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dchesnokov: KHL President Medvedev told Pavel Lysenkov of Sovetsky Sport that SKA is ready to offer a 17 year contract to Ilya Kovalchuk. Details soon.

:blahblah: That league is such a joke. It's like a cartoon show.

I loved his advice to Kovy last week: "Listen to a woman, but do the exact opposite."

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it better be a personal service contract, because that league has as much chance of being around 17 years from now, as I do being the next President

There will surely be a Russian professional hockey league 17 years from now.

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There will surely be a Russian professional hockey league 17 years from now.

'surely' is a strong word when dealing with anything 17 years from now, but his point is that it probably won't be the KHL, though - kovalchuk's contract would no longer be valid if the league re-formed.

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'surely' is a strong word when dealing with anything 17 years from now, but his point is that it probably won't be the KHL, though - kovalchuk's contract would no longer be valid if the league re-formed.

Yea but if they sign him to 17 years they have him pretty much locked to play in Russia for the rest of his career. If he plays just 10 years there, he is stuck there for good. The 17 years is a marketing ploy to say "We can one up the Devils"

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Yea but if they sign him to 17 years they have him pretty much locked to play in Russia for the rest of his career. If he plays just 10 years there, he is stuck there for good. The 17 years is a marketing ploy to say "We can one up the Devils"

why? the league could cease to exist 2 years from now, or next april. the only security you get is that you're playing for Medvedev's team... which of course would be circumventing the league rules to bring a player to their team. does this sound stable, or like a garage league where the commish happens to own a team and bends the rules for himself, because his brother is the "President" with Putin's hand planted firmly up his ass?

keeping in mind that a team that existed going back to the RSL years has already fallen apart.

it's a marketing ploy, alright, a desperate one. you guys get concerned about the most mundane things.

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why? the league could cease to exist 2 years from now, or next april. the only security you get is that you're playing for Medvedev's team... which of course would be circumventing the league rules to bring a player to their team. does this sound stable, or like a garage league where the commish happens to own a team and bends the rules for himself, because his brother is the "President" with Putin's hand planted firmly up his ass?

keeping in mind that a team that existed going back to the RSL years has already fallen apart.

it's a marketing ploy, alright, a desperate one. you guys get concerned about the most mundane things.

I'm not concerned. If you've followedd my posts, you'd know I said he wasn't going to Russia from July 2nd on.

FIrst off, if he signs a 17 year deal to play in Russia then he has made a commitment to play hockey in Russia for the rest of his career and is likely to do so.

Secondly, if Kovy signs over there for that long there's a very good chance the league does last. Don't get me wrong - if the KHL doesn't sign a few more big players then they're gonna struggle to stay afloat.

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I'm not concerned. If you've followedd my posts, you'd know I said he wasn't going to Russia from July 2nd on.

FIrst off, if he signs a 17 year deal to play in Russia then he has made a commitment to play hockey in Russia for the rest of his career and is likely to do so.

Secondly, if Kovy signs over there for that long there's a very good chance the league does last. Don't get me wrong - if the KHL doesn't sign a few more big players then they're gonna struggle to stay afloat.

Kovalchuk isn't going to make the league last. the problem w/ the league is that it's not run anything like a business. it's just a plaything for a few rich owners that drag everyone else along for the ride. Dynamo failing was a very bad sign, it's not like they're some team in a former satellite state that has a $3M payroll.

if it doesn't start to look like a business at some point, it can't be anything more than a garage league. the rich owners will use it as a plaything, everyone else will wither and die because there's no money in this.

and Medvedev is becoming more and more the owner of St. Petersburg and less and less the boss of the league. it's like he's pulling a reverse Bud Selig. his head isn't in the right place if he really wants to make it work long-term.

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the problem w/ the league is that it's not run anything like a business. it's just a plaything for a few rich owners that drag everyone else along for the ride. Dynamo failing was a very bad sign, it's not like they're some team in a former satellite state that has a $3M payroll.

if it doesn't start to look like a business at some point, it can't be anything more than a garage league. the rich owners will use it as a plaything, everyone else will wither and die because there's no money in this.

are you referring to the KHL or the MLB or the NBA?

Listen, maybe the KHL won't last I don't argue that. My only argument is that it could only help to sign Kovalchuk to a long term deal. Do you think they're sitting around going "We'll we're going to collapse soon so let's offer Kovy only a two year deal. Offering him the 17 year deal shows the league's fans that they are serious about staying aroung long-term and seriously competing with the NHL (even if neither will really happen). It was the right move on their part. A silly marketing ploy but the right move.

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why? the league could cease to exist 2 years from now, or next april. the only security you get is that you're playing for Medvedev's team... which of course would be circumventing the league rules to bring a player to their team. does this sound stable, or like a garage league where the commish happens to own a team and bends the rules for himself, because his brother is the "President" with Putin's hand planted firmly up his ass?

keeping in mind that a team that existed going back to the RSL years has already fallen apart.

it's a marketing ploy, alright, a desperate one. you guys get concerned about the most mundane things.

On HF I made the comparison of some independent minor league team making an absurd offer to a player for the publicity. This is basically like the Harlem Globetrotters offering Lebron James a contract.

Now of course they'll sign him to it if Kovalchuk wants to go, but Kovalchuk has to know anything beyond the first year isn't exactly going to be guaranteed like it would be the NHL.

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And let's face it, Kovy knows if he goes over to the KHL, that's it for publicity. Once you go over to the KHL that's pretty much it as far as US and Canadian media is concerned.

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Yea but if they sign him to 17 years they have him pretty much locked to play in Russia for the rest of his career. If he plays just 10 years there, he is stuck there for good. The 17 years is a marketing ploy to say "We can one up the Devils"

I think Medvedev should worry about the problems of the Russian people and not on the Kovalchuk contract situation

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Maybe he feels that if Kovy can revitalize Newark, NJ he could do the same for Russia?

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I think Medvedev should worry about the problems of the Russian people and not on the Kovalchuk contract situation

Different Medvedev...

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Is anyone else amused by the fact that if you replace the first M with a V, his name would be Vedvedev?

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:hah:

Is anyone else amused by the fact that if you replace the first M with a V, his name would be Vedvedev?

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There will surely be a Russian professional hockey league 17 years from now.

There will be, and please don't call me surely...

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And let's face it, Kovy knows if he goes over to the KHL, that's it for publicity. Once you go over to the KHL that's pretty much it as far as US and Canadian media is concerned.

Hence why we don't hear much about jagr these days...

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Different Medvedev...

hahaha +1 for you... i'm an idiot :doh1:

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There will be, and please don't call me surely...

I don't mean to be a tool but if you're going to use that joke/quote from Airplane, at least do it correctly.

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Even though if Kovy goes anywhere (which he is not) I personally would rather see him go to the KHL then another NHL team.

But he has stated more times that he wants to win in the NHL, and it is true if he goes to Russia he will disappear in the media.

Also he also he would be going against his mothers wishes. I just don't see it happening.

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There will be, and please don't call me surely...

:lol:

I don't mean to be a tool but if you're going to use that joke/quote from Airplane, at least do it correctly.

Oh c'mon, really? You're going to be the quote police now? Lighten up man.

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TG reports tonight...

It appears the NHL and NHLPA will probably agree upon a system arbitrator to rule on the Ilya Kovalchuk grievance by the end of this week. A hearing would probably would wait until early next week, though, with the ruling coming by the end of next week.

http://blogs.northjersey.com/blogs/fireice/fraser_happy_to_get_deal_settled_looking_forward_to_upcoming_season/

Sooner the better, so Kovy and the NHLPA can win the case and Kovy can settle in here in New Jersey and with his team mates.

Edited by SatansDevils

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Sooner the better, so Kovy and the NHLPA can win the case and Kovy can settle in here in New Jersey and with his team mates.

:clap:

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:lol:

Oh c'mon, really? You're going to be the quote police now? Lighten up man.

I said I don't want to be a tool but hey what can I say, he did use it incorrectly. Since you brought it back up...I'll explain: Just having the word "surely" in a sentence doesn't make the joke make sense. "Surely" has to be at the beginning of the sentence (as in: Surely, there will be a Russian professional hockey league 17 years from now) This was how it worked in the movie and it was funny because "Surely" is at the beginning of the sentence where you would actually say a name. Where I had "surely" in the sentence makes it so it doesn't make sense with the punchline. -With how I said it, I wasn't calling anyone "Shirley". (I said: "There will surely be a Russian professional hockey league 17 years from now.")

ON a smaller note: Then, the poster's response was "Don't call me surely" The joke is that the response is, "Don't call me Shirley".

I love airplane. It's a LOL movie. He butchered the joke.

Edited by ben00rs

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I said I don't want to be a tool but hey what can I say, he did use it incorrectly. Since you brought it back up...I'll explain: Just having the word "surely" in a sentence doesn't make the joke make sense. "Surely" has to be at the beginning of the sentence (as in: Surely, there will be a Russian professional hockey league 17 years from now) This was how it worked in the movie and it was funny because "Surely" is at the beginning of the sentence where you would actually say a name. Where I had "surely" in the sentence makes it so it doesn't make sense with the punchline. -With how I said it, I wasn't calling anyone "Shirley". (I said: "There will surely be a Russian professional hockey league 17 years from now.")

ON a smaller note: Then, the poster's response was "Don't call me surely" The joke is that the response is, "Don't call me Shirley".

I love airplane. It's a LOL movie. He butchered the joke.

Airplane! is one of my all time favorites. One of those movies I watched with a bunch of friends, and I'd say 75% of the people were dieing of laughter and the rest were just kinda lost. But still a classic comedy.

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