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CONGRATS TO MARTY BRODEUR...NEW SHUTOUT KING #104!

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One of the best things about last night was the fact that he faced 35 shots, and some tough ones to boot. That at least keeps the "Marty only faces 15 shots or so a night" morons at bay. NHL on the Fly on both DirecTV and XM-Sirius did a terrific job with their tributes...especially XM-Sirius...lots of nice soundbytes. What made both tributes great was there were no mentions of systems and traps. A nice switch.

I've been posting this in a few other places, but here's some stats I pulled together:

From '94-'95 to '02-'03, Roy played 543 games, had 39 shutouts, and faced about 26 shots per game. Brodeur played 614 games, had 61 shutouts, and faced about 23 shots per game. Granted, Roy was older than Marty, and that may have factored into it... but Roy still had 9 shutouts in 01-02 when Brodeur only had 4, so both benefited from playing behind strong teams and defenses. If you compare relative age with shutous, from 30-37 Roy had 39 shutouts, Brodeur has 53 - with missing the lockout year, only playing 31 games last season, and playing in "the new NHL" in front of teams lacking Stevens, Niedermayer, etc.

Any way you look at it, it's a phenomenal accomplishment.

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I love the fact that we, as Devil fans/Hockey fans basically have watched history in the making.

Every game I go to I appreciate what we have in NJ.

IF Marty ever wins cup #4 without Stevens/Nieds/Dano he will officially be the greatest goalie of all time without any strings.

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I love the fact that we, as Devil fans/Hockey fans basically have watched history in the making.

Every game I go to I appreciate what we have in NJ.

IF Marty ever wins cup #4 without Stevens/Nieds/Dano he will officially be the greatest goalie of all time without any strings.

My kids closed their eyes the last minute or so. Not me. I think I enjoyed this more than 552.

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I think I enjoyed this more than 552.

...oh for sure. As great as 552 was, 104 is considerably more difficult.

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My kids closed their eyes the last minute or so. Not me. I think I enjoyed this more than 552.

Let's not get carried away! 552 is a much bigger record in the history of the sport. 104 is also big, but overall wins trumps shutouts. Also, I was at 552 and it was a HOME game, so to me, there is no comparison...

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What a player.

That is truly a fantastic record.

Its going to take one hell of a netminder to break that record.

Now bring the man a Cup and a Conne Smythe!!!

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What a player.

That is truly a fantastic record.

Its going to take one hell of a netminder to break that record.

Now bring the man a Cup and a Conne Smythe!!!

Cup/Conn Smythe/HART? all in 2010 for Marty? LET'S GO DEVILS!

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What a great career, we've all been very lucky and fortunate to have been able to watch Marty his entire career.

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We are a lucky bunch of fans.

Marty, simply the greatest ever. period.

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Congratulations Mr.Brodeur, it's been an Honor watching you play all these years. Hopefully the best is yet to come.

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Just amazing, and fitting it comes in what passes for a big game in December, and also fitting somehow that it comes after the Altanta game. Wonderful stuff.

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It's kind of funny and makes the story better that Brodeur let in 3 goals on 6 shots and was pulled in the game before he broke the shutout record.

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Congrats Marty... awesome achievement, just another supporting fact that he is the best goalie of all-time. :dance:

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Let's not get carried away! 552 is a much bigger record in the history of the sport. 104 is also big, but overall wins trumps shutouts. Also, I was at 552 and it was a HOME game, so to me, there is no comparison...

But I like getting carried away!

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Just awesome. 552 will always be the best to me (what an atmosphere that night!) but this was such an incredible performance. 35 saves, several of a difficult variety.

I hope everyone remembers moments like this when Marty is near the end.

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Which is easier to obtain, wins or shutouts?

Congratz MB30.

Obviously on a 1 to 1 basis a win is easier to get. When looking at what record is harder to break, it is a tough call. I think both will last forever to be honest. It would take an excellent goalie to come into the league very young, play on a good team, and not suffer any extended injuries. Even if a goalie played from 20-35 at 40 wins a year (pretty much impossible), that is 600 wins. Marty will finish well above this mark. I do not see how this would be broke. With the same age guidelines as above, it would take 7 shutouts per year or so to break the shutout mark. After further examining this, I think the shutout record might be easier to break. Theoretically your team could not have many wins a year, but 7 shutouts. It is not likely but still a possibility. For example a goalie may average 25-30 wins a year but 7 of them being shutouts. My final verdict is that the shutout record is slightly easier to break than the wins record. The wins records encompasses too many factors for someone to break it. (age breaking into NHL, be on a good team every year, and no injuries)

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It's kind of funny and makes the story better that Brodeur let in 3 goals on 6 shots and was pulled in the game before he broke the shutout record.

Marty almost always plays great after a bad game.

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ESPN website=NOTHING on Marty

ESPN NHL section=Staal breaking his face tonight...NOT A PEEP on one of the most difficult records in sports to break.

Translation=must be A LOT of Rangers fans who work at ESPN.

Just wanted to make one important edit, that probably will help you understand:

ESPN website=NOTHING worth your time.

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Let's not get carried away! 552 is a much bigger record in the history of the sport. 104 is also big, but overall wins trumps shutouts. Also, I was at 552 and it was a HOME game, so to me, there is no comparison...

+1.

I agree. #552 was very big and seeing it live at the Prudential Center was icing on the cake. #104 is big too and much harder to get but unfortunately it was on the road. I was hoping to see #104 on home ice.

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Let's not get carried away! 552 is a much bigger record in the history of the sport. 104 is also big, but overall wins trumps shutouts. Also, I was at 552 and it was a HOME game, so to me, there is no comparison...

Speaking of 552, Marty is now at 547 for non-shootout wins. Not many people are keeping track of that, but at least when Marty ups that 547 to 552, no one can claim shootout wins were the reason he broke Roy's record. If anyone ever DOES challenge Marty's final win tally (could be very well be 650 or more, and over 600 non-shootout wins), such a challenger could have as many as 100 shootout wins bloating his career total.

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Obviously on a 1 to 1 basis a win is easier to get. When looking at what record is harder to break, it is a tough call. I think both will last forever to be honest. It would take an excellent goalie to come into the league very young, play on a good team, and not suffer any extended injuries. Even if a goalie played from 20-35 at 40 wins a year (pretty much impossible), that is 600 wins. Marty will finish well above this mark. I do not see how this would be broke. With the same age guidelines as above, it would take 7 shutouts per year or so to break the shutout mark. After further examining this, I think the shutout record might be easier to break. Theoretically your team could not have many wins a year, but 7 shutouts. It is not likely but still a possibility. For example a goalie may average 25-30 wins a year but 7 of them being shutouts. My final verdict is that the shutout record is slightly easier to break than the wins record. The wins records encompasses too many factors for someone to break it. (age breaking into NHL, be on a good team every year, and no injuries)

If a goalie can average 7 SOs, he deservers 10 Mil + a year. Doesnt a goalie have to be on the ice the entire game to get a SO? Given that one can still have a bad night and get the win, I think the SO record is more impressive.

Regardless, I think they are both untouchable for a very long time, so no argument there.

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