Hi, I'm VALUE! Posted December 30, 2013 Share Posted December 30, 2013 (edited) Official NFL.com Coach Tracker - summary: Fired: Jim Schwartz, Detroit Greg Schiano + Mark Dominik (GM), Tampa Bay Mike Shanahan + friends, Washington Leslie Frazer, Minnesota Rob Chudzinski, Cleveland And, of course, Gary Kubiak of Houston from Dec 6 Limbo: Jason Garrett & Monte Kiffin (DC), Dallas Joe Philbin, Mike Sherman (OC), and Jeff Ireland (GM), Miami Mike Munchak & Lowell Doggains (OC), Tennessee Dennis Allen & Reggie McKenzie (GM), Oakland Safe: Tom Coughlin, Giants (will decide his own fate, sounds like he wants to come back to NY) Rex Ryan, Jets (Back for 2014 for sure, looking for longer extension) I will try to update the head post for at least the coaching vacancies, but that has proved to be a fruitless effort in the past. We'll see if it lasts through the off-season Edited December 30, 2013 by Hi, I'm VALUE! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Muevelos Posted December 31, 2013 Share Posted December 31, 2013 (edited) Its seems that Allen is staying as of right now. It'd be stupid to fire either him or their GM. I saw a rumor of Schieno back to college football and the DC of Seattle seems very probable for Houston or Cleveland( I forget who just interviewed him) Edited December 31, 2013 by CarterforPresident Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MadDog2020 Posted December 31, 2013 Share Posted December 31, 2013 Schiano will probably wind up at Penn State once O'Brien is announced as Texans coach. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NJDevs4978 Posted December 31, 2013 Share Posted December 31, 2013 (edited) And if he ever did go to Penn State, get your popcorn ready - Rutgers' first game as a Big Ten member next year is against...Penn State. Edited December 31, 2013 by NJDevs4978 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CRASHER Posted December 31, 2013 Share Posted December 31, 2013 And if he ever did go to Penn State, get your popcorn ready - Rutgers' first game as a Big Ten member next year is against...Penn State. and my head will overload and explode from having that much hatred for both teams and even I won't know how to handle it Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MantaRay Posted December 31, 2013 Share Posted December 31, 2013 (edited) You might as well put Garrett in as safe. Jones pretty much said so the other day. I think Munchaik gets a pass this year too. Tennessee is on the right track, even if they have Fitzpatrick as the better QB. Edited December 31, 2013 by MantaRay Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hi, I'm VALUE! Posted January 1, 2014 Author Share Posted January 1, 2014 Bill O'Brien confirmed for Houston Texans Job: http://www.nfl.com/news/story/0ap2000000307822/article/bill-obrien-agrees-to-be-houston-texans-head-coach. In related news, Teddy Bridgewater officially declared for the NFL Draft, making him the likely #1 pick. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MantaRay Posted January 1, 2014 Share Posted January 1, 2014 (edited) Costly and questionable move by Houston. Edited January 1, 2014 by MantaRay Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hi, I'm VALUE! Posted January 1, 2014 Author Share Posted January 1, 2014 Costly and questionable move by Houston. Care to quantify the "questionable" tag? Also of note: CBS Sports believes that Jim Schwartz will be the DC of Cleveland regardless of the head coach selected, and that Cleveland will not be retaining Norv Turner as OC. http://www.cbssports.com/nfl/writer/jason-la-canfora/24394009/cleveland-browns-want-to-interview-auburns-malzahn-vandys-franklin Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DH26 Posted January 2, 2014 Share Posted January 2, 2014 Care to quantify the "questionable" tag? Also of note: CBS Sports believes that Jim Schwartz will be the DC of Cleveland regardless of the head coach selected, and that Cleveland will not be retaining Norv Turner as OC. http://www.cbssports.com/nfl/writer/jason-la-canfora/24394009/cleveland-browns-want-to-interview-auburns-malzahn-vandys-franklin Well every Belichick tree head coach has been catastrophically awful. There's that Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Muevelos Posted January 2, 2014 Share Posted January 2, 2014 Lovie to Tampa! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MDPucks Posted January 2, 2014 Share Posted January 2, 2014 Well every Belichick tree head coach has been catastrophically awful. There's that Partial exception to that being Nick Sabain as a major college HC. The cross-pollination of coaches and front office staff now in the NFL and major NCAA football is so vast that you could argue that there are no coaching trees anymore. The press loved the whole angle of the Bill Walsh to Mike Holmgren "tree" angle because it was a cute easy story. In reality they were part of the Paul Brown tree which 9/10's of the entire NFL is related. Belichick is considered part of the Parcells's tree but is just as much a part of the Paul Brown tree as well. Its easier than 6 degrees of Kevin Bacon. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CRASHER Posted January 2, 2014 Share Posted January 2, 2014 CBS Sports believes that Jim Schwartz will be the DC of Cleveland regardless of the head coach selected, and that Cleveland will not be retaining Norv Turner as OC. http://www.cbssports.com/nfl/writer/jason-la-canfora/24394009/cleveland-browns-want-to-interview-auburns-malzahn-vandys-franklin And they complain about this in Dallas?? Who the hell wants to be a head coach when they can't pick their staff??? Shame, Schwartz is gonna ruin an on the cusp of being VERY good as a defensive unit.... Well every Belichick tree head coach has been catastrophically awful. There's that Wasn't Pete Carroll in that tree too? Lovie to Tampa! And every NFL Owner now has to add Dennis Green to their speed dial as the "obligatory black coach I gotta call and interview to fulfill the NFL's stupid Affirmative Action Policy" (it's a good fit in Tampa for him) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MantaRay Posted January 2, 2014 Share Posted January 2, 2014 Care to quantify the "questionable" tag? Also of note: CBS Sports believes that Jim Schwartz will be the DC of Cleveland regardless of the head coach selected, and that Cleveland will not be retaining Norv Turner as OC. http://www.cbssports.com/nfl/writer/jason-la-canfora/24394009/cleveland-browns-want-to-interview-auburns-malzahn-vandys-franklin First off he is a college coach, with no NFL HC experience, which is a pretty big risk right there. He was an NFL assistant coordinator and QB coach (like Kubiak and the failed Josh McDaniel) Also, from my understanding the Texans also have to pay Penn State $6 million just to get him out of his current contract I think the Texans could have benefited from a Defensive coach and hired a OC to run the offense. To me they just hired an inexperienced Kubiak part II Partial exception to that being Nick Sabain as a major college HC. The cross-pollination of coaches and front office staff now in the NFL and major NCAA football is so vast that you could argue that there are no coaching trees anymore. The press loved the whole angle of the Bill Walsh to Mike Holmgren "tree" angle because it was a cute easy story. In reality they were part of the Paul Brown tree which 9/10's of the entire NFL is related. Belichick is considered part of the Parcells's tree but is just as much a part of the Paul Brown tree as well. Its easier than 6 degrees of Kevin Bacon. Saban was a failure as an NFL coach. It's easier to be successful in college. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CRASHER Posted January 2, 2014 Share Posted January 2, 2014 Houston needs to fix their QB situation....DESPERATELY.... makes sense to bring in an offensive guy, especially with drafting a QB being painfully obvious I think you're also not taking into account the difficult and no-win situation that O'Brien got the job.....right off the Paterno/Sandusky saga.....Penn St was at an all-time low and people were thinking it would take years and years to rebuild the team's rep and be successful again....he went 15-9 in those two years.....that's pretty damned good....being able to overcome that level of circumstance HAS to be factored in also Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CRASHER Posted January 2, 2014 Share Posted January 2, 2014 In more madness...you can take Jay Cutler off the market... SEVEN YEARS he got The Bears announced that Cutler, who will turn 31 before next season, has been signed to a seven-year extension. The team also said guard Matt Slauson and cornerback Tim Jennings were signed to four-year extensions. Alex Marvez of Fox Sports reported that Cutler will make about $18 million in each of the first three years of the deal. http://sports.yahoo.com/blogs/nfl-shutdown-corner/chicago-bears-quarterback-jay-cutler-sign-him-seven-154934103--nfl.html And according to NFL Memes the Packers just clinched the next 7 NFC North Titles Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MantaRay Posted January 2, 2014 Share Posted January 2, 2014 Houston needs to fix their QB situation....DESPERATELY.... makes sense to bring in an offensive guy, especially with drafting a QB being painfully obvious I think you're also not taking into account the difficult and no-win situation that O'Brien got the job.....right off the Paterno/Sandusky saga.....Penn St was at an all-time low and people were thinking it would take years and years to rebuild the team's rep and be successful again....he went 15-9 in those two years.....that's pretty damned good....being able to overcome that level of circumstance HAS to be factored in also Again, the HC has more to worry about than the QB. Hire a good OC and share the responsibility. What you are suggesting is basically to go back to what got them there in the first place. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hi, I'm VALUE! Posted January 2, 2014 Author Share Posted January 2, 2014 And they complain about this in Dallas?? Who the hell wants to be a head coach when they can't pick their staff??? Shame, Schwartz is gonna ruin an on the cusp of being VERY good as a defensive unit.... Wasn't Pete Carroll in that tree too? And every NFL Owner now has to add Dennis Green to their speed dial as the "obligatory black coach I gotta call and interview to fulfill the NFL's stupid Affirmative Action Policy" (it's a good fit in Tampa for him) Jim Caldwell is on the interview circuit, he's going to fulfill the role of "Token" for the rest of the offseason methinks. He's already hit up the Lions and Redskins. What is the penalty if someone breaks the Rooney Rule anyway? First off he is a college coach, with no NFL HC experience, which is a pretty big risk right there. He was an NFL assistant coordinator and QB coach (like Kubiak and the failed Josh McDaniel) Also, from my understanding the Texans also have to pay Penn State $6 million just to get him out of his current contract Chip Kelly's done pretty well year 1 in Philly, Also, this is a team not a lot of people are talking about with regard to being one of the best coaching situations...I don't know the cap situation, and I don't know if the zone blocking linemen is going to screw up O'Brien year 1 (maybe, maybe not) but Houston was 11th in total yards this year with the QB trainwreck they had and 7th in total yards defensively (3rd against the pass). They got some incredibly bad breaks and turned the ball over too much; they find a QB that doesn't throw touchdowns to the other team and the Texans could turn it around in a hurry. In more madness...you can take Jay Cutler off the market... SEVEN YEARS he got The Bears announced that Cutler, who will turn 31 before next season, has been signed to a seven-year extension. The team also said guard Matt Slauson and cornerback Tim Jennings were signed to four-year extensions. Alex Marvez of Fox Sports reported that Cutler will make about $18 million in each of the first three years of the deal. http://sports.yahoo.com/blogs/nfl-shutdown-corner/chicago-bears-quarterback-jay-cutler-sign-him-seven-154934103--nfl.html And according to NFL Memes the Packers just clinched the next 7 NFC North Titles Wow...well, I can't fault Cutler, but seriously, Mark Trestman had that offense humming with 34 year old Josh McCown at QB...did Chicago really need to pay a premium for Jay like that? Michael Vick is smiling though, he still thinks he can start and that's one more competing QB off the market. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CRASHER Posted January 3, 2014 Share Posted January 3, 2014 Jim Caldwell is on the interview circuit, he's going to fulfill the role of "Token" for the rest of the offseason methinks. He's already hit up the Lions and Redskins. What is the penalty if someone breaks the Rooney Rule anyway? Chip Kelly's done pretty well year 1 in Philly, Also, this is a team not a lot of people are talking about with regard to being one of the best coaching situations...I don't know the cap situation, and I don't know if the zone blocking linemen is going to screw up O'Brien year 1 (maybe, maybe not) but Houston was 11th in total yards this year with the QB trainwreck they had and 7th in total yards defensively (3rd against the pass). They got some incredibly bad breaks and turned the ball over too much; they find a QB that doesn't throw touchdowns to the other team and the Texans could turn it around in a hurry. Wow...well, I can't fault Cutler, but seriously, Mark Trestman had that offense humming with 34 year old Josh McCown at QB...did Chicago really need to pay a premium for Jay like that? Michael Vick is smiling though, he still thinks he can start and that's one more competing QB off the market. ..... damn I forget about Caldwell......I think the penalty is a draft pick MORE SEVERE then the one they will take from the Steelers for the Tomlin incident, cause you know an owner/GM being biased with a team that their money and career hinge on is more serious then affecting actual play on the field right? For every Chip Kelly there's five Schiano's though (speaking of....with Gilbride out...he's in the running for the Giant OC job....PLEASE GOD YES!!!) Houston has the talent (aside of QB), and has anyone gone through as difficult a situation as O'Brien did in Penn State (maybe the Chiefs after the Belcher incident, but that was right before the season ended and everyone was fired).....being able to do well in that kinda scenario is a very good indicator....I stand behind that.... Franchise-type QB's don't grow on trees and McNown was too old to trust me thinks.....anyone still think Tony Romo is overpaid??? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Muevelos Posted January 4, 2014 Share Posted January 4, 2014 Titans fire their coach as well. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MadDog2020 Posted January 4, 2014 Share Posted January 4, 2014 Titans fire their coach as well. Paging Steve Ross... Paging Steve Ross... Where are you Mr. Ross? A decision on how to proceed would be nice... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Muevelos Posted January 4, 2014 Share Posted January 4, 2014 (edited) Double post Edited January 4, 2014 by CarterforPresident Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CRASHER Posted January 4, 2014 Share Posted January 4, 2014 Every team that lost to the Jaguars has now fired their coach.....I find that amusing Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MadDog2020 Posted January 4, 2014 Share Posted January 4, 2014 Every team that lost to the Jaguars has now fired their coach.....I find that amusing Lol that is pretty funny. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MantaRay Posted January 4, 2014 Share Posted January 4, 2014 Questionable move by the Titans considering the mess the owner made with that team. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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