mugsywwiii Posted July 26, 2010 Share Posted July 26, 2010 Who are they submitting it to? Each other? Or is there a third party that's holding this in escrow like some mortgage company? I think Puck Daddy is probably accurate. They're all saying stuff that makes us think that this resolves with all due haste, but in reality they can't decide on which donuts and coffee to have for the arbitor picking hearing. I'm with Tri on this one; about a month or so before this gets resolved. Worse if they have some kind of reality show to figure out who's the arbitor. "Mr. Namtteb, you are the weakest link, goodbye." They're submitting them to an arbitrator who will decide which arbitrator they should use. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Prucenterrules Posted July 26, 2010 Share Posted July 26, 2010 Well our season starts now! lol Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mmajeski06 Posted July 26, 2010 Share Posted July 26, 2010 I have a bad feeling about all of this. Looking at the possible punishments that TG listed (if we lose) it will be bad. Just imagining the sh-t eating grin on Bettman's face as he takes away draft picks, fines Lou and Kovy, and takes more from our cap, pisses me off. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jim777 Posted July 26, 2010 Share Posted July 26, 2010 I created a time-line/synopsis at the beginning of this thread can every one check it out and make sure it looks good? thanks http://www.njdevs.co...ndpost&p=898502 There's no mention of lawns being mowed anywhere? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Triumph Posted July 26, 2010 Share Posted July 26, 2010 the devils will not get fined for this, TG is just stirring stuff up like he's good at Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mugsywwiii Posted July 26, 2010 Share Posted July 26, 2010 if you find it for me http://sports.espn.go.com/nhl/news/story?id=5363951 Looks like Out: July 4 In: July 7 Out: July 8 In: July 11? http://sports.espn.go.com/los-angeles/nhl/news/story?id=5372277 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NJDevs4978 Posted July 26, 2010 Share Posted July 26, 2010 the devils will not get fined for this, TG is just stirring stuff up like he's good at I wouldn't put anything past this league right now...though I do agree it's unlikely any penalties get imposed, I'm guessing those are outlined in the CBA basically for either repeat offenders or if there happens to be a smoking gun that comes out in the hearing (which there almost surely won't be) like a taped conversation that Kovy says he's not playing till he's 44. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jim777 Posted July 26, 2010 Share Posted July 26, 2010 (edited) I believe the loss of picks and such would be the result of an investigation into already approved contacts, like the Devils rented him a mansion for $1 a month and didn't count it towards his salary or hired his wife for 1Mil per year as a secretary or something - that sort of thing. I don't think they can charge you draft picks and millions of dollars because you put forth a straightforward contract to the league for approval and they said no. The big fines are for actual circumvention - not planning on doing something and asking permission and being told no. Edited July 26, 2010 by jim777 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hi, I'm VALUE! Posted July 26, 2010 Share Posted July 26, 2010 They're submitting them to an arbitrator who will decide which arbitrator they should use. But...but how do we decide on the arbiter for the arbiter, and the arbiter for that decision, and the arbiter for the arbitor for the pizza order, and the arbi..... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
msweet Posted July 26, 2010 Share Posted July 26, 2010 http://sports.espn.g...tory?id=5363951 Looks like Out: July 4 In: July 7 Out: July 8 In: July 11? http://sports.espn.g...tory?id=5372277 thanks I will update as soon as we fix the editing on the thread ... there is a bug Good summation, although I think the order should be reversed, so if one were to read if from top to bottom, it would start with the rumor and end with the arbitration. Also, some quick links to where each milestone began would be excellent. That way, if you want to jump to where the Kovy signing was first announced, you could just get there without slogging through the thread. While I can't do it now, I'll offer to wade through the thread tonight and collect those links for you to add with your divine admin powers. Let's be fair, an epic thread deserves epic treatment. AOK...will add them thanks Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
msweet Posted July 26, 2010 Share Posted July 26, 2010 Regarding Kovalchuk and "systems arbitrator": Source just told me that NHL/NHLPA may agree on arbitrator who *isn't* systems arb. (1/2) — Greg Wyshynski (@wyshynski) July 26, 2010 Regarding Kovalchuk and "systems arbitrator": Source just told me that NHL/NHLPA may agree on arbitrator who *isn't* systems arb. Systems arbitrator=permanent job; NHL/NHLPA may opt for arbitrator who simply decides this case only. (2/2) http://twitter.com/SweetwoodNo1?utm_source=follow&utm_campaign=newfollow20100706&utm_medium=email&utm_content=profile Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Devils731 Posted July 26, 2010 Share Posted July 26, 2010 Regarding Kovalchuk and "systems arbitrator": Source just told me that NHL/NHLPA may agree on arbitrator who *isn't* systems arb. (1/2) — Greg Wyshynski (@wyshynski) July 26, 2010 Regarding Kovalchuk and "systems arbitrator": Source just told me that NHL/NHLPA may agree on arbitrator who *isn't* systems arb. Systems arbitrator=permanent job; NHL/NHLPA may opt for arbitrator who simply decides this case only. (2/2) http://twitter.com/SweetwoodNo1?utm_source=follow&utm_campaign=newfollow20100706&utm_medium=email&utm_content=profile That makes sense, they appear to need one so infrequently it's probably cheaper in the long run to just do a one off deal. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Amberite Posted July 26, 2010 Share Posted July 26, 2010 Regarding Kovalchuk and "systems arbitrator": Source just told me that NHL/NHLPA may agree on arbitrator who *isn't* systems arb. (1/2) — Greg Wyshynski (@wyshynski) July 26, 2010 Regarding Kovalchuk and "systems arbitrator": Source just told me that NHL/NHLPA may agree on arbitrator who *isn't* systems arb. Systems arbitrator=permanent job; NHL/NHLPA may opt for arbitrator who simply decides this case only. (2/2) Just got off the phone with Bettman. Let him know I was available. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Triumph Posted July 26, 2010 Share Posted July 26, 2010 That makes sense, they appear to need one so infrequently it's probably cheaper in the long run to just do a one off deal. doesn't really make sense to me. for one, the league hasn't needed one for 6 years. two, how does that exactly speed up the process? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cal914 Posted July 26, 2010 Share Posted July 26, 2010 in my opinion the NHL is just doing this to exploit the need for a maximum length on a contract when the CBA is up next year, but if Crosby signed a 35 yr deal it would be perfectly fine Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GoArmySports Posted July 26, 2010 Share Posted July 26, 2010 Just got off the phone with Bettman. Let him know I was available. Yeah my phone has been ringing off the hook, he won't stop calling me... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Devils731 Posted July 26, 2010 Share Posted July 26, 2010 doesn't really make sense to me. for one, the league hasn't needed one for 6 years. two, how does that exactly speed up the process? Who said anything about speed? I said it's cheaper to use a guy as a one off rather than pay a guy a retainer to do something you almost never use. The speed of this is almost always fine anyway, since it's almost never used, and we have no idea how much using a 1 off is going to affect the speed now. It looks like both sides are going to try to keep it quick. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Masked Fan Posted July 26, 2010 Share Posted July 26, 2010 This is thread? nice! Look at the Devils Roster. Kovy is on it. Now look at his contract. Back at the Roster. Kovy is gone. So is the contract. I'm on a horse. Excellent ...and the feelings so real, you can feel the feeling... I'm hooked on the feeling! Guys, I don't know if I'm freaking out about Kovalchuk's situation... and I don't know if somebody already commented about it but I think Kovalchuk has different colored eyes. I think I was staring at his pictures for too long... LOL I know that it doesn't matter, I think it is cool. Can somebody tell me if I am wrong? 'Bout time someone tackled the tough subjects on this thread!!! His left eye is darker then the right, he's a cyborg. Either it's what they had in stock in Tvar, or the eyes have two different jobs. Just got off the phone with Bettman. Let him know I was available. Slut. ewwww. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pepperkorn Posted July 26, 2010 Share Posted July 26, 2010 (edited) I want to see naked pictures of Scott Stevens... I read in some comments on one of GW's blogs that some guy didnt' expect everyone to have a tea party on Scott Stevens dick... I wish he hadn't written that. I havent' thought about it in such a long time. He's old now and stuff - but... I still want to see him naked... oh nevermind Edited July 26, 2010 by Pepperkorn Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ollie McKraut Posted July 26, 2010 Share Posted July 26, 2010 dear me Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Daniel Posted July 26, 2010 Share Posted July 26, 2010 That makes sense, they appear to need one so infrequently it's probably cheaper in the long run to just do a one off deal. If there is a retainer for a system arbitrator, I imagine it's something negligible from the league's point of view, something like $10k to 20k per year, so it's not a cost issue. The arbitrator for this, if it's a lawyer in NYC, will cost something like $700 an hour. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Neb00rs Posted July 26, 2010 Share Posted July 26, 2010 I have to say, if we lose, this can get very ugly. Bettman can cause all kinds of very serious damage should the NHL win, and seeing as how he absolutely loves the Devils ( ), I have no doubt he will use every one of the abilities given to him under the CBA. He can impose up to a $5M fine on the Devils, which counts against the cap, plus another $1M fine on Kovalchuk. As if that weren't enough, he can also take draft picks away. Eh, we already have a 5 million dollar fine that counts against the cap. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Amberite Posted July 26, 2010 Share Posted July 26, 2010 Eh, we already have a 5 million dollar fine that counts against the cap. Sucks that Frolov seems like he is going to the rags. Will be interesting to see what they do to clear the cap space. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Devs1965 Posted July 26, 2010 Share Posted July 26, 2010 Eh, we already have a 5 million dollar fine that counts against the cap. That 5mil you speak of =Rolston? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GoArmySports Posted July 26, 2010 Share Posted July 26, 2010 We should keep this thread open till Kovalchuk retires, maybe we could get 1 million replies! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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