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New Kovy Update ("As the Kovy Turns")

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well, that's all fair, but $15M is $15M. that's a lot of money to leave on the table. and all we have to go on here are hearsay and conjecture, which while according to lionel hutz are 'kinds' of evidence, they're not really substantial. i agree that with everyone's blinded bettman hate, kovalchuk's seeming greed is being lost.

how about a super-front loaded deal along the lines of this?

11.5 11.5 11.5 11.5 11 7 7 7 3 3 3 2 2

it pays him 46 million in the first 4 seasons, and 84 in the first 10.

We all know that someone has to give. Whether its Kovalchuk or the Devils remains to be seen. I really like your proposal though. I feel that it is somewhat realistic that Kovy would play the last 5 years of the deal. Even though I doubt it, it's believable to say, the NHL. A cap hit of 7 mil is fair for both parties I feel. I'm not familiar with Hossa's deal, but is it the same structure?

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well, that's all fair, but $15M is $15M. that's a lot of money to leave on the table. and all we have to go on here are hearsay and conjecture, which while according to lionel hutz are 'kinds' of evidence, they're not really substantial. i agree that with everyone's blinded bettman hate, kovalchuk's seeming greed is being lost.

how about a super-front loaded deal along the lines of this?

11.5 11.5 11.5 11.5 11 7 7 7 3 3 3 2 2

it pays him 46 million in the first 4 seasons, and 84 in the first 10.

i don't think the devils want this - they want the next two years relatively low and then the middle years (especially the lockout years) at the high number.

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ps want to see me pull a rabbit out of gary bettman's ass?

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i don't think the devils want this - they want the next two years relatively low and then the middle years (especially the lockout years) at the high number.

yeah, that's another bizarre feature. I call it the "Rolston tax".

Tri, I think the front years kill that contract dead. $7M cap with $11.5M years = bad. I think that was in the ruling talking about the separation between cap salary and actual salary.

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Yep, seems like the NHLPA wasn't very happy with the whole Kovy thing. I'm sure they were considering Fehr previously, but this whole fiasco probably cemented him in the #1 position.

yeah but this tweet has me a little nervous, not gonna lie:

dchesnokov

I am tracking developments after that call KHL Pres Medvedev received from Kovy's agent. After I confirm a few things, I'll post an update

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well, that's all fair, but $15M is $15M. that's a lot of money to leave on the table. and all we have to go on here are hearsay and conjecture, which while according to lionel hutz are 'kinds' of evidence, they're not really substantial. i agree that with everyone's blinded bettman hate, kovalchuk's seeming greed is being lost.

how about a super-front loaded deal along the lines of this?

11.5 11.5 11.5 11.5 11 7 7 7 3 3 3 2 2

it pays him 46 million in the first 4 seasons, and 84 in the first 10.

Kovy ain't taking a deal that's paying him only 7 million in only the sixth year of his contract.

Anyways, we're debating nothing because there's no delay here between Kovy and the Devs. Lou drafted up a 15 year deal that would give a minimum cap hit and it got rejected. Now he'll either submit that contract and go to arbitration (prob not gonna happen) or he is gonna draft up a 13 or 14 year deal with a minimum cap hit. Kovy and his agent are going to do what they've done all along: "Ok the contract pays what we want, let's sign it and hope it's the last time we have to do so."

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dude give me a break, the contract pays him pretty much the maximum in the first 5 seasons. under that logic, why would he take a deal that pays him 6 million dollars in year one?

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dude give me a break, the contract pays him pretty much the maximum in the first 5 seasons. under that logic, why would he take a deal that pays him 6 million dollars in year one?

In years 9 and 10 he was going to get paid 8.5 and 6.5 respectfully, that's 2 years of being well overpaid for the first two years of being underpaid. Sure Kovy might take that for the 11.5 for 4 years but compare that to the 5 years at 11.5 in the original contract.

Don't get me wrong I like your 13/91 - look at my posts - I now think we are going to see that, I just don't think it will be structured that way.

Prediction: 11 11 11 11 11 9 8 8 4 3 3 2 2 1 14/95 = 6.78 cap hit

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well, that rumor machine is really cranking full steam. so, this is the plan? "Let me have $85M in 10 years or I'm leaving?" :lol: yeah, that'll work.

Grossman is going to hang himself

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well, that rumor machine is really cranking full steam. so, this is the plan? "Let me have $85M in 10 years or I'm leaving?" :lol: yeah, that'll work.

Grossman is going to hang himself

with a diamond studded noose. still don't think kovalchuk is really interested in the KHL, their season starts in a week.

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with a diamond studded noose. still don't think kovalchuk is really interested in the KHL, their season starts in a week.

Might be a chess move to scare the league.

EDIT: not the hanging, the phone call to Medvedev

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with a diamond studded noose. still don't think kovalchuk is really interested in the KHL, their season starts in a week.

seems Kovalchuk may have instigated the phone call to Medvedev himself. this is a serious, serious FWIW. :lol:

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I want to blame the league. I do blame the league for happening to draw the line on front loading when the Devils made a deal. That said, Kovy's not worth the trouble he's causing. He has the right to go home in the offseason, but disappearing when your contract goes to hell is problematic to say the least. As has been said, the Devils and the NHL have worked to make this deal work, and it doesn't seem like Kovy's willing to. He's not as good as Zach, and he's not worth the trouble unless he's willing to help out with the deal.

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I think Twitter reports says a new idea passed nhl approval, gotta wait details.

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I think Twitter reports says a new idea passed nhl approval, gotta wait details.

this is ridiculous. :lol:

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never even heard of him. I would guess less credibility than what I'm throwing out there, and I can't add FWIW enough times to it.

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I think Twitter reports says a new idea passed nhl approval, gotta wait details.

a new idea passed nhl approval?

the 'oh sh!t, donald fehr will kick our asses if we don't agree to something quickly' approval?

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nhlhockeysays from Frederick, how reliable is he?

I'm guessing because we have to ask... Not very

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a new idea passed nhl approval?

the 'oh sh!t, donald fehr will kick our asses if we don't agree to something quickly' approval?

I wonder who would win in a fight Donald Fehr or Mamachuk?

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Devils should add 3 years to Kovalchuk deal and return to NHL office with @Jay_Grossman and Donald Fehr.

lol

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nhlhockeysays from Frederick, how reliable is he?

He's the same guy that said we won the hearing.

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Amazingly there are some pretty high profile people that follow that guy, including NHLDevils (aka the officials Devils twitter).

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Amazingly there are some pretty high profile people that follow that guy, including NHLDevils (aka the officials Devils twitter).

i think if you mention NHLDevils enough, they follow you, or if you put NHL in your name or something

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This guy Fehr might become legendary if a deal is submitted and approved ASAP now but I still think Mamachuk is the new Chuk Norris.

LOL...Chuk Norris - wouldn't that be the name for Kovy on the Devils? A defensively sound Kovy? Norris...get it? I'll shut up now.

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