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New Kovy Update ("As the Kovy Turns")

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I have all the faith in the world that Lou will take this thing to court if he has to. He broke no rules. The CBA and the salary cap is broken. That is all.

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wow bettman is really a malicious P.O.S. Not only does he try to go against a very well established president in this league of allowing these things, but he waits until after our press conference that was streamed on NHL network and NHL.com so that we look like even more of a joke.

I wonder if Lou's comments about these contracts not having a place in the league had anything to do with them veto'ing them. Or if Kovie's comments about him HOPING to be in good enough condition to be playing once he is 44 has anything to do with it.

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i mean the same thing. hossa is 42 when his contract ends. so is pronger, i believe.

It all depends what angle Lou plans to attack the situation on and what grounds that it circumvents the NHL's salary cap. The contract will probably be 101 over 15 years if it were to change.

Plus the average shape of athletes continues to get better year after year. It isn't out of the question that a player 44 years of age couldn't play hockey 17 years from now.

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it's not the same thing. kovalchuk's deal goes longer than anyone else's.

So freaking what...Hossa and Pronger are 41 and 42, Kovy's 44, big whoop. Chelios is still playing at 48 and Gordie Howe played into his 50's. I'm not saying it's likely Kovy will be playing then but come on, you can't arbitrarily create a precedent where one didn't exist before.

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I'm also forgetting about Luongo's contract, which expires when he's 43. There's no way the NHL will win a challenge based on the precedent they have set.

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Zetterberg's contract is the most similar case for comparison, I'd think. He was 28 and signed a 12-year deal with a precipitous drop in the end, though down to only $1mil/per.

If changes have to be made, and 17 years is kept as the duration, I wonder if NHL would approve $7mil each of the first two seasons, change $11.5 mil to $11mil per season, then adjust the figures towards the end with the remaining balance of money (too lazy to calculate that now).

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O.K Lou get you lawyer ready and get your homework done cuz their is some court work that is going to be done. :rant:

Even at this point I cant really fear anything,Kovy looked really sure and determined to be a lifer and Lou will get this contract done by any means necessary.I think he sick of anti-Devils rules.

They could had just changed the rules if they feel its so bad but noooo lets wait for the Devils to sign K-17 and reject the contract.fvck them,Lou is going to fvck you Bettman.

Lets go Lou :koolaid: oh and where is that petition to fire Bettman ??? Imaa sign it 10 times.

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Great job, and approprite!

As soon as I heard the news I realized this clip was perfect for everyone who has been on this thread

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Anyone think the court hearings will be open to the public!?!?!

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Exactly what rule are we breaking?

Stealing the spotlight from Ovechkin/Crosby

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Exactly what rule are we breaking?

The rule barring superstar players from playing in the boring New Jersey Devils trapping system. It's an obscure rule made in the late 90s.

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Before everyone jumps to conclusions, has anyone checked all the fine print in the CBA to make sure there isn't a stipulation that this contract failed to address?

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Before everyone jumps to conclusions, has anyone checked all the fine print in the CBA to make sure there isn't a stipulation that this contract failed to address?

i haven't checked it, but it doesn't violate anything i know of.

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I would guess the league would win if this went to court because the league is given the power to be the arbiter on whether contracts are acceptable or not, they don't really need a reason other than feeling the contract isn't in the spirit of the salary cap.

Saying that, I'm guessing this'll just be some pretty easy fix that both sides negotiate about and this gets fixed up in a day or two.

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If this rejection stands, the Islanders should ask the NHL to void the DiPietro contract. :D

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Before everyone jumps to conclusions, has anyone checked all the fine print in the CBA to make sure there isn't a stipulation that this contract failed to address?

Lou knows the CBA inside and out.. No way he would have done this knowing he was breaking a rule, AND no way he did this without planning a course of action should it get vetoed

:koolaid:

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Exactly what rule are we breaking?

CBA 26.3 deals with circumventing the provisions of the CBA.

26.3 Circumventions.

(a) No Club or Club Actor, directly or indirectly, may: (i) enter into any agreements, promises, undertakings, representations, commitments, inducements, assurances of intent, or understandings of any kind, whether express, implied, oral or written, including without limitation, any SPC, Qualifying Offer, Offer Sheet or other transaction, or (ii) take or fail to take any action whatsoever, if either (i) or (ii) is intended to or has the effect of defeating or Circumventing the provisions of this Agreement or the intention of the parties as reflected by the provisions of this Agreement, including without limitation, provisions with respect to the financial and other reporting obligations of the Clubs and the League, Team Payroll Range, Player Compensation Cost Redistribution System, the Entry Level System and/or Free Agency.

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I would guess the league would win if this went to court because the league is given the power to be the arbiter on whether contracts are acceptable or not, they don't really need a reason other than feeling the contract isn't in the spirit of the salary cap.

Saying that, I'm guessing this'll just be some pretty easy fix that both sides negotiate about and this gets fixed up in a day or two.

Is that clause actually in the CBA like the MLB's best interests of baseball clause or just thought about? They can't just say. If there's precedent, we win

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Before everyone jumps to conclusions, has anyone checked all the fine print in the CBA to make sure there isn't a stipulation that this contract failed to address?

dchesnokov

So, CBA 26.3 talks about "circumventing" the CBA. But is the "circumvention" itself written out?

who knows?

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Exactly what rule are we breaking?

Dunno. But ironically, Bettman just invalidated the entire CBA by rejecting this contract.

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Wow...I mean right after the press conference? You know Lou was caught off guard by this

Someone's going to pay and isn't going to be Lou or Kovy. God this league is just run by morons, isn't it?

If this rejection stands, the Islanders should ask the NHL to void the DiPietro contract. :D

:rofl:

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