Devils Pride 26 Posted July 10, 2009 Share Posted July 10, 2009 fire and ice I asked Lamoriello if Corrente and Eckford are ready to compete for NHL jobs in training camp in September."Yes," he said. "It's going to be very interesting. I'm very excited about our defense." Right now, the Devils have Paul Martin, Johnny Oduya, Colin White, Mike Mottau, Bryce Salvador, Andy Greene as their top six NHL defensemen with Jay Leach, who bounced between Lowell and New Jersey last season, as a possible seventh. I was pretty sure about Corrente but didn't know Lou thought so highly of Eckford. I'd love to see him crack the lineup if he's ready. Big guy that can skate and run a PP. If Whte isn't paied with Oduya, then I really think he should be with someone that can skate. Martin - Oduya White - Eckford Salvador - Corrente or Martin - Corrente White - Oduya Salvador - Eckford There's a lot of possible combinations. My thinking is the Devils usual defensive paired with a PMD. Asking Corrente to play on the top pair is a feeling I have based on how the Devils tend to break in promising defensemen, with the best guy at their side. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Devils731 Posted July 10, 2009 Share Posted July 10, 2009 I think Greene and Eckford will be two guys going head to head a little. Both guys don't bring too much on the defensive end so would be expected to contribute offense/PP to bring value to the team. I tend to think the team would go with Greene and let Eckford get major minutes in the AHL unless Eckford just blows them away. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
msweet Posted July 10, 2009 Share Posted July 10, 2009 How long does Salavdor have? His best career move might be getting injured. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CRASHER Posted July 10, 2009 Share Posted July 10, 2009 How long does Salavdor have?His best career move might be getting injured. 4 year deal was it not?? I still think he's somewhat tradable for decent value Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Triumph Posted July 10, 2009 Share Posted July 10, 2009 I still think [salvador is] somewhat tradable for decent value i wish. i think this is just kinda lou-speak; he's not going to say eckford and corrente aren't in the running, certainly. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Devils Pride 26 Posted July 10, 2009 Author Share Posted July 10, 2009 4 year deal was it not??I still think he's somewhat tradable for decent value I sadly disagree. There's a ton of players that can do what Sal does and they don't cost 2.9M per either. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SC Devs Fan Posted July 10, 2009 Share Posted July 10, 2009 Again, what is Lou to say - that he hs no faith in the kids? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Devils Pride 26 Posted July 10, 2009 Author Share Posted July 10, 2009 Well, we have 6 guys that he could throw out there if he didn't want the kids. At least he didn't ramble on about how the defense was fine last year and these 6 our his guys. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sundstrom Posted July 10, 2009 Share Posted July 10, 2009 depending on camp - it is possible lou makes a move and sends a defenseman out - likely salvador. that being said, these things have a way of working themselves out with injuries. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DaneykoIsGod Posted July 10, 2009 Share Posted July 10, 2009 Corrente got a pretty good look last training camp, right? Or maybe that was the year before ... can't remember. Either way, I remember getting the feeling that either this year or next year would be the season where he really got his shot. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jerrydevil Posted July 10, 2009 Share Posted July 10, 2009 that being said, these things have a way of working themselves out with injuries. With Salvador, you can almost count on that. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Devil Dan 56 Posted July 10, 2009 Share Posted July 10, 2009 Wow, whats with all the Salvador hate? For a guy whose only been here a year, I think he's already a Devil's type of guy. He's just a blue collar stay at home defenseman, responsible in his zone. How could Lou pay White 3 million and not offer Salvador close to that? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
adavid Posted July 10, 2009 Share Posted July 10, 2009 Wow, whats with all the Salvador hate? For a guy whose only been here a year, I think he's already a Devil's type of guy. He's just a blue collar stay at home defenseman, responsible in his zone. How could Lou pay White 3 million and not offer Salvador close to that? I was wondering that myself, but figured I must have missed something. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GA Devil Posted July 10, 2009 Share Posted July 10, 2009 Corrente got a pretty good look last training camp, right? Or maybe that was the year before ... can't remember. Either way, I remember getting the feeling that either this year or next year would be the season where he really got his shot. Yeah, the camp immediately after he was drafted he appeared to impress the brass quite a bit. The camp or camps after.....not so much. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Devilsdude530 Posted July 10, 2009 Share Posted July 10, 2009 4 year deal was it not??I still think he's somewhat tradable for decent value Oh yeah Crash, the guy we got for Cam Janssen must have all kinds of demands from around the league. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Devil Dan 56 Posted July 10, 2009 Share Posted July 10, 2009 I was wondering that myself, but figured I must have missed something. I don't remember Salvador doing anything to warrant the hate. Yeah, he gets hurt, but thats the price you pay with his style. He's a good team guy, stands up for his team mates. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jerrydevil Posted July 10, 2009 Share Posted July 10, 2009 How could Lou pay White 3 million and not offer Salvador close to that? Easy. You just don't. You're supposed to learn from mistakes, not compound them. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bostondevil11 Posted July 10, 2009 Share Posted July 10, 2009 I don't remember Salvador doing anything to warrant the hate. Yeah, he gets hurt, but thats the price you pay with his style. He's a good team guy, stands up for his team mates. Agreed. DOn't get the Salvador hate myself. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
adavid Posted July 10, 2009 Share Posted July 10, 2009 I don't remember Salvador doing anything to warrant the hate. Yeah, he gets hurt, but thats the price you pay with his style. He's a good team guy, stands up for his team mates. Willing to block those shots, engage in a scrap or two...I thought he went a long way to fit in last year. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Devil Dan 56 Posted July 10, 2009 Share Posted July 10, 2009 Easy. You just don't. You're supposed to learn from mistakes, not compound them. The White contract wasn't a mistake. You can't predict an eye injury, and before that, he was a much more reliable defenseman. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
metallidevils Posted July 10, 2009 Share Posted July 10, 2009 If this quote by Lou is 'interesting', there can't be such a thing as an uninteresting quote from him Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DaneykoIsGod Posted July 10, 2009 Share Posted July 10, 2009 Wow, whats with all the Salvador hate? For a guy whose only been here a year, I think he's already a Devil's type of guy. He's just a blue collar stay at home defenseman, responsible in his zone. How could Lou pay White 3 million and not offer Salvador close to that? I like Salvador too, but I think the general dislike isn't so much for anything that he brings to the table, it's what he doesn't bring to the table. Defensemen (and forwards too, for that matter) who only excel in the defensive aspect of the game just aren't as valuable as they used to be. When Sal was re-upped, there was a fairly strong sentiment around here that the money coulda been better spent on someone who had more puck skills. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jerrydevil Posted July 10, 2009 Share Posted July 10, 2009 I like Salvador too, but I think the general dislike isn't so much for anything that he brings to the table, it's what he doesn't bring to the table. Defensemen (and forwards too, for that matter) who only excel in the defensive aspect of the game just aren't as valuable as they used to be. When Sal was re-upped, there was a fairly strong sentiment around here that the money coulda been better spent on someone who had more puck skills. Bingo. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Devils Pride 26 Posted July 10, 2009 Author Share Posted July 10, 2009 If this quote by Lou is 'interesting', there can't be such a thing as an uninteresting quote from him fvck off, don't you have a p!ss and moan thread to go make? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Devils Pride 26 Posted July 10, 2009 Author Share Posted July 10, 2009 I like Salvador too, but I think the general dislike isn't so much for anything that he brings to the table, it's what he doesn't bring to the table. Defensemen (and forwards too, for that matter) who only excel in the defensive aspect of the game just aren't as valuable as they used to be. When Sal was re-upped, there was a fairly strong sentiment around here that the money coulda been better spent on someone who had more puck skills. To reply from your first question about Corrente, the camp where he blew everyone away and probably should have made the team he was 19. It put the Devils in a tough spot because if they kept him on the 23 man roster they wouldn't have been able to send him to the AHL if he struggled because you have to be 20 to play in the AHL. I don't think they would've been allowed to send him back to the juniors either. Your post here is bang on. If I could add on, I would say having Sal AND White is what makes it painful. You can live with one of them, but now you have two mid pairing defensemen that are one dimensional eating up 6M. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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