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New Kovy Update ("As the Kovy Turns")

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Like I said before, he said Kovy was looking to make a decision today (well, I guess technically yesterday now).

He said absolutely nothing about making that decision public.

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the point that Parise's leadership and smarts and intensity, defensive responsibility make all the difference is a moot point. Ethan Moreau had all of those in spades along with that awsomely empty "intangibles" word. All that got him was a swift kick in the a$$ and a trip on the waiver wire.

Don't misunderstand me I am in NO WAY comparing Parise to EM but those extra character things are great, but they aren't the measurable points that get you $$$ . Kovalchuk had multiple leverage points this year in contract negotiations chief among them was the KHL offering up stupid money and close behind the fact that his numbers really speak for themselves ie. most goals since 2001 second only to Ovie in goals since 2005 most PowerPlay goals since 2001 AND 2005 (important because Ovie was accounted for in that statement) Kovie also has a Richard Trophy along with multiple 40+ and 50+ goal seasons to his record showing his seasons were not a fluke.

Parise, as great a player as he is and as great as I think he is, doesn't have the credentials to be demanding anything near what Kovie will get even once he gets to UFA (unless he signs a long term deal as an RFA and can get some more to his hockey resume by the time he gets his first shot at UFA) even if he was UFA next year I would say he wouldn't get more than 8 million a season. If I had to guess I would say around 7.8 million on a UFA market for Parise and I think that is the upper end of what would be possible. as an RFA he will either be paid a very reasonable (relatively speaking) amount on a 4-6 year deal that takes him to a good spot in his career to be UFA OR he signs long term on his RFA year and gets in the low 7 range average cap hit for 6-8 years still putting him in decent position for another payday but getting the most out of him in a Devils uniform for a good price.

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Don't misunderstand me I am in NO WAY comparing Parise to EM but those extra character things are great, but they aren't the measurable points that get you $$$ . Kovalchuk had multiple leverage points this year in contract negotiations chief among them was the KHL offering up stupid money and close behind the fact that his numbers really speak for themselves ie. most goals since 2001 second only to Ovie in goals since 2005 most PowerPlay goals since 2001 AND 2005 (important because Ovie was accounted for in that statement) Kovie also has a Richard Trophy along with multiple 40+ and 50+ goal seasons to his record showing his seasons were not a fluke.

Good post, good numbers.

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This thread is now up to 43 pages and I'm ashamed to admit, I think I've read every one of them. I think I need to re-evaluate my life.

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People are talking trade, but isn't it possible that the Devils will have no choice but to waive Salvador and/or Langenbrunner? Is there a trade market for Salvador in particular? Is there a trade market for Zubrus?

Edited by Jerrydevil

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For the right price (if you can call it that) there would be buyers on Langenbrunner and Salvador I'm sure, since they're legitimate NHLers and their contracts aren't atrocious. [Rolston I'd worry about.] Of course I see what you mean, the question is, is that price affordable in terms of this franchise, realistically. But such is the cap.

If we waived the players, would that relieve us of their cap burden? What happens in a situation where we aren't under the cap at the finish line?

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This thread is now up to 43 pages and I'm ashamed to admit, I think I've read every one of them. I think I need to re-evaluate my life.

:lol:

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For the right price (if you can call it that) there would be buyers on Langenbrunner and Salvador I'm sure, since they're legitimate NHLers and their contracts aren't atrocious. [Rolston I'd worry about.] Of course I see what you mean, the question is, is that price affordable in terms of this franchise, realistically. But such is the cap.

If we waived the players, would that relieve us of their cap burden? What happens in a situation where we aren't under the cap at the finish line?

If a player on a 1-way contract is waived and picked up by another team, his salary comes off the books. If he clears waivers, the salary will still count against the cap during the off-season, but once the season starts, it comes off the cap.

Edited by David Puddy

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For Kovalfvcks sake. I got sick of this last night (ie around 7pm EST), went to bed and expected this to be done when I woke up. Uh, no. Les Grossman ruined my morning. Now I'm gonna go out, have lunch at the golf course, practice a bit, shoot 67 or lower at the Tuesday Tournament, win 50 bucks and when I come home, Kovalfvck will have signed.

If not, I'm gonna...be...annoyed. Very, very annoyed.

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Pretty credible source from HF has the deal for 7 years @ 8.8 per. Holy fizzle is that steep if true. I would never have thought we would go anywhere near a figure like that.

I would expect the high 8s or even 9M. I think if we get him in the 7's it's a steal.

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Clearly he is waiting for Potvin to announce it.

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The only conclusion I can draw from all of this: looks like Kovalchuk and his camp viewed the Devils as the fallback option throughout this process, and I'm guessing that he's almost praying that LA has a change of heart and steps up their offer "before it's too late." This whole situation reminds me of K-Rod's signing with the Mets...he got a nice offer from his previous team during the season, spurned it because he thought there was going to be a big market for his services come free agency, only to find out that that market simply didn't exist. IF Kovy re-signs (and who the hell has the slightest idea what's going on anymore...certainly not any njdevs.com posters who claim to have inside sources), I hope he at least doesn't insult anyone's intelligence at a press conference by stating that he's just thrilled to remain with the Devils.

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I really hope this ends soon!

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RusHockeyFans Sport-Express is reporting that negotiations between SKA and Kovalchuk are "in the closing stage". 4 years, $40m (including bonuses)

from twitter this am

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RusHockeyFans Sport-Express is reporting that negotiations between SKA and Kovalchuk are "in the closing stage". 4 years, $40m (including bonuses)

from twitter this am

How many times have Russian websites reported Kovy is going to sign there? Plus I think Kovy could get more then 10 million a year in Russia.

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How many times have Russian websites reported Kovy is going to sign there? Plus I think Kovy could get more then 10 million a year in Russia.

As many that american websites reported kovy is going to sign in NJ or L.A

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That douchebag Š„klund (2.3% accurate) (2.3% accurate) has a bunch of crap pouring out of his arse about this situation:

I still think Kovalchuk signs in NJ...

However....Wild speculation and rumors abound in the last hour...

*I am hearing the Rangers are in this.

*The Devils are trying to make a major trade with St. Louis.

*The Kings could get back in.

*Another source says the Leafs came in...

*Even rumors of the Thrashers...

Why do I even bother reading his crap.

I just want him to decide so we can move on either way.

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at any rate, TG just twittered these...

When asked if team has enough cap room: "Don't worry about my cap."

2 minutes ago via web

TGfireandice

That was concerning Kovlachuk. He would not comment when asked if he expected anything to happen with Kovalchuk today.

3 minutes ago via web

TGfireandice

Just got off the phone with Lamoriello: "Everything is status quo. There is nothing to comment on."

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LOL, gotta love Lou.

HERE WE GO KOVY! SIGN TODAY! EARLY SO I CAN GET SOME WORK DONE!

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Me and njd3b1ink made a "rap" i guess you could call it about how Lou should sign Kovy.

hopefully Lou signs him tomorrow so we can stop all this Kovy madness. :koolaid:

Awesome!

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The only conclusion I can draw from all of this: looks like Kovalchuk and his camp viewed the Devils as the fallback option throughout this process, and I'm guessing that he's almost praying that LA has a change of heart and steps up their offer "before it's too late." This whole situation reminds me of K-Rod's signing with the Mets...he got a nice offer from his previous team during the season, spurned it because he thought there was going to be a big market for his services come free agency, only to find out that that market simply didn't exist. IF Kovy re-signs (and who the hell has the slightest idea what's going on anymore...certainly not any njdevs.com posters who claim to have inside sources), I hope he at least doesn't insult anyone's intelligence at a press conference by stating that he's just thrilled to remain with the Devils.

yeah, he should just say that he's unhappy with new jersey and wishes he could wear ranger blue. gimme a break. part of the reason why the devils are a fallback is that they can't give him the money that atlanta offered him.

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By the way, I'm still thinking the KHL is an option. 4 years KHL would lead to the Olympics and there might not be a restriction on playing in them, whereas in the NHL there might be by then.

Just speculating.

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