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New Kovy Update ("As the Kovy Turns")

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Haha I got a 24 hour ban on Єklund (2.3% accurate)'s site for explaining the CBA to him and why it's patently impossible that Kovalchuk is a UFA and is on the verge of being signed by the NYR.

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FWIW - Kypreos tweeted last night that Bettman warned Lou on Monday that the deal would quite possibly be voided.

If Lou did have this tip, THAT would explain his mentioning the Validity of the contract during the press conference, to tell EVERYONE it is a "legal" deal before Buttman yanked it. cool.gif

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Ovy will be in his 40's when his contract is done right?he signed a 13 year 113 million contract with the Washington Caps

But to be fair, I think he only gets paid two different salaries, like 7.5 and 9 mil.

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I believe Luongo's deal takes him until he's 43, not 42.

I believe you are in fact right

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Yup Єklund (2.3% accurate) just blocked me from Twitter.

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Looks like the man combined the Kovy threads here too.

Well done, I was getting sick of looking in both and I refused to post in the other. smilydev.gif

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Haha I got a 24 hour ban on Єklund (2.3% accurate)'s site for explaining the CBA to him and why it's patently impossible that Kovalchuk is a UFA and is on the verge of being signed by the NYR.

:hail: X 10000

Hey whats youre name on Hockey Buzz I need to go check that out!!!

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Yes -- Єklund (2.3% accurate) is banning all Devils fans!

OK... I confess... at first I felt sorry for myself being a Devil fan .. that old WHY ME???? Why always ME???? feeling.

but now...I think it's massively cool :giggle::cheers:

We're the winning bad boys! This kind of sh!te is great for solidarity and kicking ass.

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from what i am understanding that the league doesnt believe that Kovy will play until he is 44? The NHLPA should bring up that fact that Luongo's deal takes him until hes is 42. Not many goalies last until there late 30's what makes Luongo so special. After all Luongos deal got approved. Also Messier played until he was 43 i believe. So Kovy playing until he is 44 cant be discriminated against because it has been done before

Gordie Howe played until he was 52. Kovalchuk's contract is obviously unbelievable because no one thinks he's going to want to play for $500k when he has tens of millions in the bank. I don't believe it either, nor do I believe it with the other long contracts that have been accepted. Some athletes will play as long as they can, or as long as they think they can win, for love of the game. It's impossible to know when Kovalchuk is 27 whether he'll be one of those players.

I hope this ends soon.

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:hail: X 10000

Hey whats youre name on Hockey Buzz I need to go check that out!!!

It's Amberite on there as well. Admittedly, I might have been a little harsh on him, but with all the nonsense he spouts every day, plus the world's worst journalism that he displayed today, he deserved every bit of it. This is what I posted:

"Єklund (2.3% accurate) you are an idiot and this post shows what a hack you are. Kovalchuk is NOT a UFA right now, so everything you just posted is complete drivel. Kovalchuk does not become a UFA unless:

1) The NHLPA does not file a grievance within 5 days of the rejection, and the Devils do not amend the contract.

2) The case goes to arbitration, the arbitrator rules in favor of the NHL, and the Devils do not amend the contract.

Since neither of those two conditions have happened yet, Kovalchuk is still signed and under contract. Douchebag, learn to get your facts straight."

Edited by Amberite

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Appealing means fighting and arbitration with other parties involved - restructuring the deal and resubmitting that original deal makes a boatload more sense.

Don't let the semantics freak anyone out here.

Semantics are my enemy

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It's Amberite on there as well. Admittedly, I might have been a little harsh on him, but with all the nonsense he spouts every day, plus the world's worst journalism that he displayed today, he deserved every bit of it. This is what I posted:

"Єklund (2.3% accurate) you are an idiot and this post shows what a hack you are. Kovalchuk is NOT a UFA right now, so everything you just posted is complete drivel. Kovalchuk does not become a UFA unless:

1) The NHLPA does not file a grievance within 5 days of the rejection, and the Devils do not amend the contract.

2) The case goes to arbitration, the arbitrator rules in favor of the NHL, and the Devils do not amend the contract.

Since neither of those two conditions have happened yet, Kovalchuk is still signed and under contract. Douchebag, learn to get your facts straight."

HAHAHAHAHHA ROFL! :hail::hail::hail::hail::hail::hail:

he deserves that!

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Haha I got a 24 hour ban on Єklund (2.3% accurate)'s site for explaining the CBA to him and why it's patently impossible that Kovalchuk is a UFA and is on the verge of being signed by the NYR.

:cheers:

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The main argument for the Devils (if of course the denial is disputed) should NOT be that other players have lasted until their mid-40s. That happens rarely, with few and far between examples, and the Devils cannot convince anybody that they intend to play Kovalchuk at 44.

What SHOULD be the absolute main argument is the fact that other players have signed contracts with similar career-ending payouts to bring down the cap hit. This hypocrisy cannot stand.

However, the argument shouldn't even be tossed around that Kovalchuk could be playing at 44, because he won't be.

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can Kovalchuk comment about what is going on currently with his contract or does Grossman have to be his mouthpiece throughout this process

Edited by grcenter47

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Gordie Howe played until he was 52. Kovalchuk's contract is obviously unbelievable because no one thinks he's going to want to play for $500k when he has tens of millions in the bank. I don't believe it either, nor do I believe it with the other long contracts that have been accepted. Some athletes will play as long as they can, or as long as they think they can win, for love of the game. It's impossible to know when Kovalchuk is 27 whether he'll be one of those players.

I hope this ends soon.

then why would hossa play for 750,000 when he is 42 or pronger playing for 525,000 when he is also 42. Its the fact that both of these deals were approved there for setting a precedent that has to be followed until a new cba can be negotiated

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speculation is not a legal argument.

age is not the factor here. it is the dollars being spread over the term.

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guys, and i'm not kidding here, what if we rally at championship plaza friday?

its an idea being tossed about on the other thread, but if we do it, i'm suggesting posters, and a lot of red, white and black, obviously no riot.

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ckraks: @wyshynski NHL fines Lamoriello $5,000,000, payable over 17 yrs. 13 payments of $384,584 & 4 payments at the backend of $102.

:lol:

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speculation is not a legal argument.

age is not the factor here. it is the dollars being spread over the term.

speculation is not an legal arguement. But prior precedents that have been set is example:Luongo,pronger,hossa contracts all being approved same with zetteberg contract which is the same structure

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guys, and i'm not kidding here, what if we rally at championship plaza friday?

its an idea being tossed about on the other thread, but if we do it, i'm suggesting posters, and a lot of red, white and black, obviously no riot.

We wouldn't want any bricks being vandalized or anything.

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http://www.hockeybuzz.com/blog/Peter-Tessier/What-if-Lou-Never-Expected-the-Deal-to-be-Approved/119/29432

"With this deal being shot down for the obvious reason of cap circumvention does it drop the price for Kovalchuk? Does it send a message, a 'warning shot across the bow' to all other GMs and agents not to try this type of deal anymore? I say yes to both questions.

I think Lou did Gary a favour and deliberately went way, waaay over the edge on how this contracts works knowing full well that there was now way it would be approved. There are some rumblings that Lou even told reporters that he didn't think it would be approved.

In one fell swoop Lou may have put an end to these deals before there could be anymore. Furthermore he may have set a precedent and sent a message (via Gary) to any other 'superstar' player or greedy owner to keep your demands in check. "

Very interesting indeed, I think this guy nailed it right on the head. I think the NHL gave Lou yesterday to do the press conference so that Kovy would come out with his speech about winning and wanting to play in NJ being the best decision he could have made. Perhaps Lou brought in Marty, Parise, and the rest of the core guys (granted, Elias was already here) to hang out with Kovy for a few days while this whole thing blows over to ensure he stays a Devil and who knows, he might even be willing to drop his price a bit.

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http://www.hockeybuzz.com/blog/Peter-Tessier/What-if-Lou-Never-Expected-the-Deal-to-be-Approved/119/29432

Very interesting indeed, I think this guy nailed it right on the head. I think the NHL gave Lou yesterday to do the press conference so that Kovy would come out with his speech about winning and wanting to play in NJ being the best decision he could have made. Perhaps Lou brought in Marty, Parise, and the rest of the core guys (granted, Elias was already here) to hang out with Kovy for a few days while this whole thing blows over to ensure he stays a Devil and who knows, he might even be willing to drop his price a bit.

Possibly 95 mil for 15

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