Jump to content
Sign in to follow this  
MadDog2020

GDT: Devils @ Winnipeg 3:00 PM

Recommended Posts

These aren't your older brothers Devils. Missed this one but these 4+ goals against are becoming too normal. 

Share this post


Link to post
Share on other sites

Our top lines are a big negative,  hall , nico, stafford have almost no positive nights... the aggressive style has a tendency to catch our forwards too deep.. and transition goals allowed are mounting... we've been carried by the lower lines.. and our speedy dmen are on the tiny side.. so our play in front and behind our net is a disadvantage 

Our top players need to score more than they give up

Edited by EdgeControl

Share this post


Link to post
Share on other sites
46 minutes ago, EdgeControl said:

Our top lines are a big negative,  hall , nico, stafford have almost no positive nights... the aggressive style has a tendency to catch our forwards too deep.. and transition goals allowed are mounting... we've been carried by the lower lines.. and our speedy dmen are on the tiny side.. so our play in front and behind our net is a disadvantage 

Our top players need to score more than they give up

Winnipeg had no answer for them; Hall had 7 shots, Nico 6.  They finally got one goal late but they got a ton of chances before that, especially when the game was close.  1st line is the last thing I'm worried about at the moment.  It's those middle 2 that are an issue right now.

  • Like 3

Share this post


Link to post
Share on other sites

We've got a week defense and an average goaltender. We've been giving up a bunch of goals this season and have still, luckily, been able to win. The thing that worries me is that we're likely to see more of the 5-2 games than not. I don't think this team can keep scoring 4, 5, 6 goals per game. The Devils, as usual, will go through a team wide scoring drought as they inevitably do.

Share this post


Link to post
Share on other sites
28 minutes ago, Triumph said:

Winnipeg had no answer for them; Hall had 7 shots, Nico 6.  They finally got one goal late but they got a ton of chances before that, especially when the game was close.  1st line is the last thing I'm worried about at the moment.  It's those middle 2 that are an issue right now.

Good point,  I know you aren't a +- guy but the fact is that over the last 8 games our top lines are being out scored. By a good margin.. we possess the puck well but the other teams come down on us and score. OK,  Yes, its more on the D and strategy..so point taken  marcus needs to come back and add a talented forward to those 2 and 3 lines.. Zacha needs to step up..as well

Share this post


Link to post
Share on other sites
3 hours ago, Mike Brown said:

And it's why the Bruins have had our number as well.

Maybe we should get rid of all of this youth and get big, slow players that wouldn’t make any other team’s roster!

  • Like 1

Share this post


Link to post
Share on other sites
23 minutes ago, EdgeControl said:

Good point,  I know you aren't a +- guy but the fact is that over the last 8 games our top lines are being out scored. By a good margin.. we possess the puck well but the other teams come down on us and score. OK,  Yes, its more on the D and strategy..so point taken  marcus needs to come back and add a talented forward to those 2 and 3 lines.. Zacha needs to step up..as well

It's also that the top line isn't scoring, but I don't think that's because they're not getting enough chances.  They're just not capitalizing on the chances they're getting.

Share this post


Link to post
Share on other sites
37 minutes ago, CarpathianForest said:

We've had issues since Zajac returned. It's his fault

Someone actually posted this to Amanda Stein yesterday, and they were 100% serious.

  • Haha 2

Share this post


Link to post
Share on other sites
1 hour ago, mfitz804 said:

Maybe we should get rid of all of this youth and get big, slow players that wouldn’t make any other team’s roster!

We did between 2005 - 2014 with previous management. No thanks. 

Share this post


Link to post
Share on other sites
1 hour ago, Triumph said:

It's also that the top line isn't scoring, but I don't think that's because they're not getting enough chances.  They're just not capitalizing on the chances they're getting.

I have a feeling Palmeri is going to go on a nice scoring streak, soon....he needs to be the finisher 

Share this post


Link to post
Share on other sites

A new day, a new quote about Zacha (who seems to be in the lineup tomorrow): 

On what Zacha needed to learn from watching as a healthy scratch: “How hard you need to compete. How consistently you need to compete and it’s a league you have to move your feet and you have to play. For a guy like him, who has offensive talent, he can’t wait for the puck to come to him. You have to really work without the puck and when you get it back, make plays under pressure and in tight areas.”

On why that’s slipped from Zacha’s game after he looked good in preseason and earlier in the regular season while playing with Taylor Hall: “That’s the challenge. That’s kind of what we’ve talked with him about. What’s the reason for it? You see pockets of it. When he does that, he can be very effective. Therein lies the challenge for young players: the ability to understand daily in this league how hard you have to play and when he was playing like that, he was having success. It’s what we’re trying to work on. We’re trying to get some emotion for him to get back. He’s going to get a good opportunity tomorrow and he’s got to respond.”

From this AG article (there's some stuff about Henrique too and why he may be on the 4th line tomorrow):  http://www.northjersey.com/story/sports/nhl/devils/fireandice/2017/11/19/new-lines-come-message-devils-practice-pavel-zacha-healthy-scratch-adam-henrique-fourth-line-hynes/879231001/

  • Like 3

Share this post


Link to post
Share on other sites
57 minutes ago, LittleBallofHate said:

A new day, a new quote about Zacha (who seems to be in the lineup tomorrow): 

On what Zacha needed to learn from watching as a healthy scratch: “How hard you need to compete. How consistently you need to compete and it’s a league you have to move your feet and you have to play. For a guy like him, who has offensive talent, he can’t wait for the puck to come to him. You have to really work without the puck and when you get it back, make plays under pressure and in tight areas.”

On why that’s slipped from Zacha’s game after he looked good in preseason and earlier in the regular season while playing with Taylor Hall: “That’s the challenge. That’s kind of what we’ve talked with him about. What’s the reason for it? You see pockets of it. When he does that, he can be very effective. Therein lies the challenge for young players: the ability to understand daily in this league how hard you have to play and when he was playing like that, he was having success. It’s what we’re trying to work on. We’re trying to get some emotion for him to get back. He’s going to get a good opportunity tomorrow and he’s got to respond.”

From this AG article (there's some stuff about Henrique too and why he may be on the 4th line tomorrow):  http://www.northjersey.com/story/sports/nhl/devils/fireandice/2017/11/19/new-lines-come-message-devils-practice-pavel-zacha-healthy-scratch-adam-henrique-fourth-line-hynes/879231001/

Very interesting lines...

Share this post


Link to post
Share on other sites

Hmm, zachas speed of play must have been something they scouted... if they didn't like it why draft him, now they are forcing it out of him.. sounds like something easily done, but it's not... I think he plays well when pressured., 

I Like the fact that he's coming back top 6, though

Share this post


Link to post
Share on other sites
27 minutes ago, EdgeControl said:

Hmm, zachas speed of play must have been something they scouted... if they didn't like it why draft him, now they are forcing it out of him.. sounds like something easily done, but it's not... I think he plays well when pressured., 

I Like the fact that he's coming back top 6, though

Zacha was not picked by the current regime.  There'll be endless debates about whether he was Shero's pick or Conte's pick or whatever, but I can't put that pick 100% in Shero's court.

Share this post


Link to post
Share on other sites

i think zacha does a lot of things well but its not pretty or gritty and doesnt pass the eye test. 

 

im not a fan of boyle hes not strong or fast; he has no hands etc

 

hayes has decent speed and hands for a big guy...and grit

 

 

Share this post


Link to post
Share on other sites
47 minutes ago, lazer said:

 

im not a fan of boyle hes not strong or fast; he has no hands etc

I didn’t expect him to be fast being as big as he is, but damn with all that size he should be three times as strong. 

Share this post


Link to post
Share on other sites
3 hours ago, Bonginator11 said:

Very interesting lines...

I really like how Hynes has rewarded/demoted individuals according to performance - no matter who they are. Like those new lines. Zacha should be renewed with Zajac and Bratt. Henrique better feel the swift kick in the ass that is falling down to the fourth line.  Our 2nd and 3rd lines need to get going.

Share this post


Link to post
Share on other sites
50 minutes ago, mfitz804 said:

I didn’t expect him to be fast being as big as he is, but damn with all that size he should be three times as strong. 

He is just getting through battling Leukemia...

Share this post


Link to post
Share on other sites

"He's going to get a good opportunity tomorrow and he's got to respond."

That good opportunity? Playing on a line centered by Zajac. Good luck producing tomorrow, Pavel.

 

Seriously though, I like the way Hynes is handling Zacha. It'll be good for him to get some quality minutes tomorrow.

Share this post


Link to post
Share on other sites
21 minutes ago, Nicomo said:

He is just getting through battling Leukemia...

This is true as well. But I’ve seen him play before cancer too. 

Share this post


Link to post
Share on other sites
9 hours ago, Triumph said:

Zacha was not picked by the current regime.  There'll be endless debates about whether he was Shero's pick or Conte's pick or whatever, but I can't put that pick 100% in Shero's court.

Unless I'm mistaken, Shero said something to the effect of "Conte will run the draft" prior to it. I obviously don't take everything at face value, but...

Share this post


Link to post
Share on other sites
11 hours ago, Nicomo said:

He is just getting through battling Leukemia...

This isn't the issue. The big knock on Boyle his entire career is that he plays like he's 5'-9" 175. He's an enormous softie on the ice. 

Nobody is doubting his strength off the ice.

Share this post


Link to post
Share on other sites
On 11/19/2017 at 11:38 AM, mfitz804 said:

Maybe we should get rid of all of this youth and get big, slow players that wouldn’t make any other team’s roster!

The thing with the Jets is that they have the big guys who have skill.  Unlike most big teams, they're not susceptible to speed.

Share this post


Link to post
Share on other sites

Create an account or sign in to comment

You need to be a member in order to leave a comment

Create an account

Sign up for a new account in our community. It's easy!

Register a new account

Sign in

Already have an account? Sign in here.

Sign In Now

Sign in to follow this  

×