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Good article about state of craft beer industry and the debate as to what defines what is craft beer

http://www.npr.org/blogs/thesalt/2014/05/09/310803011/as-craft-beer-starts-gushing-its-essence-gets-watered-down

Yeah idk if there really is a definition as to what craft beer should be considered. I mean the most obvious example is Sam Adams. Yeah its hard to consider Boston lager, cherry wheat and octoberfest craft because its so widely distributed. On the other hand though their imperial series and their 22oz seasonals like fat jack and honey queen arent widely available. So does that mean those beers aren't craft and sam isnt a craft brewery because they sell a ton of Boston lager and seasonal 6pks? I don't think so. I think its silly to not consider something craft just because it succeeds as long as it keeps the same quality ingredients.

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Yeah idk if there really is a definition as to what craft beer should be considered. I mean the most obvious example is Sam Adams. Yeah its hard to consider Boston lager, cherry wheat and octoberfest craft because its so widely distributed. On the other hand though their imperial series and their 22oz seasonals like fat jack and honey queen arent widely available. So does that mean those beers aren't craft and sam isnt a craft brewery because they sell a ton of Boston lager and seasonal 6pks? I don't think so. I think its silly to not consider something craft just because it succeeds as long as it keeps the same quality ingredients.

I mostly agree with you, as long as they keep independent ownership. I don't care that Sam grew a ton. I do care that Goose and Blue Point sold a large portion of their companies. IMO there's too much evidence of the big 3 stifling creativity and trying to force the smaller breweries out of the market, so even if Goose's product is still good (and if I'm at a bar with no craft brands, you'd better believe I drink Goose and like it), IMO it's bad for the craft  industry as a whole, and therefore for the quality and originality we enjoy in our beers, that they sold out. I'll never fault a brewery for being successful, though. Sam may not be my favorite, but they still produce the same quality product, and I know a ton of people who swear by it.

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We held our annual memorial day party and I ended up with a large cooler full of craft beers friends brought. Some I wouldn't have bought myself, so I should be good for a couple of months!

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Decided to splurge at Whole Paycheck and get three four packs of this.  Officially my favorite beer.

 

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Picked up a four-pack of Devil Dancer yesterday. I don't usually spend $20 for a four-pack of anything, but I figure since Sunday is Father's Day, I can consider it a present to myself.

 

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You're lucky to snag a four pack, at my store the limit was two bottles.  One of my friends aged one from last year so we split one of my fresh bottles and then split his aged one.  I like this beer fresh, and also enjoyed it aged.  With a year on it, it tastes like a completely different beer, it ages like a barleywine.  I couldn't decide which I preferred since they were so different.  The fresh one obviously is very hoppy, and the aged one was smoother and sweeter.

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Had the chance to try a bunch of beers from Other Half, all of them excellent. They're a new operation in Brooklyn. Here's hoping they're able to establish themselves.

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Lately I have been finding myself to enjoy west coast IPA's more than east coast ones.  Anyone have good recommendations for west coast IPA's?  Not really into Imperial IPA's or Triple IPA's.

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Picked up a four-pack of Devil Dancer yesterday. I don't usually spend $20 for a four-pack of anything, but I figure since Sunday is Father's Day, I can consider it a present to myself.

 

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Saw this at the Whole Paycheck in Chelsea.  Going to pick up a four pack tonight ($15). 

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Saw this at the Whole Paycheck in Chelsea.  Going to pick up a four pack tonight ($15). 

Wow it's hard enough to get a whole four pack of that stuff, and that price is a steal, usually it is at least $20.

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Wow it's hard enough to get a whole four pack of that stuff, and that price is a steal, usually it is at least $20.

Sticker shock, was actually $25! Don't know what I was looking at. Going to save a few for the draft. Hope it's worth it.

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Lately I have been finding myself to enjoy west coast IPA's more than east coast ones.  Anyone have good recommendations for west coast IPA's?  Not really into Imperial IPA's or Triple IPA's.

I like triples, so I may not be the best person to go by, but Stone in general is my favorite brewery, and they specialize in IPAs. I actually prefer their session beer, Levitation, which still tastes pretty IPAish to some of their actual IPAs. They're also doing some interesting stuff, mixing some Belgian yeasts with IPA hops and the like. I'm also a huge fan of Great Divide Titan IPA, though I got a bad 6 pack last time.

 

On an unrelated note, just picked up a bottle of Allagash Curieux. As some of you may have noticed, I am often attracted to whiskey beers. Sometimes this attraction leads to disappointment (actually, often, it seems like a ton of breweries use whiskey barrels as an excuse to half ass everything else). Allagash nailed it. I had Kentucky Bourbon Barrel recently, and liked it a lot, but I preferred the Curieux. They age a Belgian beer, which creates a couple of different flavors that really evolve in your mouth. It's a well brewed, interesting beer. A bit expensive -- I dropped $17 for a bomber -- but well worth it for a treat.

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Lately I have been finding myself to enjoy west coast IPA's more than east coast ones. Anyone have good recommendations for west coast IPA's? Not really into Imperial IPA's or Triple IPA's.

West coast only? I'd definetly try 21st Amendment Bitter American. Not an IPA but an APA session which is basically the same thing. It's a year round offering, only $10, and really good. Usually that style has a hint of grapefruit, this one has a hint of vanilla. I really enjoyed it.

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West coast only? I'd definetly try 21st Amendment Bitter American. Not an IPA but an APA session which is basically the same thing. It's a year round offering, only $10, and really good. Usually that style has a hint of grapefruit, this one has a hint of vanilla. I really enjoyed it.

 

I had their Hell or High Watermelon a couple of years ago and thought it was decent for a fruit beer.  I will see if I can find their Bitter American and try it out.  Thanks fo the suggestion

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Sticker shock, was actually $25! Don't know what I was looking at. Going to save a few for the draft. Hope it's worth it.

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Well, I drank the four pack during the draft.  I liked it a lot, although IPAs do give me heart burn.

 

The bottle says 12% alcohol content.  Man were they not kidding.

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Was in Red Bank this past weekend and it looks like the West Side Lofts are coming along and it shouldn't be long until they are completed.  This is where the Red Bank location of Triumph Brewing is supposed to go.

 

However what is odd is that Triumph has not really mentioned on their website or FB about this location as "coming soon."  I wonder if the closing of their Philly location either put the wind out of their sails or maybe they are in some sort of financial trouble that is going on under the surface.  I do not see anything online indicating they are NOT going to open in Red Bank but it looks like they are being a little quiet about it.  I know Triumph has been lusting for that location since 2002/2003 and would have opened there but because of the old laws that were finally changed in 2012, they were forced to open their 2nd and 3rd locations in PA.

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Hi, I'm still alive.

 

I'll be in NJ with a serious beer-drinker friend of mine for a show at Starland Ballroom on Monday.  We'll have some time to kill before the show, so I was looking for recommendations on good places to pre-game.  Some place with a lot of taps...Middlesex County preferable, since I'm familiar with that area...but something closer to Sayreville is fine as well.

 

Let me know when you can. 

 

Or ignore this post...but if I die tragically in the coming days, you'll say to yourself, "If only I'd replied to him when I had the chance...NOW HE'S GONE!"

 

So...ya know...don't miss out is what I'm saying.

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There is World of Beer in New Brunswick that's somewhat close.

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There is World of Beer in New Brunswick that's somewhat close.

 

Maloney's in Matawan I think is the best beer bar in the area, it's about 20 minutes east of Starland Ballroom.  Directions

 

Good lookin' out, fellas.  Much appreciated.

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After believing I had gotten lucky when I was able to buy a 4-pack of Founders Devil Dancer in a nearby town a few weeks ago, I've since been fortunate enough to buy two more 4-packs of the same beer from a small liquor store in a small liquor store in my very own town. I did not even buy them together; I waited two weeks in between each purchase. And when I left the store last time, just a few days ago, there was still one more 4-pack left. I am thinking I might be back this week to snatch it up if its is still sitting there, LOL.

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Yeah I've had a similar experience.  Originally I was only able to buy two bottles and had to ask someone to get it out of the stock room for me, but lately the same store has had four packs on shelves.  Maybe more of it got shipped out here this year or something, or maybe demand has been diluted with many other great beers coming out every year now.

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Saw a four pack of devil dancer on the shelf at the local bottle king near me. I think it was about $20 if I remember right. I didn't get it as I would like to try it before I buy it.

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Yeah I've had a similar experience. Originally I was only able to buy two bottles and had to ask someone to get it out of the stock room for me, but lately the same store has had four packs on shelves. Maybe more of it got shipped out here this year or something, or maybe demand has been diluted with many other great beers coming out every year now.

Its not rare. It was readily available for 2 weeks to order and most popular rare beers are unavailable days after their release from the distributor. Hunterdon was actually trying its hardest to push it out. Its definetly not on par with just say, stone enjoy by, dogfish 120, KBS, bourbon county, and game of thrones.

It could be very good Idk I've never had it. But double ipas come off tasting too syrupy and heavy. I like sessions and american pale ales that taste more grassy, light and refreshing.

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