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Gdt: Ps Game 1 Rangers @ Devils 9/16/09

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Devils731    36

Well my thoughts from the game.

Bergfors was poised and making things happen when he was around the puck. Based off of this game there is no reason he can't play in an offensive role for the Devils this season.

Murphy was good, but he didn't have much pressure defensively, which is his weak point, so I don't know if this game told us much.

Fraser was physical, but without much pressure from the Rangers I don't know what we can really tell from the defensive side of the defenseman,

Urbom didn't screw anything up but didn't have many big plays to make, but I think that's pretty good for an 18 year old. It wouldn't surprise me if he was fairly dominant in juniors.

Illka Pik didn't do very much. I'm sure that wasn't the game he would have liked to play.

Zharkov was attacking the puck and looked better than his linemate Cormier who looked like a guy coming out of juniors.

Gilroy, as someone mentioned above, was all over the place....the problem is that half the time it was behind the Devils net. The Devils had 4 or 5 odd man rush opportunities off of Gilroy's aggressiveness. I think that's what the Rangers coaching style wants but it doesn't seem to me like that will work against NHL players. Who was that defenseman that played for Colorado and Carolina who was really more like a 4th forward? I can't remember his name but that's who he reminds me of off of the last 2 games.

Grachev was really making things work for the Rangers, he was easily the most impressive Ranger, to me.

Parise was really selfish with the puck tonight, and it's only preseason, but I thought he got that was in a lot of the second half last season. He was taking too many "no chance" type shots tonight, long no screen snap shots and such.

Danis looked nice. I see no reason he can't be a backup. He was really good with the Isles last season as well.

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Stylistically, the Devils were much more on the puck than the last 2 years. Much more likely to leave their zone to attack the puck carrier. The team was running around at times because of that but overall I think that will be beneficial to the team in the long run.

It's only a preason game but if this is the style of game the Devils try to play during the season it'll be strong defensively and offensively than last year, I bet.

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Triumph    641

i'll probably just repeat what 731 said, i also attended the game, thanks to an njdevs member -

zharkov - drew the penalty in overtime obviously, made some good plays, had one bad turnover, but all in all there's a lot of good there.

cormier - didn't thrill me. made some nice hits, but took a bad penalty and made some mistakes without the puck. seemed to do well on faceoffs though - i recall two offensive zone draws he won.

pikkarainen - meh. threw a big hit, otherwise nothing of substance really. had an okay shift with parise and zajac late.

danis was obviously impressive, didn't seem to make a mistake all night

urbom - not nhl ready, but who would be? i'll be shocked if he gets less than half a point a game in junior. he skates well and didn't make too many mistakes - it's easy to see why the devils' brass is really excited about him.

murphy - eh. made one very nice breakout, but on the power play he wasn't making confident moves. i also didn't like the angle he took on gilroy in OT when gilroy almost skated away with a breakaway.

fraser - obviously like the fight, didn't notice him really anywhere else, which i think is good.

bergfors - had at least one nice shot, and one heads up play in OT where if oduya had been paying attention he could've gotten a breakaway.

pelley - didn't like what i saw, and if he, pikkarainen, and leblond is the 4th line this year, i think they're going to struggle a bit

all in all, i wasn't blown away by anyone, but i liked a lot of what was going on. zubrus on the PK is an improvement, in my eyes.

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731 - are you thinking of sandis ozolinsh? gilroy was definitely the player i was most impressed with from the rangers, but i agree that his gambling might land him in the tom poti doghouse after a bit.

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sundstrom    256

bergfors - had at least one nice shot, and one heads up play in OT where if oduya had been paying attention he could've gotten a breakaway.

don't you mean rolston ;)

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maxpower    21

Clarkson is a UFA after this season??? I thought he was a RFA! They just said he's gonna be a UFA after this year because he was undrafted so he becomes a UFA much younger than the others.

this sucks!!

Clarkson is an RFA.

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NYGDevils32    0

Won't be able to see many games here in PA... sucks. Glad to hear we are off on the right foot. Screw the Rags.

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njdevil26    24

Back from the game and some drinks...

Okay first, our vets:

Parise- all over the place. The kid never stops skating. I saw a few instances where he could have passed but took the shot. Wouldn't say he was being selfish... just hard working. That was one of the prettiest moves I've seen in a long time in the shootout.

Zajac- He is going to get better and better every year. Much more confident, much more physical. That shot he had in the shootout was ridiculous.

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Zubrus- played very solid. I really like him as a center and he was good on the penalty kill. He and Lemaire should get along nicely.

Rolston- Is he going to be the new Gionta and shoot from the circle every chance he gets? I liked his PK pairing with Zubrus but I doubt he'll be used with Elias and Langs are playing. I can see the PK being Elias-Clarkson, Zubrus-Parise, Zajac-Langenbrunner. Rolston didn't really impress me tonight.

Clarkson- Like Zajac, he's getting better and better. His first goal was a result of hard work. The second was a terrific shot. He was used on the PK and PP tonight too which was good. Less falling down and no wraparound attempts also. Great game for him.

Shanahan- One of the worst Devils of the night. Took a penalty and just looked a step behind. Maybe putting him with the kids is Lemaire's way of saying "get in shape fast old man." He'll be fine on the third or fourth line.

Oduya- Did NOT have a good game. Made a few mistakes and did nothing offensively.

Salvador- Was Salvador, nothing bad, nothing spectacular.

Mottau- Made a few good defensive plays and isn't afraid to take a shot. He is very underrated and a good skater.

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Guys that are trying to take spots on the roster...

Pelley- Never liked him. He doesn't do anything for me

Pikkarainen- Did nothing spectacular either. He can hit and he's not a terrible skater but I just don't see room for him

Cormier- Didn't do anything crazy but I can see with some work he'll be a solid player. He's very young and at first it looked like he and Urbom were trying way too hard. Good skater

Urbom- Same, looked to be trying too hard. In warmups he was doing some interesting things, but seemed to lose that confidence going into the game. Give him a few more games and see where he's at.

Zharkov- Impressed with this kid! Fast, strong on the puck, smart... hope to see him more.

Bergfors- It seems this may be the year he finally cracks the lineup. He's turning into a good two-way forward. Had an assist tonight by getting the puck to the net on Clarkson's first goal.

Murphy- Looked pretty good. We were calling him Murphy Brown for funsies. He's a small guy and could take Andy Greene's spot.

Fraser- Looked good in the fight but nowhere else.

Leblond- Didn't do anything special

Danis- Very solid. Very impressed with him tonight.

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Rangers-

Avery- God I hate that guy.

Gilroy- This kid is going to be AWESOME. He also led the Rangers in ice time tonight with 28 min

Kotalik and Prospal are going to be dead weight.

I loved laughing at the people sporting Zherdev, Dubinksy, and Gomez jerseys haha.

Also a shoutout to the douche bag Ranger fans in section 6 texting and shouting Devils suck and Let's go Rangers during the national anthem. You guys are some classy douche nozzles.

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And number 85 on the Rangers... WHO THE HELL IS MACCARONE!!!??? WHAT A RIDICULOUS MUSTACHE!! He's not even listed on the box score where the hell did this guy come from?!? Macaroni!!

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DaneykoIsGod    120

I remembered! Matt Gilroy looks exactly like Sandis Ozolinsh so far.

That guy is a defenseman?! Holy crap, with the way he was playing I just assumed he was a forward.

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Devils731    36

That guy is a defenseman?! Holy crap, with the way he was playing I just assumed he was a forward.

Ya, he was up ahead of the forwards on a lot of plays. I know Tortella likes an active defense but he was the Ranger deepest in the zone at times, which I can't think works in the long term. I started pointing it out to my Dad in the 3rd period and we caught him 3 or 4 times circling behind the Devils net to get back on defense. Even on his goal, he was the second man up the ice, a forward should be there, not a defenseman, unless the Rangers figure since most of their forwards can't score they must be good enough to play defenseman.

Now he has some nice tools, good stickwork and nice skating, but if you're going to be a disaster on defense then you probably need to put up 50 points or something to be a benefit to the team.

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brickwall30    0

"And number 85 on the Rangers... WHO THE HELL IS MACCARONE!!!??? WHAT A RIDICULOUS MUSTACHE!! He's not even listed on the box score where the hell did this guy come from?!? Macaroni!!" --- njdevil26

haha I though the same but I was pronouncing his name like the cookie ... a macca-rune. lol to each their own.

Also I would agree with the majority here that think Urbom is gonna be something special, but not just yet. Maybe a year each of juniors and AHL play then graduate the guy up. no need to hurry someone like this when we have a glut of decent defence to use until he's good and ready. In the same regard I would wait on Cormier for maybe another year or so, though if having him on the team kicks Pelly out of his Lou given birthright position on the team then he couldn't take it fast enough ... I really don't like Pelly. He is what everyone who was a Madden hater made him out to be (a useless lump whos only purpose was to try to prevent someone from scoring for a shift without the slightest chance of scoring). Madden could score, and coincidently was a master of the defensive side of the game. people forget that he set and still has our AHL affiliate record for points in a season at 98points, and Pelly couldn't even match Madden's output from the NHL while he - Pelly - played in the AHL.

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DevilNurn    5

Didn't see anything but the third period, OT and the shootout, but just so glad to see Zach up to his crazy shootout antics after a summer of void...and glad to see Clarkson perform with some previously unseen leadership causes. Good to see him excel among young guys. And this team makes me want Bergfors on my team.

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Didn't like the idea the Devils sat back thinking they won the game 2-0 in the 3rd period, but it was nice that they pulled out the win in the shootout 3-2. Parise and Zajac came up big in that shootout for the Devils. Danis played very well too.

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NJ4life    0

Clarkson is an RFA.

No he's not! They had a whole conversation about him and why he is a UFA after this season including referring to a conversation with him about how he is a UFA after this season at a very young age because he was an undrafted player.

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Devs3cups    47
No he's not! They had a whole conversation about him and why he is a UFA after this season including referring to a conversation with him about how he is a UFA after this season at a very young age because he was an undrafted player.

Well on nhl numbers they say that clarkson is RFA

after this season

Source: http://www.nhlnumbers.com/overview.php?team=NJD&season=0910

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so all of this lemaire oh noooos! defensive bore hysteria was answered pretty well last night. devils were moving aggressively to the zone and keeping the puck there creating alot of good opportunities. obviously the lines didn't have great chemistry yet since alot of great passes didn't find the net but that's going to improve. I liked the offensive output, and defense seemed to toy with the rags, at no point i thought they were chasing the puck but more like just letting rags make a mistake to take over.

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Pepperkorn    80

Thanks for the run down everyone. I was so tired I went to bed right after our back-to-school open house! My husband kept yelling to me finally during the shoot out he was all shocked -- "you're SLEEPING?"

One thought based on comments here: Maybe Zach was trying to provide leadership? Leadership by example? You've got to start pushing from somewhere. :noclue:

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DaneykoIsGod    120

Thanks for the run down everyone. I was so tired I went to bed right after our back-to-school open house! My husband kept yelling to me finally during the shoot out he was all shocked -- "you're SLEEPING?"

One thought based on comments here: Maybe Zach was trying to provide leadership? Leadership by example? You've got to start pushing from somewhere. :noclue:

Ooohh, if you weren't watching, then maybe I shouldn't mention that they showed Stevens in one of the luxury boxes during last night's game. :whistling:

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SargentD    31

Watched the game on TV last night. Micheletti was in the booth with Doc and Chico. He was a lot more easygoing compared to last preseason when he jumped on Chico every chance he got. This time around, he mostly sat back and let Doc and Chico do their thing but threw in some lighthearted jabs at Doc about his Pittsburgh Pirates. Whatever tiff Joe had with Chico might be over, although I guess we'll have to wait till Chico visits the Rangers broadcast booth before we can make a final judgment.

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mouse    43

Fraser played 2 games last night -- he looked great before the fight, terrible after it. He deserves another look. If he can establish some consistency, I want to see him on the team. He can do more than Leach and Mottau. I don't like pairing him with Salvador, and I think that contributed to his ineffectiveness late. Both of them are slow and physical. They need to play with guys who can skate.

Murphy got progressively better. I want to see him on the roster. I'd like to see him and Fraser split time (if Fraser improves a little).

I'm assuming Corrente not playing means he hasn't impressed. Too bad.

Pairings:

Martin White

Oduya Salvador

Fraser Greene

and

Martin Oduya

White Murphy

Salvador Greene

Mottau also on the roster. Sorry to Leach, but Fraser has more upside.

Parise and Shanny had some rough patches, but I'm not concerned. Shanny made a beautiful pass on the second goal. His legs may not be there yet, but he's smart, his stick work is still great, and he'll get in shape in the preseason.

We need a center. Cormier's whole line suffered because of him. Zharkov looked good with other guys, and we all know what Clarkie did. I'm not saying Cormier's a bust, but he needs another year of seasoning.

Zharkov looked better than Pikka. I have no problem giving him that spot.

Lines (when healthy)

ZZPop

Rolston Elias Bergfors

Zharkov/PL3 Zubbie Clarkson

Pando Pelley (sigh) Shanny

Sorry this was so long, I'm way too pumped for this season.

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Triumph    641

Never got to see the game but it seems Zharkov should make this team.

doesn't seem that way to me.

LW: Parise, Rolston, Shanahan, Pandolfo, PL

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Triumph    641

He MEANT won't make the team... care to amend your response to explain why he SHOULD be a shoe in then? :giggle:

that isn't what he meant.

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