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joel-and-the-bots-for-blog_normal.jpgwyshynski Sportsnet reports Devils "won't appeal" NHL ruling, but what does that mean? Won't re-file? Won't pester NHLPA to protest? No context.

This is getting interesting people.

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joel-and-the-bots-for-blog_normal.jpgwyshynski Sportsnet reports Devils "won't appeal" NHL ruling, but what does that mean? Won't re-file? Won't pester NHLPA to protest? No context.

This is getting interesting people.

If that's true, then I'm shocked.

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If it's true, then what does it mean?

That they are saying the hell with it and he's a free agent again?

That they have a new contract ready?

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I think it's pretty arrogant on your part to continue to post as if you're absolved from explaining yourself after the display you carried out.

You have some explaining to do before you carry on any further around here. Time to grow up, Ray.

Yeah!! Why don't you boycott the board until he does, Ken? :cheers:

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Appealing means fighting and arbitration with other parties involved - restructuring the deal and resubmitting that original deal makes a boatload more sense.

Don't let the semantics freak anyone out here.

Edited by jim777

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If it's true, then what does it mean?

That they are saying the hell with it and he's a free agent again?

That they have a new contract ready?

I highly doubt they are saying to hell with it. It would mean that they are drafting a new contract, which I really hope that they don't, because it makes Bettman look like the winner. We should go to arbitration and fight this thing to the end.

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Appealing means fighting and arbitration with other parties involved - restructuring the deal and resubmitting that original deal makes a boatload more sense.

Don't let the semantics freak anyone out here.

Also, it's up to the NHLPA to appeal. The Devils cannot.

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There is a new CBA coming shortly, so there will be plenty of time for Lou to make Bettman his prisoin b!tch.

We should just do a quick little reastructure to raise the cap hit a bit and cut a year or three, and pick our battles with the league. With Kovy on the line now is not the best time to pick a fight, IMHO.

Edited by jim777

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Appealing means fighting and arbitration with other parties involved - restructuring the deal and resubmitting that original deal makes a boatload more sense.

Don't let the semantics freak anyone out here.

Restructuring the deal and resubmitting that original deal makes a lot of sense. A lot easier and less work to do. I agree Jim.

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the devils really don't have the recourse to appeal the filing. everything i see in the CBA is about the NHLPA.

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Those this mean we could lose Kovy, or is it like a little thing, like take off two years or something like that.

What I mean is, is it a big deal?

Kovy is a Devil untl all of this gets settled thru legal procedures and if all fails at the end and Kovy decides to negotiate with another team or perhaps the KHL again then theres siigns of worries.But Kovalchuk said it himself he wants to be a Devil.So no worries.....yet

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GIMME some of that popcorn!!!

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I BETTER LIKE how this drama ends!!!!

Assman makes me sick!! Like Lou sed, precedent has been set. I think an Arbitrator wins this one for the Devs and Ilya!!! pray.gif

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Interesting stuff from TG:

The NHL Players’ Association also has yet to respond or say if it will file a grievance on Kovalchuk’s behalf. The union, which is still in the process of hiring a new excecutive director, has five days to file a grievance.

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The Devils do not have an avenue in the CBA for challenging the contract rejection. It is possible that would they challenge it in a legal court, though. It would not be the first time they took such a measure (see 1988 Jim Schoenfeld-Don Koharski incident).

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Kovalchuk’s age and the number of low-salary years at the end have not been matched in previous contracts like this. The 17 seasons also would make it the longest contract in league history.

There are plenty of examples, however, of NHL players who played well into their 40s. Chris Chelios played in the league at 48 this past season.

Center Igor Larionov played for the Devils at age 43 in 2003-04 before retiring. Mark Messier was also 43 in his final season for the Rangers – also 2003-04.

Edited by DaneykoIsGod

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I imagine Kovy was offered a few contract scenarios. 17yrs/102mil was what Kovy liked and then a couple more alternatives were what he could live with.

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Guys, kovy will sign here. It's just a question of "re-doing" the contract correctly.

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Ovy will be in his 40's when his contract is done right?he signed a 13 year 113 million contract with the Washington Caps

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I actually could've understood this, if it had been voided right away (it WAS a clever way of circumventing the cap)...but to let the deal get announced, then allow it to go to a press conference...just reeks to me of Buttman & Co. reading one too many articles praising or knocking Lou for getting around the cap and then deciding "Oh wait, we've been had, NOW we'll put an end to this." Lou probably didn't help his cause by admitting that deals like Kovy's shouldn't exist, but I put it on Buttman & Co. to nip this thing in the bud on their own terms...not have a bunch of writers basically telling them how to do their jobs.

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Guys, kovy will sign here. It's just a question of "re-doing" the contract correctly.

Exactly, "THIS IS TEAM!"

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FWIW - Kypreos tweeted last night that Bettman warned Lou on Monday that the deal would quite possibly be voided.

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FWIW - Kypreos tweeted last night that Bettman warned Lou on Monday that the deal would quite possibly be voided.

If that's the case, I really hope Lou shared that information with Grossman. Hiding something like that could definitely lead to the deal falling apart, especially since it would appear that the press conference was rushed to get Kovalchuk to make the statements that he did.

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from what i am understanding that the league doesnt believe that Kovy will play until he is 44? The NHLPA should bring up that fact that Luongo's deal takes him until hes is 42. Not many goalies last until there late 30's what makes Luongo so special. After all Luongos deal got approved. Also Messier played until he was 43 i believe. So Kovy playing until he is 44 cant be discriminated against because it has been done before

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from what i am understanding that the league doesnt believe that Kovy will play until he is 44? The NHLPA should bring up that fact that Luongo's deal takes him until hes is 42. Not many goalies last until there late 30's what makes Luongo so special. After all Luongos deal got approved. Also Messier played until he was 43 i believe. So Kovy playing until he is 44 cant be discriminated against because it has been done before

I believe Luongo's deal takes him until he's 43, not 42.

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Ovy will be in his 40's when his contract is done right?he signed a 13 year 113 million contract with the Washington Caps

Ok that's what I thought.

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