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Revitalization Around The Rock

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I think this is a ridiculous idea. 1. Its not needed with the NJT links already on offer. 2. The Port Authority is the worst with construction projects and cost overruns. This magnitude of a project is not something they should be undertaking. They cant keep costs from the WTC site under control and are raising PATH fares for the next three years. 3. The PATH train is the slowest, noisiest, inefficient train I've ever been on. I dont see what an extension to EWR adds. What does it add to the south of the arena with a station stop at EWR?

Sorry man I couldn't disagree with you more on this. Access to the Path is a huge driver of development in NJ as it commands higher residency rates, rents and uliltmately bring vitality to an area that is otherwise blighted. South of the arena struggles and the South Ironbound isn't much better so what you bring by adding other stops is easy access to NYC which drives residents to choose between Brooklyn, Queens, JC, Hoboken AND Newark. Right now that access is limited to 10 minutes walking from Newark Penn Station. BTW, this fact is relected in numerous Newark planning studies as they can correlate that access and walking distance to development.

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Sorry man I couldn't disagree with you more on this. Access to the Path is a huge driver of development in NJ as it commands higher residency rates, rents and uliltmately bring vitality to an area that is otherwise blighted. South of the arena struggles and the South Ironbound isn't much better so what you bring by adding other stops is easy access to NYC which drives residents to choose between Brooklyn, Queens, JC, Hoboken AND Newark. Right now that access is limited to 10 minutes walking from Newark Penn Station. BTW, this fact is relected in numerous Newark planning studies as they can correlate that access and walking distance to development.

I know the path train is a driver of development. However, thats not the reason this would be built. If it were, it would be a lousy reason as much of the new line would be on the elevated rail, and the part that's on the ground is completely surrounded by track and industry. The south ironbound wouldn't have any greater access to the path. Those residents would still have to trek to Penn station. I hope you dont think this is some multi station proposal. The only extra station in this plan would be the airport, and that path service would add zero when you consider both njt and Amtrak head straight to midtown from there. I'm sure most business travelers and tourists stay in hotels that are not in lower manhattan too since there are few there. Ask yourself what the path would actually add.

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The lofts are awesome and everything, but can someone please tell me more about the Beer Garden that is supposedly open on Market? Its on the lofts website, under specialty retail, and sounds like it goes through to Edison.

http://www.beirgarten.com/

218 Market Street

Eisenflucht Beirgarten website

Eisenflucht Beirgarten is the newest drinking establishment opened on Restaurant Row directly across from the Prudential Center in Downtown Newark.

Conveniently located on Edison Place, Eisenflucht Beirgarten is in the heart of Newark’s revitalization sector, surrounded by the Prudential Center to the south, NJPAC to the north, the Ironbound to the east and Broad Street to the west — with Penn Station right in the middle.

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The website has no info other then opening summer 2012. Please tell me someone has pics or details about this place.

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The lofts are awesome and everything, but can someone please tell me more about the Beer Garden that is supposedly open on Market? Its on the lofts website, under specialty retail, and sounds like it goes through to Edison.

http://www.beirgarten.com/

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The website has no info other then opening summer 2012. Please tell me someone has pics or details about this place.

Did they close up that Jamaican place to build it?

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This is all I found with a quick google:

http://www.northjersey.com/news/156878735_Newark_businesses_shared_goal_luring_hockey_fans_inside.html?c=y&page=2

“At the train station, you see homeless people, beggars, people peeing,” said Laszlo Attila, 34, aRidgefield native. “That’s not friendly. You feel the poverty. Right there” — he pointed to a seemingly abandoned four-story structure on Edison Place — “is a boarded-up building.”

Precisely, says Brian Jarwoski of Franklin Lakes, the owner of Brick City Bar and Grill on Edison Place. A perfect example of Newark in transition. In a few months, that boarded-up building is going to be his next venture: Eisenflucht Biergarten, a drinking establishment with 48 residential apartments above. And starting this summer, Edison Place itself will be closed weekdays to create a pedestrian mall.

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These are a pretty big moves for the area and how it will look over the next few years...

http://www.nj.com/business/index.ssf/2012/12/newark_developers_to_present_p.html#incart_river_default

http://www.nj.com/business/index.ssf/2012/11/rockplaza_urban_lifestyle_in_t.html

Almost feels like a constant, what will happen first, the Devils start to play again or the whole neighborhood around them changes =-p

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Booker should hire Jaime Lerner and Give him "Carte Blanche" thats all.

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These are a pretty big moves for the area and how it will look over the next few years...

http://www.nj.com/bu...t_river_default

http://www.nj.com/bu...style_in_t.html

Almost feels like a constant, what will happen first, the Devils start to play again or the whole neighborhood around them changes =-p

Good news! Hope the established businesses arent suffering too much from the lockout. We need the momentum in this neighborhood to continue full steam ahead.

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I'm just dying to get the lockout over with and bet back in the playoffs so we can have all the restauratns rocking this spring =-)

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Very difficult and political when it comes to the IZOD,thankfully the Christie has been relatively pro Prudential Center but its difficult to close something that is perceived as being a job creator for another county.

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I always wondered why not to turn the big ass wall on Route 21 into a giant Grafitti Mural.

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Probably afraid the damn thing is gong to fall over =-p

In all sincerity there has been a concerted effort for arts projects like that throughout the city so one day you might see just that.

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Its been a long time since anyone posted in here. Does anyone have any pics or news about anything going on at The Rock for next season?

 

Just some info about the new Prudential Tower being built.

Company executives today detailed plans for integrating the project into the surrounding blocks, which include corridors like Halsey and New streets that connect Broad Street to the city's University Heights section. Richard Hummers, Prudential's vice president for financial management, said that strategy includes "wrapping" a 55-foot-tall parking garage with retail and art displays in order to drive pedestrian traffic around it.

http://www.njbiz.com/article/20130604/NJBIZ01/130609940/Prudential-details-plan-to-integrate-new-$444M-office-tower-at-ground-level-in-Newark&template=art

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The Newark Dino BBQ is finally getting some live music. I believe that all the other ones did except this one.

The Newark Dinosaur Bar-B-Que now has live jazz every Thursday. This Thursday, June 6, the Newark Dino will have The Urban Soul Collective featuring James Gibbs III playing from 5:30 to 8:30 p.m. There is no cover charge and parking tickets from the Edison ParkFast will be validated in the Dinosaur after 4 p.m., providing there is no event scheduled at the Prudential Center.

https://www.facebook.com/DinosaurBBQ

 

 

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Krauszer’s Food Stores is coming to Rock Plaza Lofts

Krauszer’s signed a 15-year lease for 2,300 square feet at 216 Market St., making its entry into the Newark commercial retail real estate market.  Krauszer is planning several more locations in Newark, according to Ketul Shah, owner of the Newark store.

This is pretty cool. There's definitely some times I want to get some coffee after a game, and they shut it down in the arena as soon as the games over. And I don't park by, or really liked, the coffee shop by the parking garage. 

I'm from SJ, so I don't know Krauszers. Is the place any good?

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Krauszer’s Food Stores is coming to Rock Plaza Lofts

This is pretty cool. There's definitely some times I want to get some coffee after a game, and they shut it down in the arena as soon as the games over. And I don't park by, or really liked, the coffee shop by the parking garage. 

I'm from SJ, so I don't know Krauszers. Is the place any good?

It's a smaler version of 7-Eleven. There's a few across Essex County.

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Yeah krauzers is about on par with 7-11 but not as good as quik chek or wawa

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Not a bad little quicke mart.. NOTHING compares to wawas though.. Why don't we have any in north jersey?

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Not a bad little quicke mart.. NOTHING compares to wawas though.. Why don't we have any in north jersey?

 

They are creeping into northern NJ.  There is one in Hillsborough and they are going to build one in Bridgewater with a gas station.

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Not a bad little quicke mart.. NOTHING compares to wawas though.. Why don't we have any in north jersey?

 

There's one in Parsippany on Edwards Rd.  The only place around that had gas during the aftermath of Hurricane Sandy.  Place is a gold mine.

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They are creeping into northern NJ.  There is one in Hillsborough and they are going to build one in Bridgewater with a gas station.

 

there's one in Oakland IIRC and one in Moonachie in south bergen county tho that one might've closed. They're around just not too prevalent

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