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Langenbrunner to Dallas. 3rd round conditional pick coming back

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5 out of the devils last 6 1st round picks dating back to 2002 appear to be NHL players. That's Parise, Zajac, Bergfors, Tedenby, and Josefson.

Two of the Devils' best prospects, Adam Henrique and Alex Urbom, were 3rd round picks.

Says the same person who has said losing a 1st rd pick is not a big deal

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Thanks for the years Langs. He was always good to the fans too.

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On the one hand, I'm not happy with the return, but on the other hand, he has 7 non-EN goals in his last 56 games and makes nearly $3 million a year - how much could we expect back? It all depended on whether teams were going to buy into the gritty mcgrit thing.

In bold (and add in that he's 35 and had to waive his NTC): why would anyone think the Devils were going to get a lot for him? I don't see how anyone could have expected much more.

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I can't believe people are bitching about the return for Langs, What did anyone honestly expect? He's not a top 6 forward and he has one year left on his contract. If we were the ones trading for him do you think we'd give up more than a third? Well we potentially got a 2nd round pick, so shaddup everyone.

Have you seen the signings we've made lately? We probably would be paying him 5 mil for 5 years like a certain number 12.

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I can't believe people are bitching about the return for Langs, What did anyone honestly expect? He's not a top 6 forward and he has one year left on his contract. If we were the ones trading for him do you think we'd give up more than a third? Well we potentially got a 2nd round pick, so shaddup everyone.

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We essentially traded for, at best, a 25 perecent chance of getting an NHL caliber playing sometime down the road. Maybe Lou got the message from VBK to dump as much salary as possible in an attempt to boost the bottom-line, which will be pretty pathetic this year when all is said and done. What a let down.

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From TG:

The Devils get a second-round pick if the Stars win a first-round playoff series or if they re-sign Langenbrunner, a potential UFA, before July 1. If the Stars don’t win a playoff round and re-sign Langenbrunner after July 1, the Devils still get the Stars 2011 third-round pick and will also get the Stars’ 2012 second-round pick and send their 2012 third-rounder to Dallas

How the hell did they come up with that deal it must have got confusing!!

So stars Win in the Playoffs/Resign pre july 1st Langs:

Devils Recieve: Stars 2nd Round pick 2011

Stars dont win playoff round or resign Langs before 1st July:

Devils Get:Dallas 3rd 2011 AND 2nd 2012

Dallas gets: Devils 3rd 2012

Change of Plan Dallas to fail.

Or have i got this all wrong??

Edited by Chimaira_Devil_#9

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I can't believe people are bitching about the return for Langs, What did anyone honestly expect? He's not a top 6 forward and he has one year left on his contract. If we were the ones trading for him do you think we'd give up more than a third? Well we potentially got a 2nd round pick, so shaddup everyone.

If you can't get anything of significance for a player that isn't a salary albatross for the next year or two (e.g. Roston, Zubrus) than there's no point in making a trade right now, unless the goal is to save money.

EDIT: If the conditions are met whereby we get a second rounder, then the deal is palatable.

Edited by Daniel

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Correct, but you were still paying him real American dollars. This was simply a cost cutting move, as much as it was moving an aging vet that feuded with the coach, earlier the better as far as Vanderbeek was concerned. JVB has spent WAYYYYYYYYYYYYY more than what was budgeted for this team for 2010-11. Why do you think Lemaire is back coaching? Free is free.

That's true, I was just making the point that this trade has nothing to do with re-signing Parise.

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From TG:

How the hell did they come up with that deal it must have got confusing!!

So stars Win in the Playoffs/Resign pre july 1st Langs:

Devils Recieve: Stars 2nd Round pick

Stars dont win playoff round or resign Langs before 1st July:

Devils Get:Dallas 3rd AND 2nd

Dallas gets: Devils 3rd

Change of Plan Dallas to fail.

Or have i got this all wrong??

i think thats what it means, so i'm all for this trade now. one way or another they're getting a 2nd, the question is are we going to end up essentially swapping 3rds

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I'll give you Zajac and Parise, Tri. The rest "remains to be seen." Convenient how you left out Lou and Conte's incredible post Elias run.

Henrique, Urbom -- great. Wake me up when they're actually on the team doing something.

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From TG:

How the hell did they come up with that deal it must have got confusing!!

So stars Win in the Playoffs/Resign pre july 1st Langs:

Devils Recieve: Stars 2nd Round pick 2011

Stars dont win playoff round or resign Langs before 1st July:

Devils Get:Dallas 3rd 2011 AND 2nd 2012

Dallas gets: Devils 3rd 2012

Change of Plan Dallas to fail.

Or have i got this all wrong??

Thats not bad afterall

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Thats not bad afterall

seriously, the deal just became Langenbrunner and a 3rd for a 2nd and a 3rd.

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I think this is ok value for Langenbrunner. Given our cap situation and how bad Langenbrunner sucks, this is an excellent trade. More then likely we get a 3rd round pick this year and then swap a 3rd rounder for a 2nd rounder in a strong draft.

Dallas will no doubt have a wink wink agreement to sign Langenbrunner minutes after July 1st to gain a 3rd rounder. That is, if they were to sign prior to going FA.

Edited by Jas0nMacIsaac

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i'm sure dallas will sign him to make him captain, so we are good with a second round pick for a guy who was going to leave anyway.

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I think this is ok value for Langenbrunner. Given our cap situation and how bad Langenbrunner sucks, this is an excellent trade. More then likely we get a 3rd round pick this year and then swap a 3rd rounder for a 2nd rounder in a strong draft.

i also think dallas kinda sucks, so that 2012 2nd could be pretty high if that is how it goes down.

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From TG:

How the hell did they come up with that deal it must have got confusing!!

So stars Win in the Playoffs/Resign pre july 1st Langs:

Devils Recieve: Stars 2nd Round pick 2011

Stars dont win playoff round or resign Langs before 1st July:

Devils Get:Dallas 3rd 2011 AND 2nd 2012

Dallas gets: Devils 3rd 2012

Change of Plan Dallas to fail.

Or have i got this all wrong??

Dallas wins a round in playoffs or resigns him before july 1: Devils get 2nd

Dallas doesn't win playoffs and resigns him after July 1: Devils get 2nd and 3rd and give up 3rd

Dallas doesn't win playoffs and doesn't resign him ever: Devils get 3rd

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I think this is ok value for Langenbrunner. Given our cap situation and how bad Langenbrunner sucks, this is an excellent trade. More then likely we get a 3rd round pick this year and then swap a 3rd rounder for a 2nd rounder in a strong draft.

Yeah i fell the same.

Plus if the team picks up next year, makes the playoffs and recieves a late 1st rounder, and we do have two second round picks next year, it makes the situation slightly more flexible for giving up our first rounder.

Although with the strong draft it might not be a great year to chuck that 1st rounder.

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i also think dallas kinda sucks, so that 2012 2nd could be pretty high if that is how it goes down.

We're talking about the Stars not the Cowboys. The same Stars who have Morrow, Richards, Benn, Ribeiro, Erickson, Ott, Niskanen, Fistric, Daley, Grossman, Lehtonen.

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I'll give you Zajac and Parise, Tri. The rest "remains to be seen." Convenient how you left out Lou and Conte's incredible post Elias run.

Henrique, Urbom -- great. Wake me up when they're actually on the team doing something.

Gomez, Gionta, Rupp, White, Souray, Van Ryan, Sykora, Mason, McCauley, Mitchell, Parker, Clemmensen, Commodore, Engelland, Martin, Hale, Voros, Janssen, Parise, Zajac, Fayne/Fraser, Zharkov, Corrente, Palmieri, Tedenby, Josefson, Cormier,

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In fairness to the dude, Єklund (2.3% accurate) had it right last night and was the first to give the details lol hate sticking up for that douche, but its true if you look at his Twitter.

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Lamoriello said "there could be more" trades coming, but, "until something is done, it isn't done."

i love lou so much, a new age philosopher.

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I wonder, if Dallas makes it past first round and signs him before july 1st....does that mean we get two seconds instead of a 3rd this year and a 2nd next year?

Glad that he's out of the Eastern Conference.

Why, are you scared of the Langenbrunner slap shot? He would no doubt give us a PP a game for tripping...maybe even an extra 2 for unsportsmanlike.

Edited by Jas0nMacIsaac

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