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New Kovy Update ("As the Kovy Turns")

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http://www.hockeybuzz.com/blog/Peter-Tessier/What-if-Lou-Never-Expected-the-Deal-to-be-Approved/119/29432

Very interesting indeed, I think this guy nailed it right on the head. I think the NHL gave Lou yesterday to do the press conference so that Kovy would come out with his speech about winning and wanting to play in NJ being the best decision he could have made. Perhaps Lou brought in Marty, Parise, and the rest of the core guys (granted, Elias was already here) to hang out with Kovy for a few days while this whole thing blows over to ensure he stays a Devil and who knows, he might even be willing to drop his price a bit.

Lou would seriously be playing with fire if this was planned to get in the press conference before an official rejection when he knew it was coming ahead of time. If you were Kovalchuk or Grossman would you have any respect or ever want to deal with an organization that acted in bad faith? If there's even a bit of truth to this, don't be shocked if Kovalchuk walks away and if Grossman never does business with Lou again. Not to mention the fact that every free agent you ever want to sign (ahem Parise) would be very releuctant to signsign with the Devils or play for them a day longer than necessary.

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could people PLEASE not post hockeybuzz links with the idea that there is anything relevant or sensible being said in there. while lou should have had some idea that the contract might be rejected, i doubt very much that he went ahead with the whole thing on the idea that it would definitely get rejected.

and yes daniel, no free agent will ever sign with new jersey ever.

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The issue really in all of this, as it compares to the hossa and luongo contracts, is essentially the devils signed hossa to a 7 year contract worth 7 million at the end. This has never been done before, and never will. the lunogo contracts and hossa contracts include 2-3 years of smaller payments, which is not uncommon for nhl players to sign.

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BIG TRADE RUMOR>

Another rumor that just broke is the Rangers are considering trading Marian Gaborik to the LA Kings and signing Kovalchuk. Very interesting rumor indeed. We all remember Gaborik had wanted to play in LA going into last summer's UFA period prior to signing in NY.

http://www.hockeybuzz.com/blog/Єklund (2.3% accurate)/KingsRangers-Getting-Back-In-On-Kovalchuk-Gaborik-Trade-to-LA-Leafs/1/29435

Єklund (2.3% accurate)

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holy crap! i go away for an hour and this thing jumps from 292 pages to 315!!!?

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holy crap! i go away for an hour and this thing jumps from 292 pages to 315!!!?

The "contract reject" thread was merged into this thread... that's why.

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The "contract reject" thread was merged into this thread... that's why.

What's the most views ever in a thread?

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I agree that Lou wouldn't hold Kovalchuk as some kind of example with no intention of even retaining him. You'd have to have no intention of retaining him to do that to a guy.

If he had anything like that in mind he'd have told Grossman and Ilya - he'd have warned them and probably have had a contingency contract all drafted also with Grossman and Kovalchuk's input. You dont run a guy like that up a flag pole for kicks....

(but then again... maybe Kevin Costner IS Yuri the imbedded KGB agent...)

Edited by Pepperkorn

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How about we go back to that 7 year 60 million dollar deal?

Go from 6 mil to 8.8 mil? I can't go for that! No can do!

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:doh1: Now Єklund (2.3% accurate) is going to go to town making up all the dumb sh!t he can just to annoy the likes of Amberite and njdevil26!

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I agree that Lou wouldn't hold Kovalchuk as some kind of example with no intention of even retaining him. You'd have to have no intention of retaining him to do that to a guy.

If he had anything like that in mind he'd have told Grossman and Ilya - he'd have warned them and probably have had a contingency contract all drafted also with Grossman and Kovalchuk's input. You dont run a guy like that up a flag pole for kicks....

(but then again... maybe Kevin Costner IS Yuri the imbedded KBG agent...)

Yeah. I wanted to sign this guy but it was really a conspiracy to with the commisioner with kovy as the patsy. This has gone from a hockey topic to a David mMamet movie.

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guys, and i'm not kidding here, what if we rally at championship plaza friday?

its an idea being tossed about on the other thread, but if we do it, i'm suggesting posters, and a lot of red, white and black, obviously no riot.

Why there, and why 2 days from now? We should all be at the NHL HQ rite now demanding Betteman show himself!!!!!!!!!!!!!

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NHLPA STATEMENT ON KOVALCHUK CONTRACT MATTER TORONTO (July 21, 2010) – The National Hockey League Players’ Association (NHLPA) released the following statement today regarding the rejection of Ilya Kovalchuk’s contract with the New Jersey Devils by the National Hockey League (NHL):

"The NHLPA is currently analyzing the basis upon which the NHL rejected the contract between the New Jersey Devils and Ilya Kovalchuk. We are evaluating the options available to us under the terms established in the CBA. The NHLPA will have no further comment at this time." – Jonathan Weatherdon, NHLPA Spokesperson

http://www.nhlpa.com...95-C5B9630D05D9

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This is all garbage!

Backlash will be a horror show!

How many tickets were sold since Monday? How many Kovy jerseys bought or ordered?

This would horrible for the Devils organization and horrible for the NHL if Kovy isn't a Devil in the end. PERIOD!

Backlash will be a horror show!

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so does this mean we add another week to the days of the kovalchuk fan hostage

NHL declares hypocritical, political war with Kovalchuk rejection

interesting quote....

We can assume that's B.S., but from a legal standpoint there would need to have been something tangible that stated the contract was structured with the intent of Kovalchuk retiring. Frankly, the Devils and Kovalchuk agreeing to have a No-Trade Clause to the end of the deal is more compelling evidence that he "intends" to play out the term than the NHL simply saying "we don't believe you."

Edited by grcenter47

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yesterday's fanfare at the Prudential Center might as well have had a "Mission: Accomplished" banner behind the dais.

ok - this was funny :giggle:

Hmm... I think I'm just too worn out by this all to think it was some kind of elaborate charade. I don't understand what the point would be unless there was full disclosure with player and management. It's upsetting to me to think there wasn't. Because clearly this wasn't "just business" to Kovalchuk. Why would Lou sh!t all over the first free agent to really want to come here -- or what were we not privy to?

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Lou is normally tight lipped but he made a mistake with the rolling of the eyes comment. he was essentially saying "this shouldnt be allowed but since theres a nice loophole im going to do it anyways and rub it in your face"

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In other news Bettman said that the contract to the Devs is null and void but if Kovy wants to sign the same deal with the Penguins then that's okay.

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In other news Bettman said that the contract to the Devs is null and void but if Kovy wants to sign the same deal with the Penguins then that's okay.

He would also raise the cap just for the penguins so they could fit kovalchuk martin crosby and malkin under it

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so by wanting to eliminate "retirement contracts", the league wants to outlaw franchise players. So they want to make it illegal to lock up a player for his career and force us to have to give up a Kovalchuk in the future if someone tries to lure him away with more money/accommodations, when his contract is up for renewal? If a team places that much value on someone that they want to lock him up and nullify any chance he may be gone to free agency in the future, why is that such a big deal? I guess now the hypocritical NHL is against dynasties like the Islanders of the early 80s or Canadiens, or teams like that. It's the "everyone plays fair, no one has an advantage" rule. :rolleyes:

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