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I like the idea of letting goalies be fair game in theory, the only problem is the equipment isn't designed to absorb hits. And yea catching gloves are ridiculous.

Where were you a pro shop manager? I work at one now.

I worked for C&L Sports when it was in E. Hanover and Monsey, N.Y. (at Sport-o-rama) I put on a goalie chest and arm and the sales rep hit it with a baseball bat, not full force but a good blow. I didn't feel a thing. These things are designed to absorb slapshots over 100 mph. I say let them be fair game, outside of the crease. Goalies that aren't big or not excellent skaters will stay between the pipes and the more courageous will stray from time to time.

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Teams have too much invested in goalies, both in terms of $$$$ as well as their success - they need to be protected.

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I worked for C&L Sports when it was in E. Hanover and Monsey, N.Y. (at Sport-o-rama) I put on a goalie chest and arm and the sales rep hit it with a baseball bat, not full force but a good blow. I didn't feel a thing. These things are designed to absorb slapshots over 100 mph. I say let them be fair game, outside of the crease. Goalies that aren't big or not excellent skaters will stay between the pipes and the more courageous will stray from time to time.

Yea they are designed for that type of impact, that's different from being wiped out by a guy barreling into you. The big bulky leg pads I think might cause some awkward falls and result in a lot of knee problems if goalies were getting bodychecked. Also there is usually not much protection in the back of the chest protector.

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Because, no exaggeration now, he is the greatest person...ever.

Seriously. Ask him about the time he pushed a 12-year-old Devils fan away from in front of a speeding bus.

Enough already.

Can you exchange love letters in PM's from now on?

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The whole theory of making goalies fair game outside of the crease opens the league up to three ugly words: Intent To Injure. Everyone knows that making them fair game opens a whole Pandora's box of guys like Tucker or Avery taking unwarranted runs at goalies. That's actually the idea behind it. That goalies would think twice before leaving the crease for fear of getting hurt. And goalies WILL get hurt. Moreso than they already do. Anyone who thinks the level of contact that goalies already have to endure outside the crease isn't enough is just hoping for injuries. This idea and the logic behind it is so bush league that it makes my brain hurt.

Again, this concept is ONLY proposed by those who don't follow teams with puck-handling goalies. Just like the trapezoid.

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Can you exchange love letters in PM's from now on?

Heh...

NO.

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It wasn't a joke.

Okay.

*wink-wink*

No joke. Got it.

*wink-wink*

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Okay.

*wink-wink*

No joke. Got it.

*wink-wink*

I'd take these wise ass posts any day instead of those bullsh!t posts with the Rangers fans.

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I'd take these wise ass posts any day instead of those bullsh!t posts with the Rangers fans.

A-HA! So that's the problem...me mugging it up with Rangers fans.

It's not a war, brother. They're people, too. I think.

C'mon, ya little scamp. Let's get some ice cream. It's on me. I'll even spring for sprinkles.

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A-HA! So that's the problem...me mugging it up with Rangers fans.

It's not a war, brother. They're people, too. I think.

C'mon, ya little scamp. Let's get some ice cream. It's on me. I'll even spring for sprinkles.

Enough already. I don't find your whole thing funny. I'm not sure if you have fun getting on everybodys' nerves, but it's not funny, nor was it ever funny.

If you would like to offer the viewpoint of Rangers fans in an intelligent manor, that is perfectly fine. But enough with the exaggeration bullsh!t already.

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Enough already. I don't find your whole thing funny. I'm not sure if you have fun getting on everybodys' nerves, but it's not funny, nor was it ever funny.

If you would like to offer the viewpoint of Rangers fans in an intelligent manor, that is perfectly fine. But enough with the exaggeration bullsh!t already.

Methinks someone needs to learn how to use the ignore feature.

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Enough already. I don't find your whole thing funny. I'm not sure if you have fun getting on everybodys' nerves, but it's not funny, nor was it ever funny.

Whoa, whoa...what exactly are you trying to say? That it's not funny???

If you would like to offer the viewpoint of Rangers fans in an intelligent manor, that is perfectly fine. But enough with the exaggeration bullsh!t already.

Wow. How can I offer the viewpoint of a Rangers fan in an intelligent M-A-N-N-E-R when I'm a...ya know...Devils fan???

Please...put me in Ignore. Really, I won't be offended. I still love ya, though. No matter what.

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Assume I'm a non-playing genius all you want, because you're wrong. I won't assume that you don't play the game (but if you play "deck" hockey, please...deck hockey is a joke) because that's just asinine.

Tell you what, if you think DEK hockey not "deck" is a joke. Come on and join the league i play in in Morristown NJ on thursday nights. Running a full sized court, 4 on 4, 2 subs, 45 min game.

So come on down and give it a shot, let's see if you last.

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Tell you what, if you think DEK hockey not "deck" is a joke. Come on and join the league i play in in Morristown NJ on thursday nights. Running a full sized court, 4 on 4, 2 subs, 45 min game.

So come on down and give it a shot, let's see if you last.

I don't mean to bash dek hockey, but I strongly suggest to any dek hockey players that they learn to skate and play roller or ice. Hockey is just so much more fun when you are on skates. Learning to skate can be a pain in the ass, but it is definitely worth the effort in my opinion.

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I don't mean to bash dek hockey, but I strongly suggest to any dek hockey players that they learn to skate and play roller or ice. Hockey is just so much more fun when you are on skates. Learning to skate can be a pain in the ass, but it is definitely worth the effort in my opinion.

Who says we can't? I enjoy playing dek because it's great conditioning for my roller and ice seasons and it's a great verison of hockey to play.

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Methinks someone needs to learn how to use the ignore feature.

I don't like putting people on ignore, because I don't want to miss something intelligent or insightful he/she might say. In this case though, I don't think I'd be taking much of a risk.

Whoa, whoa...what exactly are you trying to say? That it's not funny???

You just don't quit, do you? You must think you're some kind of comedy genius.

Wow. How can I offer the viewpoint of a Rangers fan in an intelligent M-A-N-N-E-R when I'm a...ya know...Devils fan???

How was I supposed to know that you're a Devils fan?

Or, you seem to be great friends with Rangersfan. Go get a room, do what you've been wanting to do with him, and share your opinions. Then you can come back and tell us the point of view of a Rangers fan, having just learned it from your good friend.

BTW, I was typing quickly and used the incorrect form of a word; big deal. Get over yourself.

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Who says we can't? I enjoy playing dek because it's great conditioning for my roller and ice seasons and it's a great verison of hockey to play.

Wouldn't it be better conditioning to just keep playing ice or roller? Or do the roller and ice teams you're on have more players? I think if you can, it is always best to keep playing your regular sport in the offseason, especially if it is roller/ice hockey since the motion of skating is different than running so you're using different muscles.

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I don't like putting people on ignore, because I don't want to miss something intelligent or insightful he/she might say. In this case though, I don't think I'd be taking much of a risk.

Even I can't argue against that one. So do it. Nobody's stopping you.

You must think you're some kind of comedy genius.

Nope. But I sure do love pointing out when people are taking things wayyyyyyyyyyy too seriously. *ahem*

How was I supposed to know that you're a Devils fan?

I don't know...maybe the fact that this is a website for Devils fans...

...and I've been posting here for ages...

...constantly voicing my support for the team...

Uhhh...do you need me to continue?

Anyways, to recap: IGNORE button. Works like a charm.

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Wouldn't it be better conditioning to just keep playing ice or roller? Or do the roller and ice teams you're on have more players? I think if you can, it is always best to keep playing your regular sport in the offseason, especially if it is roller/ice hockey since the motion of skating is different than running so you're using different muscles.

Because, quite frankly, the level of behavior and immaturity in summer roller leagues due to the population of young college kids that infest the roller leagues is a disgrace. In the fall and winter the roller league and ice league i'm in is outstanding in the Morristown area as the older players return. As a matter of fact, there are roller teams in my fall/winter league that i feel are better then the pro team we share the building with.

I'm married, work a professional job, own a home and in my early 30's so traveling to play is out of the question like it was in my 20's, single and carefree. If i'm going to spend the cash, time to play and bitching from the wife, it sure as hell isn't going to be the Summer seasons where the college kids overrun it with no respect for anyone or anything.

I enjoy dek, it's fun, great conditioning and a challenging brand of hockey to play as it just isn't "run to the ball" and "run around like crazy". Just becuase there's no skates, doesn't take away any strategy and system play. Players are mostly equal with no skates as the skating ability is taken away. A ball is used which is a bitch to handle on a sport court as it travels pretty fast and it spins when it comes off the boards, plus with composite sticks and the patterns on blades shooting accurate can be a challenge in itself. People that bash it are normally the ones who wouldn't last a full season due to the physical drain it does take and the challenge it can provide. There are players in my league that are outstanding stick handlers and goal scorers so to say there are is no talent is far off and a lack of disrespect to playersa that have ability and work hard.

Also, my dek team that played in Wallington a few years ago, actually beat the "top" roller team there in a challenge game. The team we beat were no slouches. As a matter of fact, that team we beat had two players go on to play in the PIHA.

P.S. No disrespect to all young college age players that play. Problem is a majority of your peers give the good ones a bad name.

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Because, quite frankly, the level of behavior and immaturity in summer roller leagues due to the population of young college kids that infest the roller leagues is a disgrace. In the fall and winter the roller league and ice league i'm in is outstanding in the Morristown area as the older players return. As a matter of fact, there are roller teams in my fall/winter league that i feel are better then the pro team we share the building with.

I'm married, work a professional job, own a home and in my early 30's so traveling to play is out of the question like it was in my 20's, single and carefree. If i'm going to spend the cash, time to play and bitching from the wife, it sure as hell isn't going to be the Summer seasons where the college kids overrun it with no respect for anyone or anything.

I enjoy dek, it's fun, great conditioning and a challenging brand of hockey to play as it just isn't "run to the ball" and "run around like crazy". Just becuase there's no skates, doesn't take away any strategy and system play. Players are mostly equal with no skates as the skating ability is taken away. A ball is used which is a bitch to handle on a sport court as it travels pretty fast and it spins when it comes off the boards, plus with composite sticks and the patterns on blades shooting accurate can be a challenge in itself. People that bash it are normally the ones who wouldn't last a full season due to the physical drain it does take and the challenge it can provide. There are players in my league that are outstanding stick handlers and goal scorers so to say there are is no talent is far off and a lack of disrespect to playersa that have ability and work hard.

Also, my dek team that played in Wallington a few years ago, actually beat the "top" roller team there in a challenge game. The team we beat were no slouches. As a matter of fact, that team we beat had two players go on to play in the PIHA.

P.S. No disrespect to all young college age players that play. Problem is a majority of your peers give the good ones a bad name.

I never said anything about lack of talent or strategy regarding dek hockey. I just assumed since you played dek it was because you didn't skate, and was stating my opinion that roller and ice are just more fun. I have respect for dek hockey players, I just feel that those who only play dek are missing out. Sorry for making that incorrect assumption.

That sucks about the college kids being a$$holes, where I play it's quite the opposite. The old angry guys are the ones throwing punches, running goalies, starting fights, etc. Maybe my team just has more sportsmanship, I don't know many other college guys playing in my league other than my team.

Back to dek hockey, I used to play goalie in a dek hockey league so I understand there is strategy etc. I hated using the ball, I think it took a lot away from the game. Shooting accurately is practically impossible because it is too light, so it curves and dips as it heads toward the net. From the goalie's perspective, it makes it that much harder. I have no idea how many goals I gave up because it was going high glove and ended up going in under my blocker. I think that took away from the game because it took away from the talent involved in scoring goals.

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Shooting accurately is practically impossible because it is too light, so it curves and dips as it heads toward the net. From the goalie's perspective, it makes it that much harder. I have no idea how many goals I gave up because it was going high glove and ended up going in under my blocker. I think that took away from the game because it took away from the talent involved in scoring goals.

I have to agree with this aspect of dek hockey. I played goal for a team in Morristown's dek league last season and it was a ton of fun...those shots are damn frusturating though. One shot came from the blueline and I swear it dipped like a splitter through my five hole. Grrrrr...

BTW, unknown poster, if you know anybody in Morristown who needs a goalie, let me know...the team I play for didn't resign for the current season and I'm dying to get some ice..errr...rink time :D

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I have to agree with this aspect of dek hockey. I played goal for a team in Morristown's dek league last season and it was a ton of fun...those shots are damn frusturating though. One shot came from the blueline and I swear it dipped like a splitter through my five hole. Grrrrr...

BTW, unknown poster, if you know anybody in Morristown who needs a goalie, let me know...the team I play for didn't resign for the current season and I'm dying to get some ice..errr...rink time :D

Bullet, shoot me an email @ pando20devils@aol.com. I'm not going to play in the summer league, (Aug/Sept), but i'll be back in the Fall (Oct). I am looking at putting my own team in there to help out Mike with the number of teams in the league, and i'll need a goalie.

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A-HA! So that's the problem...me mugging it up with Rangers fans.

It's not a war, brother. They're people, too. I think.

C'mon, ya little scamp. Let's get some ice cream. It's on me. I'll even spring for sprinkles.

ICE CREAM!? Where?!

You know, I leave for a few days and you're waging war without me...

...isn't that what I'm here for?

I'm rather surprised at the backlash you're getting. For what exactly? For being civil? For acknowledging that *ahem* I come in peace?

I'm here to simply be civilized and have a somewhat intelligent (often times witty) conversation about hockey and a little about our cross-river rivalry.

By the why Croey: I have some good news and I have some bad news.

The bad news is that I'm awaiting torture. Apparently the Malleus Malicarum is being used once again *sigh*. Apparently leaving my religion for CroMagism is blasphemy...who would have thought!

The good news is: I'm faithful! (Ignore the double entrede)

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