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Immediate rule clarification regarding articles

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Really? So if you owned the "Pepperkorn Daily Ledger Record Post Press Times of New Jersey" and it was the source of your income and jobs for all involved in its publishing and your advertisers decided to reduce or stop advertising due to low readership thereby putting your paper in the red you'd be ok with it? Might as well post those articles directly to a message board then huh? Why bother with the newspaper?

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Really? So if you owned the "Pepperkorn Daily Ledger Record Post Press Times of New Jersey" and it was the source of your income and jobs for all involved in its publishing and your advertisers decided to reduce or stop advertising due to low readership thereby putting your paper in the red you'd be ok with it? Might as well post those articles directly to a message board then huh? Why bother with the newspaper?

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Well lets face it, readership would be low because it would be all about her dreams with Scott Stevens and really who wants to read about that? :evil:

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Really? So if you owned the "Pepperkorn Daily Ledger Record Post Press Times of New Jersey" and it was the source of your income and jobs for all involved in its publishing and your advertisers decided to reduce or stop advertising due to low readership thereby putting your paper in the red you'd be ok with it? Might as well post those articles directly to a message board then huh? Why bother with the newspaper?

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I'm not changing anything. I never said anything about you owning/running the Star-Ledger. I said if you owned a newspaper.

As for the Star-Ledger, they are likely just enforcing their own policy and I'm sure NJDevs.com or even NHL related articles are not their only target. I have seen newspapers, magazines, and other news outlets make such requests on other message boards that have nothing to do with hockey or even sports for that matter. It goes back to the classic "If you allow one you have to allow all".

My guess is that these media outlets do in fact see their traffic/revenue drop or they wouldn't bother.

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Wow, a lot of people hating the Ledger about this when all they are doing is protecting their property. You'd do the same if you owned a newspaper.

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I understadn what the Star Ledger is doing.. and no, i wouldn't do it.

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I just received a letter in the mail re-iterating they want the old posts removed. I am going to have to manually go back and delete posts. If you notice your post count going down... that is why.

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Wonder if they will go back and compare counts....you might be better off deleting threads...easier :)

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I just received a letter in the mail re-iterating they want the old posts removed. I am going to have to manually go back and delete posts. If you notice your post count going down... that is why.
Edited by Hasan4978

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I might have to delete Rock and SC Devs fan completely. I feel bad about that as both have contributed to the historical threads we have.

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I might have to delete Rock and SC Devs fan completely. I feel bad about that as both have contributed to the historical threads we have.

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if the star-ledger does this, there should definitely be a forum-wide boycott of viewing/using its articles. who needs its silly intrusive advertising anyway - gullitti's blog is far better than anything that clown chere is writing these days

cease and desist is one thing, but no one is citing old articles or looking for them on the forum.

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Just friggin great, you cannot delete the first post of a thread. Which means I will HAVE to delete entire threads. It would appear everyone is going to be taking a hit.

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You can't just edit the first post and put like DELETED or something?

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I don't see how that would take too much more time than just deleting the post itself. I would just copy and paste it over and over.

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Maybe you can move Rock's and SC's posts/threads to a hidden forum or something and then edit/delete them when you can and maybe restore any of their posts that aren't articles?

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RD's right, DM, you might as well just edit the posts. It won't take you much longer than deleting the threads in question. I'm not a lawyer nor do I play one on TV, but I'm pretty sure the Star-Ledger has no legal right to force you to delete entire discussions. The initial posts might be infringing, but there's no way responses discussing the articles are infringing on copyrights (unless the person was an idiot and quoted the entire article). Quoting a sentence or two in order to specifically address it qualifies as fair use.

EDIT: Sammy's got a good idea with moving the threads to a hidden forum. This takes them out of public view -- thus hopefully satisfying the S-L's demands -- and it gives you time to clean them and put them back into circulation.

Edited by RowdyFan42

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RD's right, DM, you might as well just edit the posts. It won't take you much longer than deleting the threads in question. I'm not a lawyer nor do I play one on TV, but I'm pretty sure the Star-Ledger has no legal right to force you to delete entire discussions. The initial posts might be infringing, but there's no way responses discussing the articles are infringing on copyrights (unless the person was an idiot and quoted the entire article). Quoting a sentence or two in order to specifically address it qualifies as fair use.

EDIT: Sammy's got a good idea with moving the threads to a hidden forum. This takes them out of public view -- thus hopefully satisfying the S-L's demands -- and it gives you time to clean them and put them back into circulation.

Edited by squishyx

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There is no way to do multiple threads at once. This is a pain in the arse process. Click thread (after searching) hit edit, paste "edited" click save edit go back two pages and start again.

Even moving the threads will take forever.

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There is no way to do multiple threads at once. This is a pain in the arse process. Click thread (after searching) hit edit, paste "edited" click save edit go back two pages and start again.

Even moving the threads will take forever.

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Wow that sucks, you can't move all threads by a certain poster?

C'mon Rowdy, use your skills and find a way! :P

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