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New Kovy Update ("As the Kovy Turns")

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Hmm that's strange because I'm pretty sure Parise put up 45/49 two years ago as a "team player". If Parise can do it, Kovalchuk can also.

And Mogilny had a big year in '00-01...43 goals, forget how many assists. Elias had a 96-point season that same year I think.

But since he doesn't want to be here, who cares?

Why are people so hung up on this? So we're his second choice, big whoop. The Yankees were CC Sabathia's sixth or seventh choice last offseason, how did that work out?

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wow are you serious? thanks. 99.9% of the board couldnt figure that out about this team so glad you were here to share

:troll1: Let's settle down...there's no need to turn on eachother.........yet....

I feel like this whole event could totally have been recorded and produced as a reality show, by the way. It has enough drama to satisfy even the most drama-obsessed MTV fans!

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Our resident re-re Ek just said that his "sources"(I wonder if these same sources are SD's...) have told him that Kovy and the Kings deal "not looking good" right now...

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http://michellekenneth.wordpress.com/2010/07/13/2026/

i agree with everything michelle says here, i'm still certain devils are going to sign kovie when he realizes there is no other money to be had.

I actually really enjoyed that article. IDK what her sources are or if she is credible but it was still a nice read.

I personally don't buy in to what she said and I think the King players would love to have him on their team.

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Given time and good coaching, everything would be different.

Perhaps.

I'm skeptical, though. Anyway, I don't think we're going to find out if he will flourish here.

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And Mogilny had a big year in '00-01...43 goals, forget how many assists. Elias had a 96-point season that same year I think.

oooooohhhh ooooooohhhh oooohhhh...it's MY TURN! Gionta...Gionta! :yay:

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There's two sides to this:

If you allow him to play his game the way the Thrashers/JL allowed he can get 40 goals, but this also means we are probably giving up 3-4 goals a game. This and Parise, Elias and Arnott #'s go down as they see the puck too infrequently while Kovy attempts to do everything himself.

The other side of this coin is he plays on the third line and just does his thing against weaker opponents and maybe some PP time on the second unit.

But since he doesn't want to be here, who cares?

You think you're voicing your displeasure with the use of a finesse player -- but you're not. You're voicing your distrust of the ineffable system. You're trying to force the Ineffable System into an effable stifling mode. I am the keeper of the Ineffable System. I am one of the few who truly understand it. Dare I say - I understand it's inner workings better than Scott Stevens and Lou himself? I dare because Scotty over played at times. and Lou over-thought on coaching for a time there - Lou has learned his lesson though. ANYHOW, That is why I'm so down on your opinion on this topic.

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Just 'cause I feel like throwing sh*t against the wall to see if it sticks... consider if the Devils decided to go balls-out on offense this year. Say they sign Kovalchuk. Theoretically, they could put together lines that look something like this:

Parise-Zajac-Langenbrunner

Kovalchuk-Arnott-Zubrus

Rolston-Elias-Clarkson

combo of Tedenby/Josefsen/Pelley/PL3/Zharkov/Palmieri

Not exactly the most physically intimidating lineup to be sure, nor would it be easy to manage the egos of the players to accept changes in expected ice time, but would make for a fun time in video games. B )

Again, not expecting this - or even encouraging it - so please refrain from tons of posts pointing out its flaws. Just throwing it out there as a "in Bizarro World" thought.

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:troll1: Let's settle down...there's no need to turn on eachother.........yet....

I feel like this whole event could totally have been recorded and produced as a reality show, by the way. It has enough drama to satisfy even the most drama-obsessed MTV fans!

Not enough fist pumping to satisfy MTV.

Also, I never had heard of a "fist pump" until people in OH told me that is what people from NJ do. I was like "O Rly?"

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Perhaps.

I'm skeptical, though. Anyway, I don't think we're going to find out if he will flourish here.

As people have been noting, Oates could be able to figure out how to get Kovy to shine on the powerplay. Apparently he did the same thing with Stamkos in Tampa.

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If Kovy signs with the Devs and scores over 90 points next season, I'll eat a piece of French Silk pie. If he scores under that then I'll eat French silk pie. Either way everyone wins.

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This whole Kovy thing is really getting old. I just about do not care anymore. Obviously all he cares about is the perfect contract for HIM. He doesnt care about playing for the devils or kings. its all about Kovy.

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I actually really enjoyed that article. IDK what her sources are or if she is credible but it was still a nice read.

I personally don't buy in to what she said and I think the King players would love to have him on their team.

she's always right, doesn't make sh!t up. if she says they did something in LA, it must be true, let's see if Kovie hears about it.

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This whole Kovy thing is really getting old. I just about do not care anymore. Obviously all he cares about is the perfect contract for HIM. He doesnt care about playing for the devils or kings. its all about Kovy.

With all due respect, If I had a nickel for every time someone said they "don't care anymore" and then continued to post in the thread...

edit: Then again, there's no one here right now... 26 users????????????????

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If this is true, almost makes it sound like it didnt go well in LA for Kovy and he is coming back east.

STOP AND THINK

I want to clear up some of this stuff I’m hearing from media…

It’s from my understanding that Kovy, not the Kings, walked away from the table each time.

Kings are so desperate to sign Kovy, they invited him to LA to meet with management, some future teammates, and had the wives meet up with his wife to take her out shopping. They were the ones wooing Kovy, not the other way around.

Why would the Kings arrange for the royal treatment if Kovy was the one pursuing them? [Think for a second, people.]

He went to LA for the first time on Sunday to hear what they had to say (not three times). It’s easier to persuade someone to sign if you can talk face to face with them and try to sell the idea to them. Quite another when you have to work through an agent and not the player.

The Kovalchuk camp needs another team interested in him to gain leverage to get the contract that they really want from the team that Kovalchuk really wants to sign with.

Based on what I heard…I don’t think Kovalchuk liked Hollywood all that much. Why else would the Kings be so tight-lipped today?

Kovy’s camp will take what happened in LA and take it to the table with the Devils.

As for the KHL…if they were ever really in the running, Kovy would have signed by now because the KHL pre-season starts sooner rather than later. In other words, his summer would be over in a few short weeks.

With all due respect, If I had a nickel for every time someone said they "don't care anymore" and then continued to post in the thread...

edit: Then again, there's no one here right now... 26 users????????????????

How can anyone not come back to this thread? lol

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FWIW, The latest Internet news on Kovalchuk...

So I have to add something with Ilya....All I have heard this morning is more of the same sentiment that the Kings and Ilya are no closer to a deal now, with some really seeing the two as further apart.

"I seriously can't see them getting it done now," one key source said. A source who thought this would get done.

Of course, there appear to be only two options for Ilya...so NJ is again the leader in my opinion, but the Kings are playing this as hard as they can.

Essentially, the Kings and Devils know the Cap has seriously limited Ilya's options, and are playing it that way...neither team is saying, "screw it, we HAVE to have this guy." Meanwhile, Kovalchuk has yet to say, "screw it, I wish it was year 1 or 2, post lockout, but it isn't....I want to live here and this is enough money to make my family happy."

Sooner or later, one side has to give.

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FWIW, The latest Єklund (2.3% accurate) news on Kovalchuk...

So I have to add something with Ilya....All I have heard this morning is more of the same sentiment that the Kings and Ilya are no closer to a deal now, with some really seeing the two as further apart.

"I seriously can't see them getting it done now," one key source said. A source who thought this would get done.

Of course, there appear to be only two options for Ilya...so NJ is again the leader in my opinion, but the Kings are playing this as hard as they can.

Essentially, the Kings and Devils know the Cap has seriously limited Ilya's options, and are playing it that way...neither team is saying, "screw it, we HAVE to have this guy." Meanwhile, Kovalchuk has yet to say, "screw it, I wish it was year 1 or 2, post lockout, but it isn't....I want to live here and this is enough money to make my family happy."

Sooner or later, one side has to give.

Fixed

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FWIW, The latest Internet news on Kovalchuk...

So I have to add something with Ilya....All I have heard this morning is more of the same sentiment that the Kings and Ilya are no closer to a deal now, with some really seeing the two as further apart.

"I seriously can't see them getting it done now," one key source said. A source who thought this would get done.

Of course, there appear to be only two options for Ilya...so NJ is again the leader in my opinion, but the Kings are playing this as hard as they can.

Essentially, the Kings and Devils know the Cap has seriously limited Ilya's options, and are playing it that way...neither team is saying, "screw it, we HAVE to have this guy." Meanwhile, Kovalchuk has yet to say, "screw it, I wish it was year 1 or 2, post lockout, but it isn't....I want to live here and this is enough money to make my family happy."

Sooner or later, one side has to give.

Where's this from? You need to credit where you're taking material from.

Also, I think you should change your name from HOLLYWOOD to HACKENSACK. Y'know, for good New Jersey luck. :lol:

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With all due respect, If I had a nickel for every time someone said they "don't care anymore" and then continued to post in the thread...

edit: Then again, there's no one here right now... 26 users????????????????

I still don't think he is worth it fo being a one way player, unless he can change but I think IMO he's ego is to big for that.

But this soap opera is priceless and this thread is awesome, so either way it's a win.

If we do sign him just hope we don't bite off more than we can chew!

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If this is true, almost makes it sound like it didnt go well in LA for Kovy and he is coming back east.

Almost makes it sound? She was pretty direct.

How can anyone not come back to this thread? lol

Lol...It's like a drug...it really is...and not pot either...more like Cocaine: Once you get a hit of some Kovy news you get really wild and start posting really fast and then you get depressed when you run out of news. The you get withdrawel and start talking about seeing ninjas on the thread and discussing the possibility of mixing Kool-Aid with eggs.

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the article was a great read and truer words were never spoken about LA. It is almost worse then a tv show because we can't vote kovy off the island or out of the house. and so we sit and wait...again

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http://michellekenneth.wordpress.com/2010/07/13/2026/

i agree with everything michelle says here, i'm still certain devils are going to sign kovie when he realizes there is no other money to be had.

From what I've heard in random press reports/blogs/etc., the issue isn't whether Kovy wants to be in LA, but whether he's willing to take some kind of discount to go there.

The figures that LA supposedly offered were ridiculously low (12 years $60 million by one account() even for those who think he's a team killer, selfish, overrated, etc. (You might not like him, but I think he should be getting more money than Wade Redden).

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