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the devils really cannot trade anyone. everyone either has a no-trade clause, is on a bad contract, or is on a good contract. the devils don't have a player like lauri korpikoski who's kind of overpaid and kind of good and kind of young.

rolston was miserable at center last year, jdub. it'll be interesting to see who ends up with it.

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the devils really cannot trade anyone. everyone either has a no-trade clause, is on a bad contract, or is on a good contract. the devils don't have a player like lauri korpikoski who's kind of overpaid and kind of good and kind of young.

rolston was miserable at center last year, jdub. it'll be interesting to see who ends up with it.

You're right, but something is gonna probably happen before camp. I can't see Lou taking this roster into opeing night.

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Phil Kessel's out there as well. Not looking like he's headed back to Boston...

http://www.examiner.com/x-2711-Boston-Bruins-Examiner~y2009m7d7-The-Boston-Bruins-future-without-Phil-Kessel

He'll be out for the first couple months of the season recovering from shoulder surgery, but after that, is there any reason to believe he won't return to form?

We don't have the pieces to trade, nor do we have the money to sign Kessel. Never happen.

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although I'm not sure about moving a wing to center, as opposed to getting a Malhotra, it seems that what we will do

P - Z - L

Elias - Rolston - Clarkson (or Elias as center, Rolston on wing)

Shanny ? - Zubrus - Bergfors

Pando - Pelly - Pikka

P3L rotating with Pando/Pikka

We can't have Pando be the 3rd line wing, but without Shanny that may happen, at least part of the time.

Better to have Rolston on the 3rd line LW and get a 2nd line Center !

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SAN JOSE - The San Jose Sharks have signed center Scott Nichol, adding veteran depth to their changing lineup.

Nichol spent the past four seasons with the Nashville Predators, scoring 10 points in 43 games last season while missing extensive playing time with a concussion.

Nichol is likely to play on the Sharks' fourth line in place of center Marcel Goc, who won't be re-signed by the Sharks.

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nichol might've been interesting but i think new jersey already has a player like him in pikkarainen.

(i know you posted that only for the goc news - definitely think lou's got to have his eye on marcel goc)

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I think, if anything, this shows us we have more depth than everybody thinks and we could package a couple guys for a decent 2nd line center. Say we sign Shanny, as Lou has said he wants to do.ZZPopsElias ____ RolstonShanny Zubrus ClarksonPando Pelley PikkarainenOduya MartinWhite SalvadorMottau Greene/CorrenteThat leaves Halischuk, Bergfors, PL3, and Greene or Corrente as possible trade bait. Halischuk/Bergfors and Corrente for a 2nd line center? Doesn't seem out of the question to me. Or Clarkson, Halischuk, and Greene, plugging Bergfors into the 3rd line RW slot? Lou has said he'd look into trades, and TG thinks our 2nd line center will come via trade as well.

San Jose needs cap space and a 3rd line RW. Send Bergfors, Clarkson, Pando and next years 1st to the Sharks for Marleau. The reason I think the Sharks might do it is:

1. They have Logan Couture waiting in the wings at C to replace Marleau.

2. Clarkson gives them the 3rd line RW and grit they need for cheap.

3. They don't have any top line talent coming through the system at RW, so Bergfors addresses that.

4. By taking Pando back it should work for both teams salary cap.

That leaves us with:

Elias - Marleau - Rolston

Parise - Zajac - Langenbrunner

Shannahan - Zubrus - Halischuk

PL3 - Pelley - Pikkarainen

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philly:

that leaves the team absolutely destitute when marleau walks. if the devils sent a 1st with bergfors and clarkson, lou is officially delusional - you have shanahan and marleau walking with absolutely no replacement for them on the horizon, and no money with which to sign anyone halfway decent. (i suppose the 1st is inducement for the sharks to take pandolfo). i mean, it's a cup contender i suppose, but it sure is putting all the eggs in one basket - the devils would be likely to miss the playoffs in 2011.

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Just out of curiosity, Tri - any reason you left Jason Williams off the list? He's good as a complimentary scorer/2nd liner, as he's shown in his career. He runs into problems when he's expected to really help carry the load (see: Atlanta). In a secondary role like Columbus (and his last season in Chicago) he does well for himself.

If his faceoff percentage wasn't so low, I'd be adamantly stumping for Lou to take a chance on him. As it is, I don't think he'd be that expensive and he can handle C or RW. Just depends how Lou envisions rounding out those second and third lines.

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Just out of curiosity, Tri - any reason you left Jason Williams off the list? He's good as a complimentary scorer/2nd liner, as he's shown in his career. He runs into problems when he's expected to really help carry the load (see: Atlanta). In a secondary role like Columbus (and his last season in Chicago) he does well for himself.

If his faceoff percentage wasn't so low, I'd be adamantly stumping for Lou to take a chance on him. As it is, I don't think he'd be that expensive and he can handle C or RW. Just depends how Lou envisions rounding out those second and third lines.

mike comrie isn't there either, and i don't think either one is in the devils' plans. i don't think williams fits into this team - he's not a good center, and right wing is all booked up. basically i think there's a reason he's been on 4 teams since the lockout, he's weak defensively and he's essentially a power play specialist - he's a lot like mark recchi, actually.

if he were lw/c i could see signing him up, but there can't be anyone who takes away ice time from bergfors or clarkson, and williams would probably do just that while not solving the center problem at all.

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Ah, see, while I did mention positives about Williams as a low-rent addition, I didn't mean solely for the Devils. Didn't realize your list on the first page was pointedly directed at good options for the Devils.

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Im intrigued by Cory Murphy.

25 games for Tampa last season 5 goals 10 assists 15 points.I seriousley doubt he could manage that across an entire season but that would have out him 4th in points out of all our D men last season. If none of the guys from lowell make the team this year he could be a good guy to have around for when Greene forgets what sport he is playing for 30 or so games.

Oduya/Martin

White/Mottau

Salvador/Greene or Murphy

Still would like to see us pick up Dominic Moore as well. 45 points in 82 games last year is really not a bad return. Play him between Elias and Rolston and thats not a bad line at all.

Parise/Zajac/Langs

Elias/Moore/Rolston

Pandolfo/Zubrus/Clarkson

Pikka/Pelley/Bergfors

spare; P3L

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With the way Lou has been these last two years, is it possible that he may be looking into Sykora? I mean he got Rolston,Holik, and Shanny back last year, so is it possible or likely?

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Ah, see, while I did mention positives about Williams as a low-rent addition, I didn't mean solely for the Devils. Didn't realize your list on the first page was pointedly directed at good options for the Devils.

yeah i didn't make that clear, sorry - it was both general and specific. i don't see new jersey adding a LW or RW.

Im intrigued by Cory Murphy.

25 games for Tampa last season 5 goals 10 assists 15 points.I seriousley doubt he could manage that across an entire season but that would have out him 4th in points out of all our D men last season. If none of the guys from lowell make the team this year he could be a good guy to have around for when Greene forgets what sport he is playing for 30 or so games.

to me, murphy and greene's skill sets are too similar. murphy is 31 - he has to go somewhere where he can get as much playing time as possible, and that place isn't here. if he can parlay a good season somewhere, maybe he gets a multi-million dollar contract next season.

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Im intrigued by Cory Murphy.

25 games for Tampa last season 5 goals 10 assists 15 points.I seriousley doubt he could manage that across an entire season but that would have out him 4th in points out of all our D men last season. If none of the guys from lowell make the team this year he could be a good guy to have around for when Greene forgets what sport he is playing for 30 or so games.

Along the lines of what Tri said, I followed Murphy closely once he made it to the NHL. He was getting lots of comparisons to Brian Rafalski (surprise surprise). He good off to a great start as a rookie, putting up 17 points in 47 games... but then missed the rest of the season with a shoulder injury. The next season, he sustained another shoulder injury that knocked him out for half the season... and when he played, it's clear he wasn't healthy. Finally getting shipped to Tampa Bay was a blessing for him because he got lots of ice time, lots of PP time, and could be a specialist. Now granted, 15 points in 25 games is nothing to sneeze at, nor is being a -3 on a terrible Tampa team. He's a low risk/high reward player, but you gotta have room for him on your team.

Surprised Atlanta's not gambling on him, but they have Enstrom and Salmela. I'd say Columbus should gamble, but they're grooming Kris Russel. Maybe Buffalo, NYI, Phoenix... St. Louis if they're not convinced Pietrangelo is ready.

Still would like to see us pick up Dominic Moore as well. 45 points in 82 games last year is really not a bad return. Play him between Elias and Rolston and thats not a bad line at all.

Parise/Zajac/Langs

Elias/Moore/Rolston

Pandolfo/Zubrus/Clarkson

Pikka/Pelley/Bergfors

spare; P3L

I'm still not entirely convinced Moore isn't the second coming of Rico Fata. Seems allergic to scoring for years in the NHL, then has one very productive season on a bad team. I haven't seen him play all that much, admittedly, but I don't have the guts to proclaim him an outright 2nd line center yet in the NHL.

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Im intrigued by Cory Murphy.

25 games for Tampa last season 5 goals 10 assists 15 points.I seriousley doubt he could manage that across an entire season but that would have out him 4th in points out of all our D men last season. If none of the guys from lowell make the team this year he could be a good guy to have around for when Greene forgets what sport he is playing for 30 or so games.

Along the lines of what Tri said, I followed Murphy closely once he made it to the NHL. He was getting lots of comparisons to Brian Rafalski (surprise surprise). He good off to a great start as a rookie, putting up 17 points in 47 games... but then missed the rest of the season with a shoulder injury. The next season, he sustained another shoulder injury that knocked him out for half the season... and when he played, it's clear he wasn't healthy. Finally getting shipped to Tampa Bay was a blessing for him because he got lots of ice time, lots of PP time, and could be a specialist. Now granted, 15 points in 25 games is nothing to sneeze at, nor is being a -3 on a terrible Tampa team. He's a low risk/high reward player, but you gotta have room for him on your team.

Surprised Atlanta's not gambling on him, but they have Enstrom and Salmela. I'd say Columbus should gamble, but they're grooming Kris Russel. Maybe Buffalo, NYI, Phoenix... St. Louis if they're not convinced Pietrangelo is ready.

or... new jersey.

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Get out of my head LOU !!!!

Zubrus, Rolston and now Murphy.

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nichol might've been interesting but i think new jersey already has a player like him in pikkarainen.

(i know you posted that only for the goc news - definitely think lou's got to have his eye on marcel goc)

on a side note... remember Sascha Goc? lol god he sucked

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Aaron Portzline from the Columbus Dispatch reporting that Atlanta has offered a 4-year, $8 million contract to Manny Malhotra - but Malhotra is holding out for offers from other clubs, even if it's for potentially less money.

Just an interesting tidbit to throw in there amidst all these discussions of just how much money Malhotra could bring in after a few seasons with inflated stats.

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nice info, i_g

i'd offer malhotra 3/5.5 easily. if josefson is being blocked, zubrus can always be moved to wing, or rod pelley moved to 13th forward

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i'd offer malhotra 3/5.5 easily.

I was shocked that his top offer is $2mil per from Atlanta. I guess teams are taking this salary cap more seriously than I thought they would. If the Devils could get Manny for 1.5 - 1.75, he's be a great pickup for a short-term plug. While he's no solution for second line center, he's shown that he can put up points when paired with talent. Not that I'd expect more than 40 points out of him in a really good year, but still.

I wonder how most teams are viewing Moore now. If Malhotra's top offer is $2mil, does that put Moore in the same range from most clubs?

if josefson is being blocked, zubrus can always be moved to wing, or rod pelley moved to 13th forward

Ah, Rod Pelley becomes the new Cam Janssen.

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i'd offer malhotra 3/5.5 easily.

If you could get him for half the price that madden would've cost, you have to do it as long as its short term

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i'd offer malhotra 3/5.5 easily.

I was shocked that his top offer is $2mil per from Atlanta. I guess teams are taking this salary cap more seriously than I thought they would. If the Devils could get Manny for 1.5 - 1.75, he's be a great pickup for a short-term plug. While he's no solution for second line center, he's shown that he can put up points when paired with talent. Not that I'd expect more than 40 points out of him in a really good year, but still.

I wonder how most teams are viewing Moore now. If Malhotra's top offer is $2mil, does that put Moore in the same range from most clubs?

if josefson is being blocked, zubrus can always be moved to wing, or rod pelley moved to 13th forward

Ah, Rod Pelley becomes the new Cam Janssen.

Im not so sure its how teams view Moore thats the problem, its how Moore views himself. He put up career point totals for the leafs, but did nothing for the Sabres during the stretch run. Never in his career did he score at the pace he did for the leafs this year. It wasnt so much his goal numbers that were inflated, it was the assists. Perhaps a byproduct of playing with better wingers than he ever had, but he was forced into a more prominent role than ever before. So which player are you getting? If i am a playoff team or on the brink of making it you are looking for guys that consistently make a difference. With the league wide shortage of centers a guy who is capable of 40 points in the right situation should be able to find a home. Rumors around the deadline had Moore looking for around 3m a year, lunacy on his part really. He eventually came to some sense at about 2.5. Still a lot of coin for a guy with 1 good year, who has never played a big role on a team with playoff aspirations.

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