5-foot-nuthin Ariana (who looks at least four years younger than her 22 years) doing anything to me is bound to give just about everyone the heebie-jeebies (me included).

But yeah, the donuts probably weren't complaining all that much.

My grandpa always used to say, that's the best thing about college girls. We get older, they stay the same age. :D

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If I were 15+ years younger, sure. But with me being 6' 1" and 45 years old, the image of 5-foot-nuthin Ariana (who looks at least four years younger than her 22 years) doing anything to me is bound to give just about everyone the heebie-jeebies (me included).

But yeah, the donuts probably weren't complaining all that much.

Yeah, I'm sure if it really happened you'd be sooo upset.

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My grandpa always used to say, that's the best thing about college girls. We get older, they stay the same age. :D

 

Just like Wooderson said about high school gals.

 

 

Yeah, I'm sure if it really happened you'd be sooo upset.

 

She looks like a 15- or 16-year-old kid to me.  I don't have anything against younger women (duh), but I prefer that they at least look like...well, you know, women.  That's where the movie "American Beauty" lost me a bit...Lester Burnham wasn't lusting after a high school girl who looked like she was in her early-mid 20s (the way some high school girls can with the right clothes and makeup) or somehow seemed unusually mature...he was lusting after a 16-year-old who clearly looked that age.  Was getting a little too close to pedophilia for my liking. 

 

And before I get my hands slapped for topic derailment:

 

Not sure how PDB will do out there.  I'm not sure how much longer I would go with Thornton and Marleau.  Some guys just don't win. 

Edited by Colorado Rockies 1976

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per Friedman

Two-year deal for NJ and Gelinas to avoid arb: 1.5/1.65

Nice.

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That brings him to 26 so he will still be an RFA. That's a pretty good deal. If he turns into a good player he's still under team control when his contract is up. And if the devils decide to trade him the fact that he would remain under team control would probably be appealing to other teams.

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That brings him to 26 so he will still be an RFA. That's a pretty good deal. If he turns into a good player he's still under team control when his contract is up. And if the devils decide to trade him the fact that he would remain under team control would probably be appealing to other teams.

Its another show me contract and probably his last if he doesn't show something better this time

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